Now I'm no psychologist, but to me, she acts like someone who was (emotionally?) abused as a child. Or something. Something drastic has happened in her life to make her act the way she does. More to be pitied I suppose.
Katie Hopkins. She doesn't like herself very much, does she
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She comes across as an indulged, spoilt brat, who believes she has the inherent right to do and say whatever she likes and get whatever she wants - no matter who she hurts. She deserves exactly the same amount of pity she shows to poor, fat, ginger, northern, SEN children, the families she has destroyed and all the others she is vicious about.
I think you're probably right, OP. She was probably raised not to show 'weakness' as that would be failure and she projects this onto those she targets. She might have had a financially comfortable upbringing with some indulgences but that doesn't exclude an individual from emotional abuse or, at the very least, lack of nurturing. Possibly had to put on all these layers of defence to prove she was worthy of her family. She wears her attitude like armour. Underneath is most likely a very vulnerable, needy and insecure person.
That's not psychobabble. It's just not healthy to thrive on negative feedback and be so touchy about receiving compliments, like she does, and it comes from somewhere.
That's not psychobabble. It's just not healthy to thrive on negative feedback and be so touchy about receiving compliments, like she does, and it comes from somewhere.
Originally Posted by Miss Con Strue:
“She comes across as an indulged, spoilt brat, who believes she has the inherent right to do and say whatever she likes and get whatever she wants - no matter who she hurts. She deserves exactly the same amount of pity she shows to poor, fat, ginger, northern, SEN children, the families she has destroyed and all the others she is vicious about.”
“She comes across as an indulged, spoilt brat, who believes she has the inherent right to do and say whatever she likes and get whatever she wants - no matter who she hurts. She deserves exactly the same amount of pity she shows to poor, fat, ginger, northern, SEN children, the families she has destroyed and all the others she is vicious about.”
Yes, there is that too.
But it's hardly normal behaviour for a supposedly mature woman really. She needs help, serious help.
She's basically telentless but craving a career in the entertainment industry, something she is desperately unsuited for. With no discernable skills in making people happy she's chosen to achieve this goal by being controversial, outspoken and a troll. It's quite sad, really.
She's a fascinating character. She has huge self doubt issues and hides behind her persona. Her crying because she doesn't know how to act to people being nice to her was a real giveaway.
Originally Posted by revolver44:
“She's basically telentless but craving a career in the entertainment industry, something she is desperately unsuited for. With no discernable skills in making people happy she's chosen to achieve this goal by being controversial, outspoken and a troll. It's quite sad, really.”
“She's basically telentless but craving a career in the entertainment industry, something she is desperately unsuited for. With no discernable skills in making people happy she's chosen to achieve this goal by being controversial, outspoken and a troll. It's quite sad, really.”
All true.
Ive been trying to piece together what makes this woman tick.. and read she was well liked at school, clever, good at music and a good speaker.. so what went wrong.... was it the epileptic fits she said she started taking at 20, her being put out the army because of an attack... surely even if things she does are an act, it must bother her.. shes hurt so many people... or maybe her illness takes the empathy part away...have a look at this..
http://emedicine.medscape.com/articl...view#aw2aab6b3
http://emedicine.medscape.com/articl...view#aw2aab6b3
It doesn't surprise me that she does not like herself. What is there to like? She is a horse faced nasty woman.
Originally Posted by dorydaryl:
“I think you're probably right, OP. She was probably raised not to show 'weakness' as that would be failure and she projects this onto those she targets. She might have had a financially comfortable upbringing with some indulgences but that doesn't exclude an individual from emotional abuse or, at the very least, lack of nurturing. Possibly had to put on all these layers of defence to prove she was worthy of her family. She wears her attitude like armour. Underneath is most likely a very vulnerable, needy and insecure person.
That's not psychobabble. It's just not healthy to thrive on negative feedback and be so touchy about receiving compliments, like she does, and it comes from somewhere.”
“I think you're probably right, OP. She was probably raised not to show 'weakness' as that would be failure and she projects this onto those she targets. She might have had a financially comfortable upbringing with some indulgences but that doesn't exclude an individual from emotional abuse or, at the very least, lack of nurturing. Possibly had to put on all these layers of defence to prove she was worthy of her family. She wears her attitude like armour. Underneath is most likely a very vulnerable, needy and insecure person.
That's not psychobabble. It's just not healthy to thrive on negative feedback and be so touchy about receiving compliments, like she does, and it comes from somewhere.”
I've thought this myself. She was at boarding school for all her school life and has also been to Sandhurst - all places where discipline would have been drummed into her. My mum had a similar background (not Sandhurst) but boarding school, parents who didn't show affection, left to fend for herself from a very young age, etc. and she comes across as very hard and doesn't suffer fools gladly but underneath the harsh exterior she has a heart of gold and would do anything to help anyone but doesn't like to show this side or show emotions. She is very similar to Katie H (although not quite so vocal) but you know exactly where you stand with her and she doesn't beat about the bush if she's got something to say. She doesn't do moping around and feeling sorry for herself and doesn't tolerate people that do, she's 84 and fell over and cracked her ribs and punctured a lung last year, didn't have any pain relief or even take any painkillers and felt she was taking up a hospital bed. She's like this due to her upbringing, her independence, her belief that you have to work for a living and you don't get ought for nought. She looks after herself by eating healthily and exercising regularly and I hope I have her balls and attitude to life when I'm her age.
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“She's a fascinating character. She has huge self doubt issues and hides behind her persona. Her crying because she doesn't know how to act to people being nice to her was a real giveaway.”
“She's a fascinating character. She has huge self doubt issues and hides behind her persona. Her crying because she doesn't know how to act to people being nice to her was a real giveaway.”
But I don't believe that's real, I believe that's a well rehearsed act. How many times has she reminded us she can't handle compliments - 37 times as Calum might say.
Originally Posted by Angelique_Dorma:
“Yes, there is that too. But it's hardly normal behaviour for a supposedly mature woman really. She needs help, serious help.”
“Yes, there is that too.
But it's hardly normal behaviour for a supposedly mature woman really. She needs help, serious help.”
U think she does too....
Originally Posted by revolver44:
“She's basically telentless but craving a career in the entertainment industry, something she is desperately unsuited for. With no discernable skills in making people happy she's chosen to achieve this goal by being controversial, outspoken and a troll. It's quite sad, really.”
“She's basically telentless but craving a career in the entertainment industry, something she is desperately unsuited for. With no discernable skills in making people happy she's chosen to achieve this goal by being controversial, outspoken and a troll. It's quite sad, really.”
Agree
What must she be like to live with, it must be unbearable in her house. Her poor husband and kids! Oh to be a fly on the wall.
Originally Posted by dorydaryl:
“I think you're probably right, OP. She was probably raised not to show 'weakness' as that would be failure and she projects this onto those she targets. She might have had a financially comfortable upbringing with some indulgences but that doesn't exclude an individual from emotional abuse or, at the very least, lack of nurturing. Possibly had to put on all these layers of defence to prove she was worthy of her family. She wears her attitude like armour. Underneath is most likely a very vulnerable, needy and insecure person.
That's not psychobabble. It's just not healthy to thrive on negative feedback and be so touchy about receiving compliments, like she does, and it comes from somewhere.”
“I think you're probably right, OP. She was probably raised not to show 'weakness' as that would be failure and she projects this onto those she targets. She might have had a financially comfortable upbringing with some indulgences but that doesn't exclude an individual from emotional abuse or, at the very least, lack of nurturing. Possibly had to put on all these layers of defence to prove she was worthy of her family. She wears her attitude like armour. Underneath is most likely a very vulnerable, needy and insecure person.
That's not psychobabble. It's just not healthy to thrive on negative feedback and be so touchy about receiving compliments, like she does, and it comes from somewhere.”
I tend to go for your take, I believe she's been damaged in some way, as bringing others down is a classic way to make you feel better about yourself.
Originally Posted by gavin shipman:
“She's a fascinating character. She has huge self doubt issues and hides behind her persona. Her crying because she doesn't know how to act to people being nice to her was a real giveaway.”
“She's a fascinating character. She has huge self doubt issues and hides behind her persona. Her crying because she doesn't know how to act to people being nice to her was a real giveaway.”
I don't find her fascinating, she's not at all complex but she is one dimensional otherwise other parts of her character would have become evident.
I think some people find it hard to accept that anyone can be full of negativity and are looking to excuse her behaviour.
Originally Posted by lynzee:
“It doesn't surprise me that she does not like herself. What is there to like? She is a horse faced nasty woman.”
“It doesn't surprise me that she does not like herself. What is there to like? She is a horse faced nasty woman.”
Don't you realise by making comments like that, you are showing that you are actually no better than her?
Originally Posted by Angelique_Dorma:
“What must she be like to live with, it must be unbearable in her house. Her poor husband and kids! Oh to be a fly on the wall.”
“What must she be like to live with, it must be unbearable in her house. Her poor husband and kids! Oh to be a fly on the wall.”
They're fine, she hardly interacts with them instead spending time on Twitter to spout her bile
Most people who become ill and eventually disabled try and help out with the community with volunteering and campaigning against ATOS etc.
Katie has chosen to make money from demeaning people. I do wonder with her public speaking ability what good she could have achieved with a sprinkling of empathy in her personality.
It is really sad, she put all that energy into staying slim (see her fat show) and being in total control of everything and looking down on nearly everyone.
Katie has chosen to make money from demeaning people. I do wonder with her public speaking ability what good she could have achieved with a sprinkling of empathy in her personality.
It is really sad, she put all that energy into staying slim (see her fat show) and being in total control of everything and looking down on nearly everyone.
Im not so sure now about her... it seems she was a lovely girl in her teens and well liked. so could these seizures have changed her.
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“I don't find her fascinating, she's not at all complex but she is one dimensional otherwise other parts of her character would have become evident.
I think some people find it hard to accept that anyone can be full of negativity and are looking to excuse her behaviour.”
“I don't find her fascinating, she's not at all complex but she is one dimensional otherwise other parts of her character would have become evident.
I think some people find it hard to accept that anyone can be full of negativity and are looking to excuse her behaviour.”
I agree. Too many people suffer horrendous abuse and go on to be kind, decent people. I do not think she has had an abusive childhood or is a complex, multi dimensional character. Is it so hard for some people to see, she is just not a very nice person.
Originally Posted by Flowes:
“I don't find her fascinating, she's not at all complex but she is one dimensional otherwise other parts of her character would have become evident.
I think some people find it hard to accept that anyone can be full of negativity and are looking to excuse her behaviour.”
“I don't find her fascinating, she's not at all complex but she is one dimensional otherwise other parts of her character would have become evident.
I think some people find it hard to accept that anyone can be full of negativity and are looking to excuse her behaviour.”
I hear you, and she is full of negativity, and I'm not looking to excuse her behaviour, but I believe she must have been emotionally damaged somewhere along the line and we don't know how deep that damage goes. I just have come to the view in life that no one is completely one dimensional. She certainly presents as one dimensional, but other facets must be there albeit buried deep, jmo.
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Im not so sure now about her... it seems she was a lovely girl in her teens and well liked. so could these seizures have changed her.”
“Im not so sure now about her... it seems she was a lovely girl in her teens and well liked. so could these seizures have changed her.”
there is that to consider, possible neurological changes? that is a possibility.
I think people hope that something turned her that way, but serial killers have different brains apparently from studies, so at some point you just have accept it.
Originally Posted by calamity:
“Ive been trying to piece together what makes this woman tick.. and read she was well liked at school, clever, good at music and a good speaker.. so what went wrong.... was it the epileptic fits she said she started taking at 20, her being put out the army because of an attack... surely even if things she does are an act, it must bother her.. shes hurt so many people... or maybe her illness takes the empathy part away...have a look at this..
http://emedicine.medscape.com/articl...view#aw2aab6b3”
“Ive been trying to piece together what makes this woman tick.. and read she was well liked at school, clever, good at music and a good speaker.. so what went wrong.... was it the epileptic fits she said she started taking at 20, her being put out the army because of an attack... surely even if things she does are an act, it must bother her.. shes hurt so many people... or maybe her illness takes the empathy part away...have a look at this..
http://emedicine.medscape.com/articl...view#aw2aab6b3”
I had to look twice at that as one of the academics quoted is called Perez!!
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