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Better Call Saul on Netflix - Discussion Thread
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Pyramidbread
17-02-2015
It's really finding its feet now,
Spoiler
who's betting Jimmy takes the Kettleman's money to set up as Saul
St_Jammy
17-02-2015
Does anyone know why Netflix show the "A Netflix Original" title card before the episodes I can't seem to find any info in their contribution to making it. I thought it might be because they are the only ones showing in the UK but then I saw you can watch them through xbox.
Pyramidbread
17-02-2015
Originally Posted by St_Jammy:
“Does anyone know why Netflix show the "A Netflix Original" title card before the episodes I can't seem to find any info in their contribution to making it. I thought it might be because they are the only ones showing in the UK but then I saw you can watch them through xbox.”

AMC call it an AMC original too, despite Sony making it, it's just a label I think. It's possible they both helped fund it.
MoreTears
18-02-2015
Originally Posted by Pyramidbread:
“AMC call it an AMC original too, despite Sony making it, it's just a label I think. It's possible they both helped fund it.”

But it actually is an AMC "original," as in they commissioned it. Sony can only make what a TV channel or web platform first commissions. Netflix only has rights to it in certain countries outside the US, and can't air any episodes until the day after they have been aired by AMC. Of course the episodes of any real "Netflix Original" would be released all at the same time.

But in fairness, I have to point out that this misuse of the term "original" is common in US TV. Any foreign imports shown in the US are inevitably promoted with the same word. It just means "This is the first time this has been legally shown in this market. It isn't a re-run."
damager
18-02-2015
Originally Posted by St_Jammy:
“Does anyone know why Netflix show the "A Netflix Original" title card before the episodes I can't seem to find any info in their contribution to making it. I thought it might be because they are the only ones showing in the UK but then I saw you can watch them through xbox.”

I've always viewed those intro-graphics as a way of NetFlix slightly delaying the opening sequences of their best content to allow most people with average or below bandwidths to have buffered enough to get the highest quality by the time the actual show starts.

Certainly for me, by the time the "A NetFlix Original" in all its blocky low resolution glory disappears, I'm left with a nice clean HD feed of what I wanted to watch in the first place.
Tom2023
19-02-2015
Originally Posted by Old Endeavour:
“How does DS help then get American TV shows at about the same time?

This used to be a place for public opinion not DS corporate influence.

And there are other ways of watching it at the same time or about 15 minutes after it has aired, as seen by the many "US pace" threads in the US TV shows forum.

It all just stinks of money buying opinion and influence on what use to be an unbiased un-affiliated forum. Seems to be a sell out now.”

No one needs to pay money to start threads and people are free to ignore the thread or criticize the show so what exactly are you up in arms about?
i4u
20-02-2015
Originally Posted by Sponsor: Netflix:
“Episode two is up on Netflix UK now!

We loved the first episode, though it wasn't quite what we were expecting. It's great seeing Jimmy 'before he was Saul'. Bob Odenkirk is a legend.

Now we just need to find time to watch episode two...”

Well you are hardly likely to say "we" hated it, your comment is as a 'sponsor' it would be a dumb corporate move to buy a product and then tell your customers it's rubbish.

Dare you say what programmes on Netflix they you hate or are utter rubbish and not worth watching and waste of subscription?
Sponsor: Netflix
24-02-2015
So the latest Better Call Saul episode is called 'Hero'. Does that mean things will be finally looking up for our crooked lawyer? What could possibly go wrong...?

Quote:
“Jimmy must face consequences when his relationships become strained.”

What did you think of today's episode?
cactus
24-02-2015
Enjoyed the 4th episode 'Hero' and I have a question about a key plot moment.

You can only answer if you have seen the episode so don't peek until you have seen it although I avoid any big detail.

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There is a moment in the the corridor of the courthouse after Saul phones around journalist contacts touting his "David and Goliath" story when a person in a red/orange shirt with large letters on the back walks past and clearly inspires Saul to his next idea.

Can someone explain that moment? I get the event that later unfolds, I am not sure how it relates to the passing shirt. Is it just the hi-vis colour = worker or the letters on the shirt?


Thanks
St_Jammy
24-02-2015
Originally Posted by cactus:
“Enjoyed the 4th episode 'Hero' and I have a question about a key plot moment.

You can only answer if you have seen the episode so don't peek until you have seen it although I avoid any big detail.

Spoiler
There is a moment in the the corridor of the courthouse after Saul phones around journalist contacts touting his "David and Goliath" story when a person in a red/orange shirt with large letters on the back walks past and clearly inspires Saul to his next idea.

Can someone explain that moment? I get the event that later unfolds, I am not sure how it relates to the passing shirt. Is it just the hi-vis colour = worker or the letters on the shirt?


Thanks”

Are you referring to the girl with the Orange top just before the scene changed? It was the local university's top. He figured that if the big press won't handle his story then the local university paper would.
cactus
24-02-2015
Originally Posted by St_Jammy:
“Are you referring to the girl with the Orange top just before the scene changed? It was the local university's top. He figured that if the big press won't handle his story then the local university paper would.”

Thanks, yes you are correct. Watched again and I now see UNM as the letters on the shirt. University of New Mexico. But in my mind that explains getting inspired to paying students $100 to get them to film the interview but now I wonder if the stunt part was always planned from the beginning even if conventional press did the story. In which case his cons are getting quite complex.
St_Jammy
24-02-2015
Originally Posted by cactus:
“Thanks, yes you are correct. Watched again and I now see UNM as the letters on the shirt. University of New Mexico. But in my mind that explains getting inspired to paying students $100 to get them to film the interview but now I wonder if the stunt part was always planned from the beginning even if conventional press did the story. In which case his cons are getting quite complex.”

Pretty sure it was always planned he just had to scale it back a bit. If it had been with a big paper it probably would guarantee national coverage with the uni paper he settled with a guarantee of local coverage.

Saul's a very clever guy it's just he has a lot going against him by trying to do things legit. As soon as he steps on the crooked path then rules go out the windows and the worlds open to him.
PaulJoseph22
24-02-2015
It's ok, not a patch on Breaking Bad though. That was an amazing series.
Sponsor: Netflix
25-02-2015
Originally Posted by PaulJoseph22:
“It's ok, not a patch on Breaking Bad though. That was an amazing series.”

Breaking Bad was a bit of a slow burner, so BCS might surprise you yet. Admittedly, Walt starts off in a far more horrible situation, so it gave BB that terrifying punch from the outset.

As fangirls and boys, we're loving the easter eggs and the way BCS is subtly building a bigger Breaking Bad universe.
JeffG1
25-02-2015
Originally Posted by Sponsor: Netflix:
“Breaking Bad was a bit of a slow burner, so BCS might surprise you yet. Admittedly, Walt starts off in a far more horrible situation, so it gave BB that terrifying punch from the outset..”

This just made me thankful for the NHS over here! What the Americans have to put up with

Similarly, Jimmy/Saul getting a huge bill for taking the skateboarders to casualty.
danielleh
25-02-2015
I'm really enjoying it so far, and I'm surprised as I was pretty indifferent to Saul as a character in Breaking Bad.

I'll ask this question in spoilers, just in case, but I think it's fine; nothing major will be given away!

Spoiler
Apologies if I've missed anything, but do we know why Chuck(I think that's his name?) - the man Saul brought the newspapers to, doesn't like or trust technology/light/the outside?
GOGO2
25-02-2015
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“I'm really enjoying it so far, and I'm surprised as I was pretty indifferent to Saul as a character in Breaking Bad.

I'll ask this question in spoilers, just in case, but I think it's fine; nothing major will be given away!

Spoiler
Apologies if I've missed anything, but do we know why Chuck(I think that's his name?) - the man Saul brought the newspapers to, doesn't like or trust technology/light/the outside?
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I'm assuming he's had a severe mental breakdown and probably needs sectioning. Saul obviously hasn't a clue what to do with him so goes along with the irrational rules. I'm guessing there's quite a lot of heartbreak to come, where his big brother's concerned...
JimothyD
25-02-2015
I loved the origin of the name 'Saul Goodman', revealed at the start of the episode:

"What's your name?"
-"Saul"
"Saul?"
-"Yeah, S'all good, man"

This rich style of writing for Breaking Bad and for BCS so far makes you wonder if that sort of thing was written years ago, or whether it's an idea they got after making up the name 'Saul Goodman'.

I really liked the character of Saul in Breaking Bad and I'm really liking this series so far, but I'm not going to compare it to BB, I'll judge it on its own merits. Breaking Bad is one of those landmark shows like The Sopranos and 24 - the formula is just perfect for their genre.
Gordie1
25-02-2015
Good episode 4, anyone else see chicken mans shirt when saul was buying a suit.
cactus
25-02-2015
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“I'm really enjoying it so far, and I'm surprised as I was pretty indifferent to Saul as a character in Breaking Bad.

I'll ask this question in spoilers, just in case, but I think it's fine; nothing major will be given away!

Spoiler
Apologies if I've missed anything, but do we know why Chuck(I think that's his name?) - the man Saul brought the newspapers to, doesn't like or trust technology/light/the outside?
”

Spoiler
I think that is one of those plot mysteries to be held back and answered in a flashback in a future episode. BTW, you say "the man he brought the newspapers to" we have in fact learned in S1E02 he is Saul's older brother which brings even more baggage to the mystery
CD93
25-02-2015
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“I'm really enjoying it so far, and I'm surprised as I was pretty indifferent to Saul as a character in Breaking Bad.

I'll ask this question in spoilers, just in case, but I think it's fine; nothing major will be given away!

Spoiler
Apologies if I've missed anything, but do we know why Chuck(I think that's his name?) - the man Saul brought the newspapers to, doesn't like or trust technology/light/the outside?
”

Spoiler
Electromagnetic hypersensitivity is worth a Google.
extralegs
25-02-2015
Originally Posted by cactus:
“Thanks, yes you are correct. Watched again and I now see UNM as the letters on the shirt. University of New Mexico. But in my mind that explains getting inspired to paying students $100 to get them to film the interview but now I wonder if the stunt part was always planned from the beginning even if conventional press did the story. In which case his cons are getting quite complex.”

Yep, of course you're correct here about the whole thing being a plan. All he needed was for the footage to be captured in some way... the billboard "dude's" tumble off the scaffold was always going to be part of the plan (right back to when he was copying the other lawyer's clothes/hair - Jimmy was already thinking that far ahead, he'd scoped the whole thing out), and the stunt was perfectly safe because of the harness. Avid local tabloid press fans en masse aren't going to ask questions about the safety of a harness when they read an exciting story about a hero lawyer doing an heroic rescue in their neighbourhood, Although it was a bit less safe for Jimmy himself, climbing that ladder, which took balls. But ultimately worth it, for the payoff. One grand, planned scheme! Hence opening the episode with the clever Rolex scam. An introduction to just how clever Jimmy is.

It didn't matter who shot the footage (which Jimmy realised when he saw the University top), the resulting drama would automatically spread the word, even in these pre-youtube days in which the show is set.

Jimmy is always a step ahead of the game... that's the message at this point in the series.

Side note - anyone else notice how the students ended up with an annoyingly badly-composed shot of Jimmy against that billboard!? Such a contrast to the brilliant cinematography I have come to expect from the series. I thought that was such a nuanced, subtle, brilliant touch. To me, Gilligan's verging on the genius here already. And it's early days!
danielleh
26-02-2015
Originally Posted by cactus:
“
Spoiler
I think that is one of those plot mysteries to be held back and answered in a flashback in a future episode. BTW, you say "the man he brought the newspapers to" we have in fact learned in S1E02 he is Saul's older brother which brings even more baggage to the mystery
”

Ah yes he is! Don't know how I managed to forget that!
Sez_babe
26-02-2015
This episode is my favourite so far. I love how intelligent Jimmy actually is - I never even thought that the billboard guy was in on it!
Amasis
26-02-2015
Absolutely loving the series so far. I would say almost enjoying it more than BB but while being similar it is also so different that I'll avoid comparisons. I have to say the writing is so brilliant that even knowing how sharp Jimmy is his schemes always surprise me and the two this week were just brilliantly executed. Bob Odenkirk is such an underrated talent. I love Mr Show and his comedic abilities were never in question but I'm so pleased to see him pulling off the lead in a drama so well.
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