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Old 11-02-2015, 17:08
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Chaim's evil is more to his with his extreme Israeli dad and weird mum than him being born that way. I am sure if Chaim was born to more sensible parents he would be a lot more friendly.

I too am not that interested in breeding, as I think the world full already.
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Old 11-02-2015, 18:00
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Chaim's evil is more to his with his extreme Israeli dad and weird mum than him being born that way. I am sure if Chaim was born to more sensible parents he would be a lot more friendly.

I too am not that interested in breeding, as I think the world full already.
What on earth has his dad's nationality/heritage got to do with anything? That's twice you've felt the need to mention it. Seriously, get a grip.

At the end of the day, the kid is only 4 years old and is used to getting his own way at home, and being able to intimidate other kids - and yes, he showed spoiled and bullying behaviour, which hopefully he can be taught to change.

And Skyla is used to attention and not used to socialising with other children - yet - although she was starting to by the end.

I believe that part of the reason for the programme was that the researchers were studying the impact of early years/pre-school education and demonstrating how important an impact it has in helping to socialise children. I'd agree with them on that.
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Old 11-02-2015, 18:53
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Chaim's evil is more to his with his extreme Israeli dad and weird mum than him being born that way. I am sure if Chaim was born to more sensible parents he would be a lot more friendly.

I too am not that interested in breeding, as I think the world full already.
Yep, the second time you've mentioned where his parents are from, clearly you're looking to provoke a reaction to your bigoted opinions.
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Old 11-02-2015, 19:03
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The FM also seemed to have a problem with West Indians.
Skyla just reminds me of the typical 3rd Gen Windrush kids I grew up with in London. Rude and nasty.
Thought Christian was 'sweet' so I'm guessing the FM has no problems with West Africans (I'm guessing their origins though).

I think the FM's just attention seeking/trolling.

Edit: Overall this could have been an amusing program about child development, but people take things far too seriously on DS with their predictions of doom and gloom.
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Old 11-02-2015, 19:43
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Chaim needs to be dumped in the middle of a desert somewhere.
Ok see now it is this kind of comment you can understand why that user Tamara posted what she did. You people are all a load of armchair experts on apparently what children are determined to turn into just because they were a bit of a pest as a FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD.
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Old 11-02-2015, 19:43
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Oh and that user Diamond calling a kid "evil". I mean what the hell is wrong with some of you?
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Old 11-02-2015, 19:57
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Am I the only one who noticed the unfortunate irony of Chaim's mother stating that her "husband idolizes him" and that "the icing on the cake was that he was a beautiful blonde haired blue eyed boy" .

I am perhaps making assumptions here but aren't Chaim and Moshe (the father) names of Jewish origin?

Anyhoo that child is in desperate need of some serious parental intervention. He is most definitely using his size to intimidate and bully the others. At the body boarding area he was pushing himself right into Luke's face; getting closer and closer until Luke had to turn away. For me that was extremely uncomfortable to watch, all the little guy had done was ask for a shot afterwards
His father's religion despises any 'goyim', not fit to shake their hands, they are treated with disdain and are disrespectful to any not of their culture/beliefs. Chaim has therefore no respect for any other race but his own, his father is atypical of that culture. Therefore - Chaim is destined to be a bully, and to think of himself as 'superior' forever.
Pathetic. If the parents are to integrate him into real equal society, he needs to be 're-educated' away from this 'superior' factor. As for now, he is a despicably spoiled young lad who will eventually be hoisted with his own petard! Madame will be knitting under his tumbril? Shape up folks - integrate or be disassociated!
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Old 11-02-2015, 20:01
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^^ Very true and it really comes across. Hopefully the embarrassment of the program will force a change in his parents.

Would have liked to see more Christian's parents. They seem to have produced the perfect citizen.
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Old 11-02-2015, 20:31
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Skyla's face when she was so conflicted about whether she should share or not.

Little Luke seemed like a lovely boy, would have liked to see more of him.
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Old 11-02-2015, 20:35
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I absolutely loved this docu

I work in a primary school albeit in KS2 but the KS1 teachers were saying these children were very articulate and sophisticated and they don't really reflect the children in Foundation in our school.
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Old 11-02-2015, 20:39
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Well I just want to say I've no idea about half the background and religious reasons people are putting up here (please let's not make this another religious debate thread) but I will say this. Chaim came across poorly, though the sorry card and bunny bit were cute. Skyla did as her parents expected, fake cried and acted bratty. This being said they're 4!!! I mean we got to see all the different types of 4 year olds. The ones we see as sweet trying to befriend skyla , who to her is seen as a pest. The one who's "the old man". The ones who are bossy. It's just 4 year olds.
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Old 11-02-2015, 20:54
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His father's religion despises any 'goyim', not fit to shake their hands, they are treated with disdain and are disrespectful to any not of their culture/beliefs. Chaim has therefore no respect for any other race but his own, his father is atypical of that culture. Therefore - Chaim is destined to be a bully, and to think of himself as 'superior' forever.
Pathetic. If the parents are to integrate him into real equal society, he needs to be 're-educated' away from this 'superior' factor. As for now, he is a despicably spoiled young lad who will eventually be hoisted with his own petard! Madame will be knitting under his tumbril? Shape up folks - integrate or be disassociated!
Lot of codswallop
I live in a muticultural area and we all get on
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Old 11-02-2015, 21:03
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Line of week on TV has to be
" stop calling this phone Richard , you're not the Dad '

Priceless
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Old 11-02-2015, 21:08
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Line of week on TV has to be
" stop calling this phone Richard , you're not the Dad '

Priceless
I know, I hide my eyes and blushed on behalf of the mother hahaha
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Old 11-02-2015, 21:23
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I know several people who were a pain at the age of 4 and are perfectly nice people now. But there isn't going to be film of them being annoying 4 year olds on YouTube for ever more.
For this reason I feel a little ill at ease about this programme, however well intentioned it may be. Some people would do anything to be "on telly".
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Old 11-02-2015, 22:19
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I loved this programme and all the little characters individuality.
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Old 12-02-2015, 00:21
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I would love to have seen more - shame it was just a one off.

Please can we follow the children like in 7-Up?

I would love to see how they all develop.
Yes I was thinking the same... Guess that takes a lot of commitment, arranging and consent.
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Old 12-02-2015, 00:29
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Am I the only person horrified by this discussion? The irony of a pack of adults jeering publicly at a four year old boy who wasn't capable of informed consent for appearing on this programme. A witch hunt of sneering bullies calling him vile names and branding him the bully. I think people need to look at themselves. This isn't Big Brother, it is a vulnerable child. You should be ashamed of yourselves. This whole thread needs to be deleted. It is a child protection issue. Wrong on every level.
Huh?? Don't beat about the bush...say what you really think! The only bullying behaviour I saw came from Chaim....think you may have the situation somewhat twisted.

I did not see the adults jeering publicly at Chaim - when? where? His parents put him forward...clearly doting on him. I think they must have had a shock seeing how HE bullied the other children. When he first snatched the toy from a child and was confronted about it (i.e. questioned about it, no jeering involved) he learnt something....the staff member said "did you ask them?" He clearly hadn't.

The occasion where he stole the chocolate from Skyla was when he applied this bit of knowledge, i.e. he asked if he could have some and - whilst she was dithering - took it anyway.
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Old 12-02-2015, 00:34
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Ok see now it is this kind of comment you can understand why that user Tamara posted what she did. You people are all a load of armchair experts on apparently what children are determined to turn into just because they were a bit of a pest as a FOUR YEAR OLD CHILD.
You pick the most derogatory post and generalise from that about us all? Poor and inaccurate perception.
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Old 12-02-2015, 00:36
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His father's religion despises any 'goyim', not fit to shake their hands, they are treated with disdain and are disrespectful to any not of their culture/beliefs. Chaim has therefore no respect for any other race but his own, his father is atypical of that culture. Therefore - Chaim is destined to be a bully, and to think of himself as 'superior' forever.
Pathetic. If the parents are to integrate him into real equal society, he needs to be 're-educated' away from this 'superior' factor. As for now, he is a despicably spoiled young lad who will eventually be hoisted with his own petard! Madame will be knitting under his tumbril? Shape up folks - integrate or be disassociated!
I don't see how your rationale applies to the situation of Chaim meeting other new kids....i.e. he didn't ask if they were Jewish or not did he?
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:17
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I have read all the posts on this show and just want to say that I thought the entire show was absolutely enchanting. I found the children totally adorable, a real credit to their parents. Chaim is only 4 and has no brothers or sisters to share toys with. He will learn as he goes along.
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:21
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I have read all the posts on this show and just want to say that I thought the entire show was absolutely enchanting. I found the children totally adorable, a real credit to their parents. Chaim is only 4 and has no brothers or sisters to share toys with. He will learn as he goes along.
He's got two sisters, one older a lot bigger than him and one younger, both boisterous according to his mother and they looked it from the 30 seconds or so of the VT we saw.
He's used to getting physical at home and used to getting it back from his siblings was my impression.
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Old 12-02-2015, 12:48
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Oh and that user Diamond calling a kid "evil". I mean what the hell is wrong with some of you?
Obviously never seen The Omen or Exorcist.
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Old 12-02-2015, 14:04
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Seen both. Chaim displayed a lot of total lack of empathy as the child in Omen, Damien Thorn.

Painful difference being for the ultra-liberals to digest, is that Damien's viciousness was the result of the 'devil,' Chaim's is clearly the result of his mum and dad. Also it is pretty obvious he was asked to make that card for Skyla.

I think the program was great, though I would have preferred to see more of Christian's parents. They have raised a very nice boy.
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Old 12-02-2015, 14:06
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Skylas disdain at the card made me laugh
" why is there a bunny in it ? "
" cos bunnies are your favourite animals "

Skyla shrugs and walks away
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