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Old 25-02-2015, 19:27
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As a Grandparent of children this age I am a bit horrified that people would let their children be filmed this way. Do it yourself if you want, that's your choice, but don't use your children.. Perhaps they needed the money as I assume they must have got paid something.

Having said that I just hope that my grandchildren never come across a child like Chaim, but unfortunately I expect they will. His parents must be so embarrassed at how horrible he was. Let's hope he and they have leaned from this experience.
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Old 06-04-2015, 19:22
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Bumpity bump repeated on Ch4 @ 19:30
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Old 06-04-2015, 19:33
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Chaim the chocolate theif
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Old 06-04-2015, 20:28
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I tuned in out of curiosity but was glued for the hour.

A very interesting, insightful & funny documentary.
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Old 06-04-2015, 20:53
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That was really nice the second time around especially as I didn't read the overwrought OTT posts from last time round.
They could have filled a good few hours of screentime with that if we'd focused on the less dominant children too.
I'm an old giffer watching kids play is just a joyous thing to behold, that includes the bad behaviour.
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Old 06-04-2015, 20:56
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Chaim the chocolate theif
I'd forgotten him stealing the chocolate, but it was worth it for Skyla's face contorting all over the shop as she struggled with the concept of sharing and emotional blackmail, cracking stuff
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Old 07-04-2015, 18:56
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I found this prog. fascinating the first time round and enjoyed watching it again. I loved the reasoning of 4 year olds, I'd love to watch another like this with a different set of children. I do wonder how obvious the camera is though. Occasionally a child would react to the camera, but mostly they seemed unaware of it.
I found each of the children interesting in their own way, but loved watching Skyla dealing with conflicting emotions.
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Old 07-04-2015, 21:15
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watching kids play is just a joyous thing
I agree, it's just a bloody shame how you can no longer do this in the world without everyone thinking you're a paedophile.

I keep forgetting about this series so I'll try and catch up, it sounds fascinating.
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Old 07-04-2015, 21:50
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I agree, it's just a bloody shame how you can no longer do this in the world without everyone thinking you're a paedophile.

I keep forgetting about this series so I'll try and catch up, it sounds fascinating.
Shame it wasn't a series, must be hours of footage on the cutting room floor.
Missed today's, on again 4 Seven, 20:00 Friday and Sunday.
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Four-year-old Skyla has a remarkably expressive face. You can see every agonising detail of her inner conflict as she decides whether or not to share some chocolate with her nursery friends.
I don't think Skyla had friends at that stage only acquaintances
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Old 07-04-2015, 22:25
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I thought it was wonderful. I have a three year old and he acts like all of the children at various points throughout the day, he can be a diva, he can be a bit of a bully, sometimes he won't share and he'll try and pinch something, other times he will share beautifully and ask, he can be beautifully loving and kind and is a clever little so and so. It helped to confirm to me that his development and behaviour is perfectly normal.

He goes to nursery and I would love to be a fly on the wall when he's there. He seems like a very popular little boy and has lots of friends, I'd love to see how he interacts with them
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Old 08-04-2015, 01:19
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Series is returning for a 7 parter apparently, using 5 and 6 year olds.
3.5 Million punters tuned in to this, one off.
Hope they focus on all the kids next time, not just the big characters.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:00
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I hope Chaims parents watched this and saw what overindulgance and not saying no now and again can do to a child.
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Old 08-04-2015, 09:55
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I hope Chaims parents watched this and saw what overindulgance and not saying no now and again can do to a child.
I daresay they have learnt from this programme. Also I saw Chaim modify his behaviour during the programme, i.e. from just taking a toy away to ASKING if he could have some chocolate first (before snatching it anyway)....a work in progress! At least he is learning what is considered acceptable behaviour.
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Old 08-04-2015, 10:35
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I hope Chaims parents watched this and saw what overindulgance and not saying no now and again can do to a child.
Always time for finger waving and tutting on DS.
I was nice to read a bit of balance on this thread though.

Observations from a Nursery Nurse/Early Years Worker of 23 years...

Children all develop at different rates and their behaviour on starting nursery at 3 reflects that, their previous experience of social settings and parenting skills. Children do not have inbuilt social skills, they have to be learned and as attending nursery is often their first experience of a social setting, this is where they learn. You cannot write off a child for not yet having reached that stage of development. At home you can teach a child to rote learn the alphabet as a toddler but you cannot teach social interaction with a peer group until the child is in that type of environment. You cannot force maturation. It just happens.

Every nursery has lots of Chaims and worse. Some of our 3 year olds are like wild animals when they start but within 6 months you see a huge difference. By the time they go to school the vast majority are able to take turns, share and have a good understanding of rules and boundries.

Staff do not expect children to start nursery as perfect little citizens. Unfortunately lots of parents do. Preschoolers don't really have a concept of bullying. It's an adult term that kids pick up from parents who are far too quick to use that term any time a kid looks at their child the wrong way. Bullying is the systematic targeting of a child, knowing they can get what they want through bullying and intimidation, feeling a sense of power and getting a kick from that. Again at preschool age, they're just learning social skills. 'See toy, want toy, snatch toy' is simply an impulsive action, entirely different to a premeditated "I'm going to intimidate this kid into giving me his lunch money."

Christian is fantastic. Loved him! I noticed he has some Aspie tendencies, it would be interesting to see him in 5 years time.
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Old 08-04-2015, 12:39
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Christian stood out as a boy that had already instilled morals. It was no surprise to hear that he wants to be a policeman.
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:15
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Anyone watching the new series?
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:19
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I love watching these types of program, no scripting, no plots, just kids being kids, some of the stuff they say makes me laugh, especially when they aren't aware of the camera's
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:25
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"Chop, chop, gu-rl"

Her mother's mini-me?
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:26
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I love watching these types of program, no scripting, no plots, just kids being kids, some of the stuff they say makes me laugh, especially when they aren't aware of the camera's
I agree, their comments can be very funny.
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:29
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"Chop, chop, gu-rl"

Her mother's mini-me?
The three girls made me laugh, their grasp of communication is impressive for 4 year olds
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:29
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Tia trying to convince everyone to lie for her and then using blackmail.
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:30
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She's going to tell Santa & the tooth fairy.
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:33
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Tia trying to convince everyone to lie for her and then using blackmail.
She's a proper little madam
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:36
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you rarely get to see kids communicating with each other like this, its amazing to see even at 4 years old , they are trying to manipulate each other , its just done in a very basic but to the point way

All we do as adults is use our communication better
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Old 03-11-2015, 20:37
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She's a proper little madam
Imagine what she'll be like in 10 years time.
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