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Old 11-02-2015, 10:18
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This may be of interest to some of you, reports have suggested people on networks that previously did not allow iOS 8 users to have access to the 2G/3G/4G selection tool are now showing this tool available when people update to 8.3 beta. Now it could just be a bug on Apple's part but I'm hopeful they have decided to stop the networks having control over this via carrier settings.

It would be extremely helpful for me to force 2G in certain locations where the 3G/4G signal is weak but my iPhone insists on hanging onto it draining the battery.
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Old 11-02-2015, 10:55
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It's likely because it's not had a carrier update released.. I doubt when released that we will have the choice.
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Old 12-02-2015, 04:03
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i am a bit lost. on my 6+ i can select 3g, 4g or turn it off. Although i cannot select 4g without putting on mobile data.

When i turn both off i believe i am on 2g. What am i missing here?
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Old 12-02-2015, 09:45
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i am a bit lost. on my 6+ i can select 3g, 4g or turn it off. Although i cannot select 4g without putting on mobile data.

When i turn both off i believe i am on 2g. What am i missing here?
This is the menu I was referring to: https://idroid.us/wp-content/uploads...gs-feature.jpg

It is currently not available on any UK networks that have carrier bundles. If you're on a MVNO (such as giffgaff) I believe it does appear.
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Old 12-02-2015, 10:04
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It's all a bit complicated. Why not have those checkboxes always enabled or have a combo with highest speed to use. A phone will try and if lets say 4G is not possible, because it's not in the data plan, it tells phone to sod off and makes it use a lower speed.
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Old 12-02-2015, 10:15
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i am a bit lost. on my 6+ i can select 3g, 4g or turn it off. Although i cannot select 4g without putting on mobile data.

When i turn both off i believe i am on 2g. What am i missing here?
Nope. When you turn mobile data off your phone is still connected to 3G. iPhones use the "GPRS/3G/4G" indicator to just show there is a data connection available. You cannot manually toggle an iPhone 5/6 to 2G only.
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:25
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Nope. When you turn mobile data off your phone is still connected to 3G. iPhones use the "GPRS/3G/4G" indicator to just show there is a data connection available. You cannot manually toggle an iPhone 5/6 to 2G only.
but when i turn of the 3g, i cannot browse the web nor do anything.
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Old 12-02-2015, 11:47
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but when i turn of the 3g, i cannot browse the web nor do anything.
Yes that's right. You'll still be connected to the 3G network though as that supports voice and text as well as data.
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Old 12-02-2015, 16:20
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Not sure why you'd want to stick on 4G without data on.. It can't do anything without data on 4G hence it dropping to 3G as it does Voice & Data.
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Old 12-02-2015, 16:28
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I have an iPhone 5. On iOS 8. It has the option to select 2G, 3G or 4G.

My cousins iPhone 6 on the same network and same iOS only has 3G and 4G. No 2G option.
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Old 12-02-2015, 17:16
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This will be a good thing to see. Why Apple (currently) leave it down to the carrier is bizarre.
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Old 12-02-2015, 17:19
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Yes that's right. You'll still be connected to the 3G network though as that supports voice and text as well as data.
Which a total pain in Wrexham atm as the 3G network on EE is overloaded and you can't make/rec calls and get texts about 5 hours later. Being able to have 2G only would solve this for me
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Old 12-02-2015, 18:24
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This will be a good thing to see. Why Apple (currently) leave it down to the carrier is bizarre.
Apple's support document makes it clear the decision is down to if 4G/LTE is available. A colleague at work gets the menu on a Vodafone iPhone 5 but on my Vodafone iPhone 5s I don't get the menu. That's apparently because the 5 won't support LTE on Vodafone, but the 5s will.

Its insane, and must be something the US carriers asked for, and really good if Apple fixes this properly in 8.1.3.

http://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203124
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Old 12-02-2015, 18:36
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Which a total pain in Wrexham atm as the 3G network on EE is overloaded and you can't make/rec calls and get texts about 5 hours later. Being able to have 2G only would solve this for me
This is the exact reason I left EE. I couldn't make or receive a call at home and calls constantly dropped at work.
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Old 12-02-2015, 19:38
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i am a bit lost. on my 6+ i can select 3g, 4g or turn it off. Although i cannot select 4g without putting on mobile data.
That because 4G is currently only for mobile data.
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Old 12-02-2015, 21:04
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ok thanks for all the helpful replies
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