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Katie H and her Epilepsy.
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nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Cat-:
“I'll never be a wall flower and always say what I think.

And here it is:

KH was always staged to be propelled as some kind of talking point via CBB..............win or not.

There you go. Am I right? ”

yup.
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Cat-:
“i want to know WHY? ”

what do yo want to know?
Cat-
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by nitpikkin2:
“yup. ”

Good.

Why?
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Cat-:
“Good.

Why?”

why what?

by the way trying to avoid all the qualities you hate and which you discovered here on CBB is not a free pass. That's the lesson.
acid rain
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dave_62:
“One things for certain, epileptics can't drive. I wonder if she puts her taxi fares in to be offset against her taxes?”


Really? Well my dad drives.
acid rain
15-02-2015
My dad has epilepsy and he acts nothing like her.
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
phwoar. telling it like it is.
bbcrzy
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“I moaned about the overuse of the word 'ignorant' earlier, but I don't think i've seen a post that it really applies to more than that one.

Katie Hopkins DOES take medication for her epilepsy.

"I take loads of medication but there comes a point where it doesn’t get rid of it altogether."


So, you've completely made up the entire basis of your argument, which is pretty bad and really isn't a good look for you.”

wrong, I'm speaking as someone who Doesnt know what exact meds she is taking. You are the one who is ignorant as you arent aware of her exact meds either yet are suggesting you know better then us.

That quote , where ever you got it from, suggests she has tried meds, and has decided they dont work for her.

my point is that she has a brain Disorder that has a SIDE EFFECT of epilepsy. this thread is full of people discussing apples in general when in this case, grannie smith is wayyyyyy different then Red Delicious.


KH has a Missing PART of a brain. Epilepsy in most others is the actual condition. IN KH's case it is a symptom of her missing bit.

if she takes loads of ANTI EPILEPTIC meds, where is her weight gain? where are the other side effects, the grogginess etc.

i suggest she takes meds or HAS tried meds.

either way, this is a thread in which NON medically trained people are debating issues they have no experience in.

I do.
bbcrzy
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“Really? You want to take a complex issue concerning how epilepsy may or may not cause a predisposition to any number of personality traits, ... and call it "Brain Damage"?

Nice, Very classy. ”

KH has a damaged brain. she told us on Daily show that she is missing part of her brain.

EVEN if she didnt have epilepsy, she is still considered Brain Damaged.

the TRUE focus of this thread is making some Lame connection between personality and epilepsy. INSTEAD, I saw that list as Common side effects to many Anti epileptic meds.

IF a person is lucky enough to be on the perfect med for their issue, some of the traits do NOT APPLY.

for instance TEgretol...
feeling sad or empty
headache (continuing)
increase in seizures
irritability
lack of appetite
loss of balance control
loss of interest or pleasure


sense of detachment from self or body

sudden, wide mood swings
talking, feeling, and acting with excitement
trouble sleeping
twisting movements of the body
uncontrolled movements, especially of the face, neck, and back
unusual drowsiness
bbcrzy
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“Really? Well my dad drives.”

in canada you are banned from driving until you are Seizure FREE for YEARS!

KH claims to have them every night.

BTW that link to KH talking about her epilepsy proved my previous post CORRECT... snip Katie was put on medication to control the seizures but she hated the side effects of nausea and dizziness so stopped taking them.

'I didn't realise epilepsy treatment is not an exact science and it takes experimentation to find the right dose, but I decided just to live with it and carry on with all the lies.'


the article sure makes it clear KH has no problems with compulsive lying even in dangerous situations. I realize she was much younger, but still
Olivia024
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“*sigh* Not every epileptic has "brain damage caused by seizures" - although Brain Damage can be caused by seizures.

Also, Epilepsy CAN be caused BY brain damage. BUT that doesn't mean Epilepsy=brain damage - its possible for an epileptic to have seizures WITHOUT ever having had brain damage, and not cause any further damage either.

Epilepsy DOES NOT = Brain damage

Is there an Ignore/Block button on this forum?”

Click on that person's name and go into their profile. There you will find an option to ignore all posts by that username. Sometimes it's the best option for your own sanity. Good luck!
Matt_Maher
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“wrong, I'm speaking as someone who Doesnt know what exact meds she is taking. You are the one who is ignorant as you arent aware of her exact meds either yet are suggesting you know better then us.

That quote , where ever you got it from, suggests she has tried meds, and has decided they dont work for her.”


Do I really need to quote what you clearly said?
Hmm, ok:

Well, i think KH is very aware of her issue. I'd like to know why she is choosing not to be on medication and why she feels having severe shoulder disconnecting seizures is 'better' for her.

considering the impairment and calming effect of epilepsy meds, including a side of lack of focus and effect of weight gain, i think KH chooses not to treat her brain injury.



1. You've clearly said she is choosing not to take medication. Don't pretend you just said you were unsure what meds she was taking when you very clearly said she was not taking meds.

2. You've clearly said she is choosing not to treat her brain injury.


Both completely false, both completely wrong and both completely made up in your own mind in order to fuel your attack on her.

Below is even more information on it. So please stop making things up and at least make a little bit of effort to research before accusing someone of something which is just in your own mind.


To suppress the absences and convulsions she was put on medication that has been constantly reviewed over the years as doctors try out new drugs and dosage levels.
She currently takes medication twice a day and has a stash in every handbag, gym kit and briefcase and makes sure it is the first thing she packs on business trips or holidays.
The side effects such as mouth ulcers, sleepiness and headaches, she says, are worth it to lead as normal a life as possible.
But while daytime seizures have mostly been under control for the past nine years, she has suffered sleep seizures which occur as she falls into and emerges from a deep sleep.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/ar...#ixzz3RnCcHbS6
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by bbcrzy:
“either way, this is a thread in which NON medically trained people are debating issues they have no experience in.

I do.”

Preach!

I love the way her supporters are attaching themselves to every ignorant thing she says like barnacles. It doesn't even need to be common sense. If it's nasty bigotry and racism - they're there. Clinging on like idiots.
calamity
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“My dad has epilepsy and he acts nothing like her.”

I agree, shes a bit of an insult to others who have this..
bootyache
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by acid rain:
“My dad has epilepsy and he acts nothing like her.”


I have posted in here that this thread is basically shocking.

No doubt everyone who suffers epilepsy is different, but to infer that those who do could or would behave like KH is grossly unfair.
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by bootyache:
“I have posted in here that this thread is basically shocking.

No doubt everyone who suffers epilepsy is different, but to infer that those who do could or would behave like KH is grossly unfair.”

the same is true in the message to Hopkins thread on suicide. The good thing about threads like this is they do raise awareness even if they shock
Matt_Maher
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by bootyache:
“I have posted in here that this thread is basically shocking.

No doubt everyone who suffers epilepsy is different, but to infer that those who do could or would behave like KH is grossly unfair.”


Essentially the only reason it's gone on is because the people who dislike KH want to more or less suggest that she is brain damaged because of epilepsy.

Not only is that a ridiculous thing to suggest but it's pretty damn vile and offensive too.
Helenbemerry
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by nitpikkin2:
“Preach!

I love the way her supporters are attaching themselves to every ignorant thing she says like barnacles. It doesn't even need to be common sense. If it's nasty bigotry and racism - they're there. Clinging on like idiots.”

Much the same as her non-supporters do - bringing up the same things over and over again and feigning shock each time even though they had the same discussion yesterday, the day before yesterday, last week, etc. It seems to be her non-supporters still filling the forums and talking about her even though CBB finished over a week ago so you have to ask yourself who are the idiots still clinging on!
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“Much the same as her non-supporters do - bringing up the same things over and over again and feigning shock each time even though they had the same discussion yesterday, the day before yesterday, last week, etc. It seems to be her non-supporters still filling the forums and talking about her even though CBB finished over a week ago so you have to ask yourself who are the idiots still clinging on!”

so explain your presence here then? Some of us are here because we're genuinely interested in the things the show raises and we're thrashing that out. Nota Bene: both supporters and detractors.
postit
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Helenbemerry:
“Much the same as her non-supporters do - bringing up the same things over and over again and feigning shock each time even though they had the same discussion yesterday, the day before yesterday, last week, etc. It seems to be her non-supporters still filling the forums and talking about her even though CBB finished over a week ago so you have to ask yourself who are the idiots still clinging on!”

Ah but you have to admit, she is the gift that keeps on giving, with her daily tweets.
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Essentially the only reason it's gone on is because the people who dislike KH want to more or less suggest that she is brain damaged because of epilepsy.

Not only is that a ridiculous thing to suggest but it's pretty damn vile and offensive too.”

rubbish. I have never made that claim and I have also argued it's a dead end yet here I am.
Dr Z
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Essentially the only reason it's gone on is because the people who dislike KH want to more or less suggest ......”

I am one of the biggest KH fans on here. I started this thread to discuss the possibility that Katie's epilepsy had contributed to her robust character, as I feel that some of her character traits seemed to fit with some of those theorised. I did not mean this in a derogatory manner, Its was simply a point of interest.

It took a funny turn because I stupidly linked to an article which listed many theorised personality traits, and a lot on here couldn't understand and were more interested in the article iself, which was about a debunking an "epileptic personality"

Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“.....that she is brain damaged because of epilepsy.Not only is that a ridiculous thing to suggest but it's pretty damn vile and offensive too.”

I strongly agree, and if you look back you'll see I've tried to argue this point, and got accused of "personal attack" for my trouble.
nitpikkin2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Dr Z:
“I am one of the biggest KH fans on here. I started this thread to discuss the possibility that Katie's epilepsy had contributed to her robust character, as I feel that some of her character traits seemed to fit with some of those theorised. I did not mean this in a derogatory manner, Its was simply a point of interest.



I strongly agree, and if you look back you'll see I've tried to argue this point, and got accused of "personal attack" for my trouble.”

Hypocrite.
Helenbemerry
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by nitpikkin2:
“so explain your presence here then? Some of us are here because we're genuinely interested in the things the show raises and we're thrashing that out. Nota Bene: both supporters and detractors.”

I'm here because I AM genuinely interested in the things the show raises and the way people react to it. You were not thrashing out the issues from the show, you were calling people that support KH idiots - because their views may not be the same as yours, doesn't mean they're idiots. Do you feel you are superior to everyone else and only your views count?
Dr Z
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by nitpikkin2:
“Hypocrite.”


Now THERE"S an unsubstantiated personal attack! Care to explain?
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