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Old 14-02-2015, 17:41
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With Nick dying, are they positioning Dean to be his successor?

- Looks like Dean may have kids all over the place. Does he not know about contraception? He may have fathered Linda's baby and has fathered one with Shabnam. Hope he's not the father of Lauren's.
- Hes becoming evil or at least very twisted. He spiked Stacey's drink, went to prison for trying to frame someone, raped Linda and there's probably more to come next week.
- His mum defends him in spite of this.

Wouldn't be surprised if he's on drugs.

Hes clearly not a carbon copy. He's not the psychopath that Nick is and has many redeeming features that endear him to other characters.
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Old 14-02-2015, 17:46
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I read "Is Dean the new Mick" ! !
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Old 14-02-2015, 17:56
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I have observed some very interesting parallels between both situations. Both men have blamed their mums for how they turned out (Nick doing it just yesterday).

The difference is that Dot has been a much bigger mug towards her son than Shirley has towards Dean. Shirl's strongly doubting his innocence. The reason she defends him is because of her ego and wanting to be validated as the mother she failed to be. Not to mention that she has this irrational hatred for Linda. With Dot, it's her Christian faith that has constantly led her to see good in Nick. She's a good human being, but Nick has always been a blind spot which she refuses to properly condemn. Looks like she is finally coming around to seeing the evil inside of him that everyone else has. This is despite knowing what he did to Eddie Royle and how he cut the brakes on Mark Fowler's bike and it led to Ashley's death.

I strongly doubt that Lauren is carrying Dean's baby. That would be ridiculous Bryan Kirkwood levels of writing. Think he has only fathered Shabnam's baby.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:14
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Hopefully Dean will survive live week. I have no idea where DTC is planning to go with Dean but hopefully it will be exciting and well-written.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:19
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Dean lacks Nick's peculiar (very peculiar) charm. I wouldn't want to see him back again, if he survives this week. But if he does I suspect that he will become an occasional regular, like Nick.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:37
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Dean is not evil. Spiking Stacey's drink and lying about Sean was silly and childish. He confessed to both, getting off with a warning for the first and serving prison time for the second.

While raping Linda was an evil action which cannot be condoned, excused or justified, it does not make him an evil person, besides which that is so far his only evil action. Nick has been guilty of many evil actions. Also Nick doesn't love anyone. Dean loves Stan, Denise and even Shirley to some extent and I'm sure he had genuine feelings for Stacey and cared about Lily when he was dating Stacey.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:38
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Dean lacks Nick's peculiar (very peculiar) charm. I wouldn't want to see him back again, if he survives this week. But if he does I suspect that he will become an occasional regular, like Nick.
Nick is charming?
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:38
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Hopefully Dean will survive live week. I have no idea where DTC is planning to go with Dean but hopefully it will be exciting and well-written.
I agree.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:39
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I read "Is Dean the new Mick" ! !
So did I.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:40
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Dean is not evil. Spiking Stacey's drink and lying about Sean was silly and childish. He confessed to both, getting off with a warning for the first and serving prison time for the second.

While raping Linda was an evil action which cannot be condoned, excused or justified, it does not make him an evil person, besides which that is so far his only evil action. Nick has been guilty of many evil actions. Also Nick doesn't love anyone. Dean loves Stan, Denise and even Shirley to some extent and I'm sure he had genuine feelings for Stacey and cared about Lily when he was dating Stacey.
I agree.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:46
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:50
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If anything I think Richard Blackwoods character will be the new big villain on the square.
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Old 14-02-2015, 18:51
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Hopefully Dean does not stay around as long as Nick did. Dean needs to be severely punished for what he did to Linda. Who cares whether he is evil or not? He is a rapist.
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Old 14-02-2015, 19:09
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Dean is not evil. Spiking Stacey's drink and lying about Sean was silly and childish. He confessed to both, getting off with a warning for the first and serving prison time for the second.

While raping Linda was an evil action which cannot be condoned, excused or justified, it does not make him an evil person, besides which that is so far his only evil action. Nick has been guilty of many evil actions. Also Nick doesn't love anyone. Dean loves Stan, Denise and even Shirley to some extent and I'm sure he had genuine feelings for Stacey and cared about Lily when he was dating Stacey.
He's not a carbon copy E.g can be endering and is a little immature at times. However, he does seem to be a little twisted.
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:05
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Nick wasn't a rapist though. It would be too upsetting for too many people to see a rapist appearing in the Square every now and then to cause trouble.
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:07
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Nick wasn't a rapist though. It would be too upsetting for too many people to see a rapist appearing in the Square every now and then to cause trouble.
Nick may not have been a rapist but he was far worse than Dean imo. That being said, I accept that Dean eventually has to leave in one way or another due to the nature of the crime he committed whereas in Nick's case I didn't care whether he stayed or left.
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:10
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I'm pretty convinced Dean will die on Friday and it can't come soon enough!
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:13
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Nick wasn't a rapist though. It would be too upsetting for too many people to see a rapist appearing in the Square every now and then to cause trouble.
But he was still a remorseless killer. Murdered two men and is responsible for the deaths of two others, including one of his sons. He barely said a word about Ashley and yesterday believed Emma was "asking for it" because she was a copper.

Plus on Thursday he said he hoped Ronnie would rot in hell or something.
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:15
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I said "very peculiar". Yes. People really enjoyed him turning up.

I just don't think they'd feel the same about Dean. He's a lukewarm sort of villain, doesn't have any relish for it.

It's not a matter of who is worse. Nick was in most ways, but he had some style with it. Dean lies to himself.

Seems strange having to use the past tense for Nick.
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:21
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But he is still a remorseless killer. Murdered two men and is responsible for the deaths of two others, including one of his sons. He barely said a word about Ashley and yesterday believed Emma was "asking for it" because she was a copper.

Plus on Thursday he said he hoped Ronnie would rot in hell or something.
Nick is far worse than Dean but the fact he's a panto caricature and has lengthy absenses from the screen lessons the impression.
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Old 14-02-2015, 20:27
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But he was still a remorseless killer. Murdered two men and is responsible for the deaths of two others, including one of his sons. He barely said a word about Ashley and yesterday believed Emma was "asking for it" because she was a copper.

Plus on Thursday he said he hoped Ronnie would rot in hell or something.
I agree.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:07
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Dean is not evil. Spiking Stacey's drink and lying about Sean was silly and childish. He confessed to both, getting off with a warning for the first and serving prison time for the second.

While raping Linda was an evil action which cannot be condoned, excused or justified, it does not make him an evil person, besides which that is so far his only evil action. Nick has been guilty of many evil actions. Also Nick doesn't love anyone. Dean loves Stan, Denise and even Shirley to some extent and I'm sure he had genuine feelings for Stacey and cared about Lily when he was dating Stacey.
He's certainly not good though, is he?
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:19
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My point was that Dean may be on a downhill path and could become more twisted but written in such a way as to split the audience rather than being an all out panto baddie.
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Old 16-02-2015, 11:26
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But he was still a remorseless killer. Murdered two men and is responsible for the deaths of two others, including one of his sons. He barely said a word about Ashley and yesterday believed Emma was "asking for it" because she was a copper.

Plus on Thursday he said he hoped Ronnie would rot in hell or something.
But besides Emma, all those victims were men so people don't care. Suddenly one "rape" is worse than one murders. It's really perception, or double standards in this community (however you want to perceive it).
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Old 19-02-2015, 22:57
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But besides Emma, all those victims were men so people don't care. Suddenly one "rape" is worse than one murders. It's really perception, or double standards in this community (however you want to perceive it).
You're still claiming it was "rape"? Despite what you say, it was rape. No stupid quotation marks. Dean raped Linda after she begged him not to. Which part of that was consensual to you?
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