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Old 15-02-2015, 09:02
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‘At the end of the day it’s all about relevance. It’s natural that as an artist gets older their audience goes elsewhere and Radio 1 has to reflect that.

‘The station has a duty to meet the needs of younger listeners. I don’t think the audience is losing sleep that it is not playing Madonna in the same way that it used to.’

Not like radio 1 to be patronising lol and think it knows everything.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...listeners.html
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:07
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I haven't enjoyed any of her output for years now, and she's a bit long in the tooth.
If they won't play Status Quo or Cliff Richard then I can see their point.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:15
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Myopic decision as always by Radio 1, not that I really listen to the station. I would struggle to think of anyone I know that doesn't listen to at least some older music as well as new stuff. To properly cater to the audience, Radio 1 should have a mixture.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:16
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The hypocrisy of the BBC. The biggest stalwarts of Pol;itical COrrectness have no issue with "ageism".

Disgusting.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:21
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It's stupid really to call Madonna no longer relevant...as the vast majority of female pop singers copy & imitate her, things she did many years ago.

But it's Radio 1 a station that appeals to a certain demographic...something I am sure Madonna fans no longer care about...like the charts....and if they do, they really shouldn't.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:21
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I get the Ageism angle, but Radio 1's mission is to cater to young people. If they think Madonna is boring and old, why should she have a place on the station?
It's NOT just about the music, it's more shallow than that - it's about image too.
That's the way it is, whether we like it or not.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:23
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She is hot on Grindr! I keep getting adverts.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:25
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Is it time to redefine Radio 1, perhaps?
Instead of attempting to cater to a specific demographic, refocus on a directive to play lively music with an emphasis on new music and the charts? Like it used to be, back in the day?
I bet the commercial sector would love that!
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:27
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I get the Ageism angle, but Radio 1's mission is to cater to young people. If they think Madonna is boring and old, why should she have a place on the station?
It's NOT just about the music, it's more shallow than that - it's about image too.
That's the way it is, whether we like it or not.
But young people don't just listen to whatever is new and in the charts.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:28
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This is the song:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u9h7Teiyvc8
Sounds like a current song, nothing retro or old sounding about it, then again it isn't going to be the song people will mention if you ask name a Madonna song.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:28
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It's the idea of what is relevant that annoys me. Why is it the below 30's that are considered "relevant"? Who decides this? Everyhing our lives are based around..even the most contemporary of technology has all been designed and created by GEn X and above.

Who created apple and your precious ipads? It wasn't Gen Y's. Who created Tesla...Not teens....

I REALLY want L4L to go to no 1 , mainly because it will be a bit spit in the eye to the likes of Radio 1. Funny thing is, it very well could. She's releasing it to coincide with her Brits performance and L4L has not been part of the pre release Rebel Heart Tracks.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:34
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The correct decision in my opinion, Madonna is not any more relevant to the youth of today than Lionel Richie. Her best years are obviously behind her (though look at the career she's had!). Let her be the legend that she is playing on the likes of Radio 2, Heart etc while the youth of today get on with the many artists of today she has clearly influenced.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:35
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I think the last time Madonna was considered "out of date" and "irrelevant" was 1993/4 when the albums "Erotic" & "Bedtime Stories" produced some singles which were not seen as Madonna's best "Take A Bow" reaching No.16, and "Bad Girl" reaching No.10.

I loved "Deeper & Deeper" and expected it to get much higher than No.6.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:38
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I think the last time Madonna was considered "out of date" and "irrelevant" was 1993/4 when the albums "Erotic" & "Bedtime Stories" produced some singles which were not seen as Madonna's best "Take A Bow" reaching No.16, and "Bad Girl" reaching No.10.

I loved "Deeper & Deeper" and expected it to get much higher than No.6.
Iorny was Take a Bow became her biggest ever no 1 hit in the states and she still hasn't surpassed it's success in terms of weeks at no 1.

That's why if her camp know whats right, the 2nd single better be Ghosttown, which basically craps on Ellie Gouldings latest no 1 imo.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:42
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I think the last time Madonna was considered "out of date" and "irrelevant" was 1993/4 when the albums "Erotic" & "Bedtime Stories" produced some singles which were not seen as Madonna's best "Take A Bow" reaching No.16, and "Bad Girl" reaching No.10.

I loved "Deeper & Deeper" and expected it to get much higher than No.6.
Ironically it could be argued that Erotica was Madonna at her most relevant in terms of what she had to say about post-AIDS culture. And I do see parallels with Madonna's recent output and media image. She is still pushing the boundaries of what some people try and pigeon hole people as.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:46
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I still think this 'relevance to BBC 1 audience' is a prejudiced agenda.


To say age is is precursor to they type of music people like is ignorant.
There will be many under 20s who love the pop stars that are over 30: Robbie, Kylie, Madonna, Take That, Gwen S, Britney Spears etc.

The average age of a radio 1 listener was supposed to be about 35.

Surely the R1 playlist needs to be based on the merit of the song and they hype and interest around it interms of the relevance to being play listed on the premier BBC radio station. It certainly should not be based on age.
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:47
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Ironically it could be argued that Erotica was Madonna at her most relevant in terms of what she had to say about post-AIDS culture. And I do see parallels with Madonna's recent output and media image. She is still pushing the boundaries of what some people try and pigeon hole people as.
The Erotica period was the first real Major Madonna backlash and really didn't have anything to do with the album. Unfortunatley, it came out at the same time as the SEX book and Body of Evidence and thus got lost in amongst all that controversy.

If you listen to it today, it's such a solid album and I think other than Ray of Light was the last time we got 5 singles from a Madonna album.

Rain resurrected the album in the states once the fuss about sex had died down, but it never achieved the sales of its predecessors
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Old 15-02-2015, 09:48
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I still think this 'relevance to BBC 1 audience' is a prejudiced agenda.


To say age is is precursor to they type of music people like is ignorant.
There will be many under 20s who love the pop stars that are over 30: Robbie, Kylie, Madonna, Take That, Gwen S, Britney Spears etc.

The average age of a radio 1 listener was supposed to be about 35.

Surely the R1 playlist needs to be based on the merit of the song and they hype and interest around it interms of the relevance to being play listed to the premier BBC radio station. It certainly should not be based on age.
That's the whole irony in it...DO 35 year olds really listen to one direction and Miley Cyrus?
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:00
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I think the last time Madonna was considered "out of date" and "irrelevant" was 1993/4 when the albums "Erotic" & "Bedtime Stories" produced some singles which were not seen as Madonna's best "Take A Bow" reaching No.16, and "Bad Girl" reaching No.10.

I loved "Deeper & Deeper" and expected it to get much higher than No.6.
Though I'd say (like Michael Jackson) she was still considered the biggest of popular stars back then. These days are different, she's older and considered more of the elder stateswoman of pop music these days.
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:10
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That's the whole irony in it...DO 35 year olds really listen to one direction and Miley Cyrus?
Yes, some do. Older generations listen to a wide range of music ....it's not based on the age of the artist...but the music itself.
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:11
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Though I'd say (like Michael Jackson) she was still considered the biggest of popular stars back then. These days are different, she's older and considered more of the elder stateswoman of pop music these days.
I still think she struggled from 92-97, she needed to get "Eva Peron" out of her system so she could move on to the next strength of "Ray of Light".

Madonna doesn't necessarily excel in the ballads department she excels more in my opinion in the dance department, which is why I think she struggled somewhat with "Playground", "I'll Remember" to an extent "You'll See".

Most people either like "80's pop Madonna" or "late 90's/2000 Dance Madonna" and "mid 90's power ballad Madonna" isn't always first choice with people.
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:13
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Yes, some do. Older generations listen to a wide range of music ....it's not based on the age of the artist...but the music itself.
That's what I can't understand..what One Direction make is not music to me. Although to be fair other than Leona Lewis..I would put any reality show/x factor artist in that bracket.
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:13
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That's the whole irony in it...DO 35 year olds really listen to one direction and Miley Cyrus?
I have just started getting back into music after listening to the charts solidly from August 1989 to 2005, the last decade has passed me by but by virtue of having a radio at work I can see that the autotune/rap is deminishing in favour of proper voices like Ed Sheeran, George Ezra etc.

So over 35's can listen to it and still enjoy I just wish I could eradicate the noise of 2005-2012.
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:14
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I still think she struggled from 92-97, she needed to get "Eva Peron" out of her system so she could move on to the next strength of "Ray of Light".

Madonna doesn't necessarily excel in the ballads department she excels more in my opinion in the dance department, which is why I think she struggled somewhat with "Playground", "I'll Remember" to an extent "You'll See".

Most people either like "80's pop Madonna" or "late 90's/2000 Dance Madonna" and "mid 90's power ballad Madonna" isn't always first choice with people.
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Old 15-02-2015, 10:15
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When they say young people, how old are they talking? I'm 22 and listen to plenty of older music, including Madonna, so why aren't they catering for me? I don't know any people my age who listen to Radio 1, because it's just full of chart crap that no one sane actually enjoys. Saying Madonna is irrelevant is stupid of them, she's the queen of pop, constantly gets to number 1 and sells out her tours. How in any world is that considered irrelevant?
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