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Madonna "no longer relevant" Radio 1 won't play new song
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Chris_Young
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by boddism:
“No, they'll play it, I believe they're obliged to, ESP if it's no1. BUT that'll be the ONLY time they play it.
The thing is: ageism is the next big "ism" that's gonna come into the public consciousness in the future. You've gotta think of it as a natural progression: sexism, racism, homophobia, now disablism is getting attention. What's next? It's OBVIOUSLY ageism. We can already see this with 40-60somethings refusing to be put into "age appropriate" boxes, in many ways Madonna is typical of this. You can't imagine the current crop of 20somethings will want to shuffled off into "age appropriate" entertainment in 20 yrs so if this is added to current attitudes amongst the middle aged, it's leading to a new "rights" movement.
And Radio 1 will look like REAL villains when this kicks off!!”

You know I really hope it gets into the top 10 and I really hope it goes number 1 (even though I don't think the song will) just so she can stick two fingers up at Radio 1. If Britney got Work Bitch into the top ten without a single live performance then surely Madonna can with Living For Live. Saying all that she's performing at The Brit Awards with her song!
Tejas
15-02-2015
I'm not really surprised by this decision at all, and in all honesty I doubt Madonna will care - she might get more publicity by NOT being on the playlist if it generates a bit of media controversy!

I agree though that music shouldn't be about the age of the singer/musicians - Radio 2 have actually playlisted at least one of One Direction's singles for example. It should be more about what the listeners are likely to enjoy.
BRITLAND
15-02-2015
Madonna is getting support everywhere right now with the exception of the BBC. Capital, Heart, local radio and I'm sure Kiss FM are playing L4L that with the Brits performance should get her a top ten placement. These Days by Take That got to no1 with no R1 support, I was listening when it was announced and then host Jamella Jamil replied "well done mums" I expect when Madonna charts R1 will do the same thing
BeethovensPiano
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by BRITLAND:
“These Days by Take That got to no1 with no R1 support, I was listening when it was announced and then host Jamella Jamil replied "well done mums" I expect when Madonna charts R1 will do the same thing”

If ever there were a need for an eye rolling smiley.......
RetroMusicFan
15-02-2015
Madonna performed at the Grammies and is performing at the Brits so if she was no longer relevant surely she wouldn't get asked to perform?

As for radio 1, it is their choice not to play her songs but it does seem rather a shame as lots of younger people like Madonna.
dearmrman
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by RetroMusicFan:
“Madonna performed at the Grammies and is performing at the Brits so if she was no longer relevant surely she wouldn't get asked to perform?

As for radio 1, it is their choice not to play her songs but it does seem rather a shame as lots of younger people like Madonna.”

Yes she would, as that will have nothing to do with being seen as relevant in today's market.
446.09375
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Chris_Young:
“IShe is still a relevant artist as Rebel Heart went to number 1 in 38 iTunes stores across the globe back in December. And that was just off pre-orders.”

(i.e. from fans who would buy anything she put out, even if it was just 74 minutes of her snoring in her sleep)

But chart success is still no reason for Radio 1 (with its current mission) to play something. What if an operatic, country/western, classic, jazz (etc) album went to number 1? Wouldn't be a natural fit for R1, would it?

I agree about nobody listening to R1 these days, my kids don't, and last time I asked they said none of their friends do, either. They're plumbed into their phones and iPads these days, radio is ancient tech for the oldies. I really wouldn't worry about this whole issue at all
Peter the Great
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by 446.09375:
“(i.e. from fans who would buy anything she put out, even if it was just 74 minutes of her snoring in her sleep)

But chart success is still no reason for Radio 1 (with its current mission) to play something. What if an operatic, country/western, classic, jazz (etc) album went to number 1? Wouldn't be a natural fit for R1, would it?

I agree about nobody listening to R1 these days, my kids don't, and last time I asked they said none of their friends do, either. They're plumbed into their phones and iPads these days, radio is ancient tech for the oldies. I really wouldn't worry about this whole issue at all ”

Radio 1 does have a sizeable audience so people are obviously still listening to the station. People in cars and at work would listen via traditional radios.
vaslav37
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by steveh31:
“‘At the end of the day it’s all about relevance. It’s natural that as an artist gets older their audience goes elsewhere and Radio 1 has to reflect that.

‘The station has a duty to meet the needs of younger listeners. I don’t think the audience is losing sleep that it is not playing Madonna in the same way that it used to.’

Not like radio 1 to be patronising lol and think it knows everything.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...listeners.html”

I wonder if Madonna wil ever get a top 40 hit again?
madiain28
15-02-2015
What I find interesting about this is that Radio 1 banned/stopped plaing Madonna after the Hard Candy era and they apparently they only played those tracks due to the agreement with WB. Yet everytime Madonna releases anything since the Celebration track they make an announcement they are not playing her. They also did the same re, Kylie, Robbie Williams. The fact is they say these artists aren't relevent your for someone that's not relevent she has been in the headlines continuesly over the past 4-5 months. She is so irrelevant that she did the Grammy's and is doing the Brits this year. I acknowledge that they might say due to an artists age they no longer feel they will play the artist but BBC of course won't they make comments about being relevent. The fact is Radio 1 says Madonna is not relevent yet it seems she is relevent enough to keep making statements about why they are not playing her. Radio 1 seems to need these artists just so they can make headlines themselves. I would suggest that it's Radio 1 that's irrelevant as a Radio Station.
Whitehouse95
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“Yes she would, as that will have nothing to do with being seen as relevant in today's market.”

Her tours still are the highest grossing for any solo artist, countless stories are written about her and she's probably the most discussed female artist on Digital Spy. Yes, she's still relevant.
Whitehouse95
15-02-2015
Radio 1 are implying that all younger people are ageist morons. Well as a young person I'm definitely not.

F*ck them.
Aneechik
15-02-2015
I'd be very surprised if the person who issued that statement isn't well over 30 like most of the Radio 1's employees.
Rijowhite
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“I'm not really surprised by this decision at all, and in all honesty I doubt Madonna will care - she might get more publicity by NOT being on the playlist if it generates a bit of media controversy!

I agree though that music shouldn't be about the age of the singer/musicians - Radio 2 have actually playlisted at least one of One Direction's singles for example. It should be more about what the listeners are likely to enjoy.”

Though it must be said One Direction's music is generally bland so therefore able to grab an audience on Radio 2 as much as Radio 1.

Radio 1 is different, it needs to attract a younger audience to justify it's existence. As I said earlier I feel it should be playing the latest music and the Superstars of today's music scene. Radio 1 moving onto younger DJ's than previous years will help with this shift too.
Cloudy2
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by BRITLAND:
“Madonna is getting support everywhere right now with the exception of the BBC. Capital, Heart, local radio and I'm sure Kiss FM are playing L4L that with the Brits performance should get her a top ten placement. These Days by Take That got to no1 with no R1 support, I was listening when it was announced and then host Jamella Jamil replied "well done mums" I expect when Madonna charts R1 will do the same thing”

Living For Love is currently playlisted on Capital and c-list on Radio 2. It's not listed on Kiss or Heart. I've yet to hear it on radio and as of the last airplay chart (14th Feb.) it's not in the top 40 most played songs in the UK.

There is limited support for the single at the moment, Universal/interscope have yet to announce a CD of the single, there is no sign of any 12" picture disc, there is no sign of any remixes appearing and Living For Love the single seems to have disappeared from iTunes, it's the album track only unless you look to find it. It's not due for release until 25th feb. which is a Wednesday when it should come out on a Monday. It seems a mess.

I do think The Brits performance will make it a top 10 hit but without radio support and record company support it's chart run will be short.

As for radio 1 it's for them to decide what to play.
Whitehouse95
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“Living For Love is currently playlisted on Capital and c-list on Radio 2. It's not listed on Kiss or Heart. I've yet to hear it on radio and as of the last airplay chart (14th Feb.) it's not in the top 40 most played songs in the UK.

There is limited support for the single at the moment, Universal/interscope have yet to announce a CD of the single, there is no sign of any 12" picture disc, there is no sign of any remixes appearing and Living For Love the single seems to have disappeared from iTunes, it's the album track only unless you look to find it. It's not due for release until 25th feb. which is a Wednesday when it should come out on a Monday. It seems a mess.

I do think The Brits performance will make it a top 10 hit but without radio support and record company support it's chart run will be short.

As for radio 1 it's for them to decide what to play.”


It says more about the ageist idiots who run the radio stations than it does about Madonna. Living For Love is as good as any song in the current top 10 and is contemporary, I can't think of another reason for them blacklisting her other than her age and shame on them for doing so.
Peter the Great
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Whitehouse95:
“It says more about the ageist idiots who run the radio stations than it does about Madonna. Living For Love is as good as any song in the current top 10 and is contemporary, I can't think of another reason for them blacklisting her other than her age and shame on them for doing so.”

But they haven't blacklisted her. She just isn't on their playlists. There are alot of other artists alot younger than Madonna that aren't being played on Radio .
jlp95bwfc
15-02-2015
I think the worst snub in recent times on Radio 1 was Robbie Williams - Candy. It was a song popular with young people as well as older and went to No. 1. It certainly wasn't just bought by mums. Capital played it to death and I just couldn't understand why Radio 1 didn't feel it was relevant. I always think it's great when a song does well without Radio 1 support and they have to acknowledge it. Radio 1 is a joke of a station and certainly doesn't appeal to the majority of young people I know.
glyn9799
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Whitehouse95:
“It says more about the ageist idiots who run the radio stations than it does about Madonna. Living For Love is as good as any song in the current top 10 and is contemporary, I can't think of another reason for them blacklisting her other than her age and shame on them for doing so.”

R1 are ageist and no mistake. I was so surprised when they playlisted Mary J Blige (who is the ripe old age of 44! ), but they clearly only listed her because of the Disclosure/Sam Smith connection which they mentioned practically every time they played her.

R1 never used to be this bad. I remember about 10 years ago when the played the hell out of Elton's 'Are You Ready For Love', which was not only released by a guy in his late 50s, but was also a release of a 25 year old song. Can't imagine them doing that nowadays.

I personally think it's time their music department had a bit of a shake up.
Tejas
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“I think the worst snub in recent times on Radio 1 was Robbie Williams - Candy. It was a song popular with young people as well as older and went to No. 1. It certainly wasn't just bought by mums. Capital played it to death and I just couldn't understand why Radio 1 didn't feel it was relevant. I always think it's great when a song does well without Radio 1 support and they have to acknowledge it. Radio 1 is a joke of a station and certainly doesn't appeal to the majority of young people I know.”

Another one they ignored was 'Moves Like Jagger'. In fairness Maroon 5 hadn't had a hit for ages before that one but again it showed that Radio 1 are nowhere near as in touch with what the youngsters like as they like to think!
BRITLAND
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Cloudy2:
“Living For Love is currently playlisted on Capital and c-list on Radio 2. It's not listed on Kiss or Heart. I've yet to hear it on radio and as of the last airplay chart (14th Feb.) it's not in the top 40 most played songs in the UK.

There is limited support for the single at the moment, Universal/interscope have yet to announce a CD of the single, there is no sign of any 12" picture disc, there is no sign of any remixes appearing and Living For Love the single seems to have disappeared from iTunes, it's the album track only unless you look to find it. It's not due for release until 25th feb. which is a Wednesday when it should come out on a Monday. It seems a mess.

I do think The Brits performance will make it a top 10 hit but without radio support and record company support it's chart run will be short.

As for radio 1 it's for them to decide what to play.”

I've hear it on my local station, and I thought I heard it once on Heart, maybe it was Capital or my local then. Surely Heart will playlist it after the Brits, they love the artists that R1 hate.

Also isn't 25th Feb the day of the Brits? When Madonna is performing?
jlp95bwfc
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Another one they ignored was 'Moves Like Jagger'. In fairness Maroon 5 hadn't had a hit for ages before that one but again it showed that Radio 1 are nowhere near as in touch with what the youngsters like as they like to think!”

I didn't realise that they snubbed that track. That's incredibly bad. Second biggest selling song of the year in the UK and the BBC didn't think it was relevant. Unbelievable. Not having a hit in a while (which is what I think it's based on more than age) is such a poor excuse not to playlist a track which so obviously is appealing to youngsters.
cnbcwatcher
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by Petrolicious:
“That's the whole irony in it...DO 35 year olds really listen to one direction and Miley Cyrus?”

There are probably some who do, but I would be surprised at 35 yr olds listening to 1D.

Originally Posted by Whitehouse95:
“Radio 1 are implying that all younger people are ageist morons. Well as a young person I'm definitely not.

F*ck them.”

I'm nearly 25 and age doesn't bother me. What matters most is the music. If I like the music I'll listen to it, if I do't like it I'll pass on it.
Aura101
15-02-2015
This whole Radio one 'ageism' thing has been plodding along for ages now.
There are countless examples and its mainly against women, most recently they refused to playlist Fergies new song even though it was a contender for number one. Why? Because she's knocking 40. They haven't playlist Kylie for years either . or Britney !
Its a ****ing horrific station let's be honest.

They also seem to have a blanket ban on 'pop' music unless its one direction example:

GRL managed to have the biggest selling song by a girlband last year, so what was radio ones excuse for not playing it?!
RetroMusicFan
15-02-2015
Originally Posted by dearmrman:
“Yes she would, as that will have nothing to do with being seen as relevant in today's market.”

Eh?

I'm not sure what you mean.

Why did they invite her to perform then, if she's irrelevant?
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