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Old 18-02-2015, 13:03
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Well it looks like the fans reaction worked! According to radio 1's news beat just now, Living For Love will go on the A-List next week
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Old 18-02-2015, 13:16
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Well it looks like the fans reaction worked! According to radio 1's news beat just now, Living For Love will go on the A-List next week
Oh my word! What was actually said on the news beat?
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Old 18-02-2015, 13:31
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I didn't hear them say on Newsbeat that it was joining their A-List but Im in work and possibly didn't hear them right.

What I did hear about the situation sounded condescending, they claimed most of the people causing the Facebook rebellion were from South America and yet again cited the fact they play music from the 72 year old Paul McCartney who features with two younger artists and from the 49 year old David Guetta who once again loses prominence due to the singer on his songs being more current
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Old 18-02-2015, 14:08
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They just need to explain themselves a little better. If they elaborated on why they don't believe this track is relevant then they'd at least put the ageism accusation to bed (unless of course it's simply down to the artist in question being old).
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Old 18-02-2015, 14:15
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The A list?!!!!

Are you sure? if its being put straight onto the A list then the backlash must have been so big they felt they no choice but to give it that status.

I'd love it if she went to number 1 off the back of all this. So many of her detractors will be fuming right about now! haha
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Old 18-02-2015, 14:34
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The A list?!!!!

Are you sure? if its being put straight onto the A list then the backlash must have been so big they felt they no choice but to give it that status.

I'd love it if she went to number 1 off the back of all this. So many of her detractors will be fuming right about now! haha
Wouldn't mean anything if it did, a protest buy nothing more, not because people like the song or not....why the chart obsession anyway? if your fan it's totally irrelevant.
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Old 18-02-2015, 14:43
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I'd love it if she went to number 1 off the back of all this. So many of her detractors will be fuming right about now! haha
is her chart Position really that important to you?
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:13
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Wouldn't mean anything if it did, a protest buy nothing more, not because people like the song or not....why the chart obsession anyway? if your fan it's totally irrelevant.
Would people buy a Madonna song out of protest if they didn't like Madonna? Could you not accept they're buying it because they think it's good?

is her chart Position really that important to you?
It would stop all the "Madonna is irrelevant" statements from people who wish she'd go away. I have no idea why people focus on Madonna for criticism than any other artist.
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:21
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The A list?!!!!

Are you sure? if its being put straight onto the A list then the backlash must have been so big they felt they no choice but to give it that status.

I'd love it if she went to number 1 off the back of all this. So many of her detractors will be fuming right about now! haha
This isn't correct. She's not on next week's playlist which has just been announced on Facebook. Nearly every reply on FB is asking where it is once again.
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:36
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Another reason why they won't play her is perhaps R1 is worried that it will attract older people to the station. Remember it was the BBC Trust which stated that R1 had to lower the age of their average listener, maybe they're just desperate to lower the age and will happily accept the station being listened to 13 year old girls?

Enough of me trying to defend them though, even just putting her on the C list im sure people will happily accept
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Old 18-02-2015, 17:51
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Another reason why they won't play her is perhaps R1 is worried that it will attract older people to the station. Remember it was the BBC Trust which stated that R1 had to lower the age of their average listener, maybe they're just desperate to lower the age and will happily accept the station being listened to 13 year old girls?

Enough of me trying to defend them though, even just putting her on the C list im sure people will happily accept
I'm not so sure. Do they really think people are going to tune into a station specifically for a song. I listen to R1, I'm in their target range and I do wanna hear it. I'm not going to listen to capital just to hear it.

However I love that she's acknowledged it on Facebook. She's posting newspaper articles about it now!
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:00
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Would people buy a Madonna song out of protest if they didn't like Madonna? Could you not accept they're buying it because they think it's good?



It would stop all the "Madonna is irrelevant" statements from people who wish she'd go away. I have no idea why people focus on Madonna for criticism than any other artist.
Exactly! I read a comment on here under the articles section from someone claiming to be an 'expert' saying Madonna will never have another top 10 single until she dies. Its rubbish statements like that which makes me want to see this song do well. So if it pisses people off so much yes, I want her in the top 10!
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:03
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Would people buy a Madonna song out of protest if they didn't like Madonna? Could you not accept they're buying it because they think it's good?

What you think all those people that brought Rage Against The Machine to stop X Factor getting no.1 all liked the song? No people will buy things if they think it is a good cause and to protest against big organisations who they feel are doing wrong.

It would stop all the "Madonna is irrelevant" statements from people who wish she'd go away. I have no idea why people focus on Madonna for criticism than any other artist.
And? what's the big deal if people find her irrelevant, or do you only buy the music because she is relevant...no fan should really give a toss one way or the other, you either like her music or you don't, what others think... now that is irrelevant.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:07
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But it's not just radio. I've yet to see the video on any music channel.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:09
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It would stop all the "Madonna is irrelevant" statements from people who wish she'd go away. I have no idea why people focus on Madonna for criticism than any other artist.
I don't think it would, as musical relevance isn't necessarily evidenced by popularity.

This is why R1 could do with clarifying their criteria a bit better.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:09
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And? what's the big deal if people find her irrelevant, or do you only buy the music because she is relevant...no fan should really give a toss one way or the other, you either like her music or you don't, what others think... now that is irrelevant.
Any artist is relevant or irrelevant to a casual listener depending on whether you like them. You are missing the point here. Madonna has been described as "irrelevant" as a factual statement by one of the UK's premier Radio stations and they have refused to play her record. No other artist has been described as irrelevant by any media outlet and as Madonna has one of the biggest fan bases in the world, it is inevitable they are going to defend her. The outcry on facebook, the worldwide attention is proof that she is still relevant and all we want is for Radio 1 to acknowledge that.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:11
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And? what's the big deal if people find her irrelevant, or do you only buy the music because she is relevant...no fan should really give a toss one way or the other, you either like her music or you don't, what others think... now that is irrelevant.
You say this yet I bet if Rebel Heart only got to number 8 you would be the first one who had something to say about it!
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:17
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Any artist is relevant or irrelevant to a casual listener depending on whether you like them. You are missing the point here. Madonna has been described as "irrelevant" as a factual statement by one of the UK's premier Radio stations and they have refused to play her record. No other artist has been described as irrelevant by any media outlet and as Madonna has one of the biggest fan bases in the world, it is inevitable they are going to defend her. The outcry on facebook, the worldwide attention is proof that she is still relevant and all we want is for Radio 1 to acknowledge that.
Sense of entitlement much....seriously if R1 have decided that she is no longer relevant to their playlist then that is their right, why should they acknowledge she is relevant, they have decided she is irrelevant to that particular station...not their other stations.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:22
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Sense of entitlement much....seriously if R1 have decided that she is no longer relevant to their playlist then that is their right, why should they acknowledge she is relevant, they have decided she is irrelevant to that particular station...not their other stations.
Whatever. You have your views, I have mine. It is strange though that the entire ten minute takeover on R1's facebook page all requested L4L! All 600+ people. Yet, R1 remain silent in the arrogant office.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:23
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You say this yet I bet if Rebel Heart only got to number 8 you would be the first one who had something to say about it!
Why? I find the charts irrelevant, I don't look at them, I don't buy my music based on what's in or not in the charts...I buy music based on the artists I like and couldn't care if people like them or not, relevant or irrelevant it makes no difference.

Madonna could be no.1 or no. 500 for all I care, if I liked her new album I would buy it.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:25
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No other artist has been described as irrelevant by any media outlet
Huh?
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:38
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Sense of entitlement much....seriously if R1 have decided that she is no longer relevant to their playlist then that is their right, why should they acknowledge she is relevant, they have decided she is irrelevant to that particular station...not their other stations.
Is it though the right of a public funded Radio Station to refuse to play an artist. Don't get me wrong if it had been Radio 2,3 etc. I don't think people would be so annoyed. What annoys me about this isn't so much just Madonna being snubbed this has been an ongoing battle for several years with BBC Radio 1. It is the Station that has the UK,s official chart and as such they should play whatever is most popular. If they as a station decide that artists over a certain age or genre of music does not suit what they want as a demographic audience or charts in the official countdown then should that station have the rights to the official chart. As we don't yet know what charting Madonna will be I can understand them not adding to the A playlist however as a station they should not factually say someone is irrelevant. Many artists and tracks have been ignored even though they have got to No. 1 or made the top 10 in the UK. Personally I think regardless of the Madonna backlash Radio 1 should lose the official chart countdown as they do not represent a Radio channel that is representative of the popular chart. By there own admission they have a target audience which does not fit into the entire demogrraph of the UK music scene.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:48
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Is it though the right of a public funded Radio Station to refuse to play an artist.
They can hardly play every artist that releases a new song. They're totally within their rights to pick and choose between tracks.

The majority of playlisted tracks on Radio 1 will chart highly, Nick Grimshaw is not playing avant garde classical on his show.
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Old 18-02-2015, 18:58
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Did anybody hear Newsbeat at 6pm. They once again claimed they aren't ageist because "we play Sia and she's 39."

You seriously couldn't make it up.
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Old 18-02-2015, 19:01
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They can hardly play every artist that releases a new song. They're totally within their rights to pick and choose between tracks.

The majority of playlisted tracks on Radio 1 will chart highly, Nick Grimshaw is not playing avant garde classical on his show.
I did actually state in the rest of my post that I understood as it had not yet charted so understood not adding to playlist, however I explained the rest of my gripe re Radio1 on a whole as this is nothing new them deciding not to play an artist regardless of them being in the chart. So you completely took what I said out of the context of my point. I don't expect them to play every new release by every artist however I do expect them to represent the entire chart not just who they deem as relevent, otherwise they shouldn't have the rights to the official chart countdown.
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