Come on, Bobby? Seriously? He's barely even a character. His appearance yesterday was the first in yonks. If he is the killer I will be sorely disappointed in the writers.
Jane killed Lucy Beale!
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Originally Posted by red29:
“If it's Bobby where does the music box at Christmas fit in? Who put it there? Even if it was the murder weapon why put it there?”
“If it's Bobby where does the music box at Christmas fit in? Who put it there? Even if it was the murder weapon why put it there?”
I think Lucy found Bobby looking inside the music box - where she kept her drugs. She sla[pped or pushed him and in retaliation he smacked her around the side of the head with the box, which was still in his hand.
Jane got the body away from the house in her car. (Emma 'It's not there' - Jane's car.)
Jane is in it up to her neck but I din't think is the killer.
Ready to be proved wrong though ....
Maybe Cindy knows, and putting the box there is a subtle way of letting both Jane and Bobby know this.
Originally Posted by red29:
“Maybe it was Ian but he didn't realise and Jane has been covering for him to protect as it was an accident?”
“Maybe it was Ian but he didn't realise and Jane has been covering for him to protect as it was an accident?”
I'm still holding on to that chain of thought.
The press release said "What killed Lucy", so it is more than possible that the killer does not know.
If it's Bobby, it'll be a bit embarrassing for Eastenders. Cindy will be a bit tame.
I just hope for another twist.
Originally Posted by wilpeep:
“Come on, Bobby? Seriously? He's barely even a character. His appearance yesterday was the first in yonks. If he is the killer I will be sorely disappointed in the writers.”
“Come on, Bobby? Seriously? He's barely even a character. His appearance yesterday was the first in yonks. If he is the killer I will be sorely disappointed in the writers.”
Jane whisked him away pretty smart-ish after the death, and only (reluctantly) brought him back to Walford when he was bullied at his new school. The first thing he did was run away to Walford Common and camp out in the spot where Lucy's body was found. Guilt?
I reckon Masood and Ben may be involved - hence her hiding Ben's stuff earlier on.
Don't mind if Cindy is involved too, just as long as Peter isn't the killer!
Don't mind if Cindy is involved too, just as long as Peter isn't the killer!
Originally Posted by NickJordan:
“This is why I don't think it's Bobby:
A) How could he hit her hard enough to kill her? I doubt he could even knock her out or push her over.
B) Why the hell would he? Bobby has no reason to.
C) Would they trust an actor that young with something as momentous as this?”
“This is why I don't think it's Bobby:
A) How could he hit her hard enough to kill her? I doubt he could even knock her out or push her over.
B) Why the hell would he? Bobby has no reason to.
C) Would they trust an actor that young with something as momentous as this?”
It was an accident, he could have pushed Lucy and she tripped and banged her head, he could have thrown the jewellery box and it hit her on the head. Maybe Bobbi came across the jewellery box, which contained her drugs. Just because he's Young doesn't rule them out of such story lines. Andy Sugden in Emerdale set alight to the barn and murdered his step mom.
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
“I think Lucy found Bobby looking inside the music box - where she kept her drugs. She slapped or pushed him and in retaliation he smacked her around the side of the head with the box, which was still in his hand.”
“I think Lucy found Bobby looking inside the music box - where she kept her drugs. She slapped or pushed him and in retaliation he smacked her around the side of the head with the box, which was still in his hand.”
Yes, Lucy slapped her 10-year old brother.
Originally Posted by Kay2000:
“Maybe Bobbi came across the jewellery box, which contained her drugs. .”
“Maybe Bobbi came across the jewellery box, which contained her drugs. .”
The same applies for Cindy. Cindy knew Lucy was taking drugs but we don't know how she came to know that.
Originally Posted by Kay2000:
“It was an accident, he could have pushed Lucy and she tripped and banged her head, he could have thrown the jewellery box and it hit her on the head. Maybe Bobbi came across the jewellery box, which contained her drugs. Just because he's Young doesn't rule them out of such story lines. Andy Sugden in Emerdale set alight to the barn and murdered his step mom.”
“It was an accident, he could have pushed Lucy and she tripped and banged her head, he could have thrown the jewellery box and it hit her on the head. Maybe Bobbi came across the jewellery box, which contained her drugs. Just because he's Young doesn't rule them out of such story lines. Andy Sugden in Emerdale set alight to the barn and murdered his step mom.”
Also Lucy had an existing head trauma sustained in Max's portacabin, and also had been slapped by Abi
That makes two blows to the head. . If Bobby threw the box at her and it caught her on the temple where she already had a blood clot forming from the earlier injuries she could die quite quickly - just as Emma did.
I think Max helped Jane move the body because he thought it was Abi. Richard Blackwood the drug dealer saw them and told Phil.......
Originally Posted by Firegazer:
“Yes, Lucy slapped her 10-year old brother.”
“Yes, Lucy slapped her 10-year old brother.”
I don't see this as impossible. Why wouldn't Lucy slap her brother if he was prying in her things, and likely to find her cocaine?
She wasn't a saint.
The theories about Bobby remind me of when Maggie shot Mr Burns. Not saying it's not Bobby, just reminded me of it all those years ago, although that was only 2 months over the summer to wait. 30 mind to go people!!
Originally Posted by doormouse1:
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Maybe Cindy knows, and putting the box there is a subtle way of letting both Jane and Bobby know this.”
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Maybe Cindy knows, and putting the box there is a subtle way of letting both Jane and Bobby know this.”
That's what I keep thinking, for the music box to reappear at Christmas is there a third party that knows as well? Another helper of moving the body maybe?
I haven't watched EE for 20 years now but after 5 minutes of tonight's episode I'd guessed it was Jane!
Originally Posted by wilpeep:
“Come on, Bobby? Seriously? He's barely even a character. His appearance yesterday was the first in yonks. If he is the killer I will be sorely disappointed in the writers.”
“Come on, Bobby? Seriously? He's barely even a character. His appearance yesterday was the first in yonks. If he is the killer I will be sorely disappointed in the writers.”
Me too, he hardly has any lines, the viewers don't care about him as a character and he was not on the official suspect list that they gave us so i will be disapointed if they have gone down this route.
Originally Posted by bebo83:
“She is not the killer, she is covering for the killer. remember Summerhayes conversation.”
“She is not the killer, she is covering for the killer. remember Summerhayes conversation.”
So the unseen person Summerhayes was talking to could have been Jane, not actually confessing to murder but telling her that she knew who did it?
Remember too how can they have a child be a killer there is no way that little chap can pull it off, this is the simple reason why it's not Bobby.
Unless he just has lines like " I didn't know daddy" which would be terrible, it has to be someone capable.
Unless he just has lines like " I didn't know daddy" which would be terrible, it has to be someone capable.
She had a nosebleed there when he was fixing her laptop.
I also think Jane is covering for Bobby, who is completely unaware that he caused his sister's death. He will remain unaware too, I feel.
I also think Jane is covering for Bobby, who is completely unaware that he caused his sister's death. He will remain unaware too, I feel.
Originally Posted by Sick Bullet:
“Remember too how can they have a child be a killer there is no way that little chap can pull it off, this is the simple reason why it's not Bobby.
Unless he just has lines like " I didn't know daddy" which would be terrible, it has to be someone capable.”
“Remember too how can they have a child be a killer there is no way that little chap can pull it off, this is the simple reason why it's not Bobby.
Unless he just has lines like " I didn't know daddy" which would be terrible, it has to be someone capable.”
Maybe they never tell him it's him, so he doesn't need to say anything? ???
Originally Posted by B*witched:
“So the unseen person Summerhayes was talking to could have been Jane, not actually confessing to murder but telling her that she knew who did it?”
“So the unseen person Summerhayes was talking to could have been Jane, not actually confessing to murder but telling her that she knew who did it?”
Not only that but she said to Max that he knew. So i think he assumed it was 'Abi' and helped Jane and move the body to the common.
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