Moto G 2014 Lollipop

The Sack · 20-02-2015, 10:52

Both my kids have the Lollipop update waiting for their 2014 Moto G but given lollipops battery life crapness on my Nexus 5 i am very reluctant to tell them to go ahead with it.

Anyone else bit the bullet and does it also sort out the memory problems?

petef · 20-02-2015, 12:15

Here is a recent test on upgrading Moto G 2nd Gen to Lollipop. (Moto X, Samsung Galaxy G5 and LG G3 are also tested.)

http://www.techspot.com/article/961-...ife/page4.html

That shows that battery life increases of between -10% and +5%. The decreases were with an earlier Lollipop release and may have been due to mishandling the second SIM. I gather that some work items in the minor releases since Lollipop was first released have been addressing battery issues.

CPU gets about a 5% lift. The worst case battery life decrease was 10%. I intend to upgrade my Moto G 2nd Gen this evening, after I've done a backup.

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The Sack · 20-02-2015, 16:40

I did it in the end anyway, both are very happy, cant comment on the battery but they both agree the phone feels even better.

Swipe · 20-02-2015, 17:18

i think I'll wait a few more days. I'll let others be the canaries

keithsto · 20-02-2015, 17:33

Were they Moto G 4G phones? No update is showing on my ex tesco phone.

jchamier · 20-02-2015, 17:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by keithsto

Were they Moto G 4G phones? No update is showing on my ex tesco phone.

Only the 2014 model (3g only) has been updated yet. The 2013 model and the 2013 4G model haven't yet had an update.

petef · 21-02-2015, 09:14

I've upgraded my Moto G 2nd Gen to Lollipop / Android 5.0.2. There was only one niggle.

Google Play services kept on nagging me to upgrade but then failing to do so. Its version was 6.7.74 and the new one 6.7.76. I successfully updated a couple of other apps after loading Lollipop.

"Google Play services could not be downloaded due to an error (944)"

In time honoured IT tradition I cycled power on the phone and then the update succeeded.

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The Sack · 21-02-2015, 16:19

Quote:

Originally Posted by Swipe

i think I'll wait a few more days. I'll let others be the canaries

In all fairness Motorola have been testing it for months, you could freely sign up to it.

Swipe · 22-02-2015, 09:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Sack

In all fairness Motorola have been testing it for months, you could freely sign up to it.

I'm happy staying on kit kat tbh

Zebb · 22-02-2015, 12:13

When GSMArena did their testing, it was surprising how battery life changed between KitKat and Lollipop in different modes like web browsing, watching videos and making calls.

Also, when I talked to Motorola tech support, they said I had two chances to reject the Lollipop update before it forced you to accept it, true or false?

Swipe · 22-02-2015, 17:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zebb

Also, when I talked to Motorola tech support, they said I had two chances to reject the Lollipop update before it forced you to accept it, true or false?

False, I must have rejected it about a dozen times since Friday

jonmorris · 22-02-2015, 22:34

I've not found any problems with 5.0.2 since getting it last week, bar the launcher (Google Now in my case) still restarting quite frequently which is a bit of an annoyance.

I do think launchers should never be shut down to free up space, no matter what. It's a perception thing, and obviously gives masses of ammunition to the fanboys.

Some Moto G (single SIM) versions got Lollipop very quickly, in keeping with Motorola's recent track record on updates, but the issues that forced out 5.0.1 and now 5.0.2 did trigger this delay, so hopefully Motorola only signed it off once almost all issues were fixed.

This is why Android 5.0.x has been slow to appear on other handsets too, despite most companies promising quicker updates (knowing that not doing so will put people off, as HTC discovered a while back when an awful lot of long-term loyal users got really annoyed).

Zebb · 09-03-2015, 23:00

The Motorola forums reported this today for the 2013 Moto G 3G; All users with Retail GB and the following Sim Locked devices (Retail EU (Ireland), SFR, Tesco GB, Vodafone GB, Everything Everywhere GB, and O2 GB) can download and install Android 5.0.2.

but not for the G 4G yet.

BeethovensPiano · 10-03-2015, 07:50

My mums Tesco 2013 Moto G just got this update.

BeethovensPiano · 10-03-2015, 08:58

Which is already out of date with 5.1 being released yesterday lol

jonmorris · 10-03-2015, 09:04

I don't think it should be too long until 5.1 comes to these phones. The delay last time was mostly due to stopping the rollout until 5.0.2 was released.

US models had got 5.0 quickly and there were various issues so everything paused.

It's not been much better for Nexus owners.

Synthetic42 · 10-03-2015, 09:13

Just got the lollipop update prompt on my work vodafone moto g, downloading now

Zebb · 10-03-2015, 10:49

Google reports that 5.1 supports (High Definition voice calling is now on your mobile phone) VoLTE on compatible phones, but which ones?

http://officialandroid.blogspot.co.u...-lollipop.html

Gordie1 · 16-03-2015, 17:56

My 1st gen moto g updated with this last week, there is some bug where the battery drains in 8 hours, its the google play services checking location constantly, i disabled location services and fully charged its saying battery life 3 days left, this bug needs sorted though, i shouldn't need to disable stuff to keep it working.

The Sack · 16-03-2015, 18:25

My Nexus 5 was losing battery so fast under 5.0.1 i was having to charge it 3 times a day, it was losing 10% per hour just sat there. Anyway rest assured under 5.1 its fixed and its lasting much much longer, in the last 9 hours it has lost 6% so massive improvement.

Hopefully 5.1 will be out for the Moto G soon because it is much, much better.

victor mel · 16-03-2015, 20:05

Do you have to back up photos and contacts on the phone or can you just update straight off?

Gordie1 · 16-03-2015, 20:21

Quote:

Originally Posted by victor mel

Do you have to back up photos and contacts on the phone or can you just update straight off?

Mine just worked

alanwarwic · 16-03-2015, 21:11

I'm one to avoid so called upgrades, but not having returned off all the advanced google settings that you don't really need often accounts for a decrease

Synthetic42 · 16-03-2015, 22:00

Mine seems to be the only one that's working fine

Swipe · 17-03-2015, 18:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic42

Mine seems to be the only one that's working fine

I've been putting mine off for the last few weeks but finally upgraded at the weekend. The constant pestering 10 times a day was driving me nuts. I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised with lollipop and have not had any problems.

20-02-2015, 10:52	#1
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Moto G 2014 Lollipop Both my kids have the Lollipop update waiting for their 2014 Moto G but given lollipops battery life crapness on my Nexus 5 i am very reluctant to tell them to go ahead with it. Anyone else bit the bullet and does it also sort out the memory problems?

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20-02-2015, 12:15	#2
petef Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 120	Here is a recent test on upgrading Moto G 2nd Gen to Lollipop. (Moto X, Samsung Galaxy G5 and LG G3 are also tested.) http://www.techspot.com/article/961-...ife/page4.html That shows that battery life increases of between -10% and +5%. The decreases were with an earlier Lollipop release and may have been due to mishandling the second SIM. I gather that some work items in the minor releases since Lollipop was first released have been addressing battery issues. CPU gets about a 5% lift. The worst case battery life decrease was 10%. I intend to upgrade my Moto G 2nd Gen this evening, after I've done a backup. -- Pete Forman http://petef.22web.org/payg.html

20-02-2015, 16:40	#3
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	I did it in the end anyway, both are very happy, cant comment on the battery but they both agree the phone feels even better.

20-02-2015, 17:18	#4
Swipe Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,183	i think I'll wait a few more days. I'll let others be the canaries

20-02-2015, 17:33	#5
keithsto Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Leeds Posts: 120	Were they Moto G 4G phones? No update is showing on my ex tesco phone.

20-02-2015, 17:38	#6
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by keithsto Were they Moto G 4G phones? No update is showing on my ex tesco phone. Only the 2014 model (3g only) has been updated yet. The 2013 model and the 2013 4G model haven't yet had an update.

21-02-2015, 09:14	#7
petef Forum Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 120	I've upgraded my Moto G 2nd Gen to Lollipop / Android 5.0.2. There was only one niggle. Google Play services kept on nagging me to upgrade but then failing to do so. Its version was 6.7.74 and the new one 6.7.76. I successfully updated a couple of other apps after loading Lollipop. "Google Play services could not be downloaded due to an error (944)" In time honoured IT tradition I cycled power on the phone and then the update succeeded. -- Pete Forman http://petef.22web.org/payg.html

21-02-2015, 16:19	#8
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	Quote: Originally Posted by Swipe i think I'll wait a few more days. I'll let others be the canaries In all fairness Motorola have been testing it for months, you could freely sign up to it.

22-02-2015, 09:04	#9
Swipe Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,183	Quote: Originally Posted by The Sack In all fairness Motorola have been testing it for months, you could freely sign up to it. I'm happy staying on kit kat tbh

22-02-2015, 12:13	#10
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	When GSMArena did their testing, it was surprising how battery life changed between KitKat and Lollipop in different modes like web browsing, watching videos and making calls. Also, when I talked to Motorola tech support, they said I had two chances to reject the Lollipop update before it forced you to accept it, true or false?

22-02-2015, 17:22	#11
Swipe Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,183	Quote: Originally Posted by Zebb Also, when I talked to Motorola tech support, they said I had two chances to reject the Lollipop update before it forced you to accept it, true or false? False, I must have rejected it about a dozen times since Friday

22-02-2015, 22:34	#12
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I've not found any problems with 5.0.2 since getting it last week, bar the launcher (Google Now in my case) still restarting quite frequently which is a bit of an annoyance. I do think launchers should never be shut down to free up space, no matter what. It's a perception thing, and obviously gives masses of ammunition to the fanboys. Some Moto G (single SIM) versions got Lollipop very quickly, in keeping with Motorola's recent track record on updates, but the issues that forced out 5.0.1 and now 5.0.2 did trigger this delay, so hopefully Motorola only signed it off once almost all issues were fixed. This is why Android 5.0.x has been slow to appear on other handsets too, despite most companies promising quicker updates (knowing that not doing so will put people off, as HTC discovered a while back when an awful lot of long-term loyal users got really annoyed).

09-03-2015, 23:00	#13
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	The Motorola forums reported this today for the 2013 Moto G 3G; All users with Retail GB and the following Sim Locked devices (Retail EU (Ireland), SFR, Tesco GB, Vodafone GB, Everything Everywhere GB, and O2 GB) can download and install Android 5.0.2. but not for the G 4G yet.

10-03-2015, 07:50	#14
BeethovensPiano Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ♫ At The Keyboard ♫ Posts: 11,556	My mums Tesco 2013 Moto G just got this update.

10-03-2015, 08:58	#15
BeethovensPiano Inactive Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: ♫ At The Keyboard ♫ Posts: 11,556	Which is already out of date with 5.1 being released yesterday lol

10-03-2015, 09:04	#16
jonmorris Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: a land filled with trolls Posts: 12,018	I don't think it should be too long until 5.1 comes to these phones. The delay last time was mostly due to stopping the rollout until 5.0.2 was released. US models had got 5.0 quickly and there were various issues so everything paused. It's not been much better for Nexus owners.

10-03-2015, 09:13	#17
Synthetic42 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,510	Just got the lollipop update prompt on my work vodafone moto g, downloading now

10-03-2015, 10:49	#18
Zebb Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 652	Google reports that 5.1 supports (High Definition voice calling is now on your mobile phone) VoLTE on compatible phones, but which ones? http://officialandroid.blogspot.co.u...-lollipop.html

16-03-2015, 17:56	#19
Gordie1 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: England Posts: 6,317	My 1st gen moto g updated with this last week, there is some bug where the battery drains in 8 hours, its the google play services checking location constantly, i disabled location services and fully charged its saying battery life 3 days left, this bug needs sorted though, i shouldn't need to disable stuff to keep it working.

16-03-2015, 18:25	#20
The Sack Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: S6 1SW WTID UTO FTB Posts: 6,327	My Nexus 5 was losing battery so fast under 5.0.1 i was having to charge it 3 times a day, it was losing 10% per hour just sat there. Anyway rest assured under 5.1 its fixed and its lasting much much longer, in the last 9 hours it has lost 6% so massive improvement. Hopefully 5.1 will be out for the Moto G soon because it is much, much better.

16-03-2015, 20:05	#21
victor mel Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Kent Posts: 2,855	Do you have to back up photos and contacts on the phone or can you just update straight off?

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16-03-2015, 20:21	#22
Gordie1 Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: England Posts: 6,317	Quote: Originally Posted by victor mel Do you have to back up photos and contacts on the phone or can you just update straight off? Mine just worked

16-03-2015, 21:11	#23
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	I'm one to avoid so called upgrades, but not having returned off all the advanced google settings that you don't really need often accounts for a decrease

16-03-2015, 22:00	#24
Synthetic42 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,510	Mine seems to be the only one that's working fine

17-03-2015, 18:30	#25
Swipe Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2001 Posts: 6,183	Quote: Originally Posted by Synthetic42 Mine seems to be the only one that's working fine I've been putting mine off for the last few weeks but finally upgraded at the weekend. The constant pestering 10 times a day was driving me nuts. I have to say that I am pleasantly surprised with lollipop and have not had any problems.