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Nadia. How she was perceived by some.
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Matt_Maher
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by loopyluna:
“As Patsy called the crowd "idiots in anoraks"”


She's got a point. I can't for the life of me understand why anyone would want to go and stand outside in a crowd of people just to see C-list celebrities enter and leave a house.
bootyache
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by LurkingGood:
“It's pointless asking for other people's opinion, you need to, somehow, watch the first 10 - 12 days and make up your own mind.
IMO she came across as a nosey, OTT, busy-body.”


BIB. No it's not.

Is the 10-12 days a cut off point because I mentioned it?

I have done a lot of catch up on YT and C5 clips in here though and still can't work out a lot of the negative comments in this forum during the show. So, I will kindly ask for opinions in the hope of learning more.

And I love reading other people's opinions.
Flora_McDonald
21-02-2015
I applaud those who took a stand against Ken. He was a revolting sex pest in my opinion. It's hard for those who haven't been on the receiving end of such behaviour to understand how deeply humiliating and demeaning it is, and the cruelty and callous attitude of people who mete out that type of treatment. They know exactly what they are doing, and get a spiteful pleasure out of it.

The entire house should have stood up for the women Ken was targeting. Bear in mind that we only see a small fraction of the day's action. I think it is a matter of shame that the only man who had the guts to take the issue up with Ken was Perez. The rest should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Good on Nadia and others who took him to task, and shame on anyone who feels that it wasn't the place of mature/male housemates to protect younger women from a dirty old pervert. BB hadn't taken action which put a stop to it, so why shouldn't Nadia report him to the police? If what he was doing isn't a criminal offence, then the law should be changed to make it one. I personally would be furious if I had been subjected to that sort of thing at work.
Flora_McDonald
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Yeah, so level headed that she actually wanted to call the police on a 70 year old bloke who made a few crude remarks in the house. ”

Good for Nadia. No-one should put up with this type of behaviour at work or anywhere else. The guy was a loathsome sex pest. What has his age got to do with anything? It is all the more reason why he should know better, since he's had 70 years to grow up and deal with his misogynism.
anne_666
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Captain Kipper:
“Yeah, so level headed that she actually wanted to call the police on a 70 year old bloke who made a few crude remarks in the house. ”

You think she really meant that I take it?

I say they were asking for it, going around half clothed. Asking for it I say!

Silly Chloe getting herself all upset when she should have bitten the bullet as Jeremy has "influence" according to the wise dirty old raincoat, sexist Ken. Touchy feely, it's all for the greater good
Using two bricks on him would have been a better idea than following him into the garden.
Sleazy Ken did exactly what he's always been know for and that's probably why he was hired.
I liked Nadia before and for many years, got a bit irritated by her trying to sort out the pains in the arse in the early stages, then liked her again, very much. As she said the fights were endless and anything to try to calm them down and get some peace, especially at bed time. She was also regarded by some of the others as a mother figure as she is very kind and older. Nothing unique, it happens naturally in any communal living situation. I loved her friendship and loyalty to Perez. It's just a shame that more C5 clips of having a laugh weren't in the main show. Misery, controversy and bullying is the BB manipulated agenda. When someone is liked by most HM's it speaks volumes.
Even the unmentionable one had a grudging respect as there was no getting the better of Nadia.
molliepops
21-02-2015
Loved Nadia in the house didn't really know her from much before she made a couple of mistakes which being human is only to be expected, her call the police comment was OTT but I don't think she really meant it any more than others meant what they said at times.
Ken was not a nice man and I believe the others encouraged her to take him on and all she did was to protect the younger ladies. Little did she know what they were like though and her protection was not appreciated.

Seeing her on CBB has made me curious and I have started watching her on loose women, she comes across as a lovely person and takes all the criticism of her time in the house firmly on the chin and is able to laugh at herself, something I find quite endearing.
Matt_Maher
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“Good for Nadia. No-one should put up with this type of behaviour at work or anywhere else. The guy was a loathsome sex pest.”



Just as well he didn't threaten to rape someone, gyrate around in his pants whilst making sex noises and making everyone uncomfortable, lick someone's face, advise young girls to act like lesbians.
I mean nobody in their right mind would do that would they?.......
anne_666
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“I applaud those who took a stand against Ken. He was a revolting sex pest in my opinion. It's hard for those who haven't been on the receiving end of such behaviour to understand how deeply humiliating and demeaning it is, and the cruelty and callous attitude of people who mete out that type of treatment. They know exactly what they are doing, and get a spiteful pleasure out of it.

The entire house should have stood up for the women Ken was targeting. Bear in mind that we only see a small fraction of the day's action. I think it is a matter of shame that the only man who had the guts to take the issue up with Ken was Perez. The rest should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Good on Nadia and others who took him to task, and shame on anyone who feels that it wasn't the place of mature/male housemates to protect younger women from a dirty old pervert. BB hadn't taken action which put a stop to it, so why shouldn't Nadia report him to the police? If what he was doing isn't a criminal offence, then the law should be changed to make it one. I personally would be furious if I had been subjected to that sort of thing at work.”

I agree and regarding Perez, yes good for him. Although we also have to bear in mind what we don't see regarding that too. I also don't think Nadia was being serious but I can imagine the bloody frustration of dealing with the sleaze would drive anyone to saying something like that. Why did BB ever think they could put that in a house to share living quarters with females? Did the young women know his history? I would have been demanding a lockable private room
xXxAnneAxXx
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Just as well he didn't threaten to rape someone, gyrate around in his pants whilst making sex noises and making everyone uncomfortable, lick someone's face, advise young girls to act like lesbians.
I mean nobody in their right mind would do that would they?.......”

That ole 'rape threat' thing again Matt.
10/10 for perseverence even though you did say in another post that you agreed it wasn't a rape threat.
Gotta love DS
bootyache
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Just as well he didn't threaten to rape someone, gyrate around in his pants whilst making sex noises and making everyone uncomfortable,lick someone's face, advise young girls to act like lesbians.
I mean nobody in their right mind would do that would they?.......”


BIB. 1. No doubt if someone did, they would be arrested.

BIB. 2. I read in here that in a previous BB that was a task given to the H/Ms by BB.

As regards the rest, I've seen things like this before on BB.

The BB production team and all previous H/Ms from BB must be all out of their minds.
planets
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by xXxAnneAxXx:
“That ole 'rape threat' thing again Matt.
10/10 for perseverence even though you did say in another post that you agreed it wasn't a rape threat.
Gotta love DS ”

it's funny isn't it? i wonder if it's like tourettes or something?
xXxAnneAxXx
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by planets:
“it's funny isn't it? i wonder if it's like tourettes or something?”

Matt_Maher
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by xXxAnneAxXx:
“That ole 'rape threat' thing again Matt.
10/10 for perseverence even though you did say in another post that you agreed it wasn't a rape threat.
Gotta love DS ”


Yeah I clearly explained that already, but I'm using it again because I know others would in the same situation.
*token patronizing smiley face*
lynzee
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Yeah I clearly explained that already, but I'm using it again because I know others would in the same situation.
*token patronizing smiley face*”

It needs to be in a few more threads though as it is missing in some. If its used often enough someone may take it seriously.
molliepops
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Yeah I clearly explained that already, but I'm using it again because I know others would in the same situation.
*token patronizing smiley face*”

I think that is more commonly known as baiting Matt..
xXxAnneAxXx
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Yeah I clearly explained that already, but I'm using it again because I know others would in the same situation.
*token patronizing smiley face*”

Eh? Doesn't make sense but whatever
Matt_Maher
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by molliepops:
“I think that is more commonly known as baiting Matt..”


The patronizing smiley face?
Yes I agree.
anne_666
21-02-2015
Originally Posted by Matt_Maher:
“Yeah I clearly explained that already, but I'm using it again because I know others would in the same situation.
*token patronizing smiley face*”

What same situation?
summertime09
22-02-2015
I think Keith explained It perfectly when he said Nadia was the catalyst for Perezs behaviour! Also when Nadia said she would have been horrified if a man said to a woman what Perez said to Calum, yet she thought it quite acceptable and funny!! pretty much sums up my problem with Nadia.
Angie_Plasty
22-02-2015
Originally Posted by Flora_McDonald:
“I applaud those who took a stand against Ken. He was a revolting sex pest in my opinion. It's hard for those who haven't been on the receiving end of such behaviour to understand how deeply humiliating and demeaning it is, and the cruelty and callous attitude of people who mete out that type of treatment. They know exactly what they are doing, and get a spiteful pleasure out of it.

The entire house should have stood up for the women Ken was targeting. Bear in mind that we only see a small fraction of the day's action. I think it is a matter of shame that the only man who had the guts to take the issue up with Ken was Perez. The rest should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. Good on Nadia and others who took him to task, and shame on anyone who feels that it wasn't the place of mature/male housemates to protect younger women from a dirty old pervert. BB hadn't taken action which put a stop to it, so why shouldn't Nadia report him to the police? If what he was doing isn't a criminal offence, then the law should be changed to make it one. I personally would be furious if I had been subjected to that sort of thing at work.”

Well said I agree with every word. Nadia and Perez should be applauded.

Who would have stood up to him otherwise? Champion of the underdog Michelle, who told Morley she "got his sense of humour" and let him get on with it? Or maybe "gentleman" Calum, who didn't give a stuff, the same way he didn't give a stuff when Jeremy exposed Chloe. He even defended Jeremy saying, "But he thought she had a bathing suit on under her robe!"

And Morley's got plenty of form, though of course he hides behind the usual "but we were all sex offenders back then" defence.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbi...ed-women-1980s
Penny Crayon
22-02-2015
Originally Posted by Angie_Plasty:
“Well said I agree with every word. Nadia and Perez should be applauded.

Who would have stood up to him otherwise? Champion of the underdog Michelle, who told Morley she "got his sense of humour" and let him get on with it? Or maybe "gentleman" Calum, who didn't give a stuff, the same way he didn't give a stuff when Jeremy exposed Chloe. He even defended Jeremy saying, "But he thought she had a bathing suit on under her robe!"

And Morley's got plenty of form, though of course he hides behind the usual "but we were all sex offenders back then" defence.

http://www.express.co.uk/news/showbi...ed-women-1980s”


I hadn't seen that ^^ Dear God
Bunions
22-02-2015
Originally Posted by Penny Crayon:
“I hadn't seen that ^^ Dear God ”

Me neither.

Dirty old bastard...........isn't even ashamed to admit it.
TwoDeadFlies
23-02-2015
Originally Posted by kravchic:
“I love her. I can't see what's not to like. I do get what people have said about her being OTT, bossy and interfering, but I only saw that in some of her interactions with Ken, Jeremy had already been booted by the time I started watching so never saw how she dealt with the Chloe boob grabbing issue., ok she may have arguably put a foot wrong when dealing with Ken, but imo she redeemed herself when she courageously went against the crowd in support of her genuine ( in my eyes), friendship with Perez. She demonstrated strength of character, loyalty, that makes her my kind of person. Anyone would be lucky to have her as a friend.”

I totally agree with you. Nadia is an amazing person.

I've been really surprised by what people have written about her.

What's impressive, obviously, is that she never made decisions based on what would make her popular but always went with her heart. Many of the others were constantly trying to gauge who was the most popular with the crowd and how they would be perceived but Nadia never wavered or doubted what her heart was telling her.

She was definitely one of the most intelligent housemates. I laughed out loud at some of the other housemates, such as poor Kav, angrily using the term 'left-wing' as some kind of derogatory put-down. They'd heard it from Hopkins who herself appeared to think left-wing meant two-faced. This was hilarious. There were so few housemates in there, I imagine, who could hold an in-depth discussion about subjects, concepts and ideas beyond anything that related to themselves or their immediate environment. I suspect this was one of the many reasons why she got along so well with Perez.

Nadia had the highest level of psychological mindedness too. This made her exit interview the most interesting because she was able to describe her experience as both an observer and the experiencer. I only watched it quite recently and I'm still intrigued by what she said.

She's just an all-around, smart, beautiful and lovely person, really.
molliepops
23-02-2015
Originally Posted by Bunions:
“Me neither.

Dirty old bastard...........isn't even ashamed to admit it.”

Does it ever make anyone else wonder why BB producers put people like that in ? it's not TV gold it just makes people either uncomfortable (women in the house) it doesn't change the person doing the behaviour at all. So why do they do it ?
bootyache
23-02-2015
Originally Posted by summertime09:
“I think Keith explained It perfectly when he said Nadia was the catalyst for Perezs behaviour! Also when Nadia said she would have been horrified if a man said to a woman what Perez said to Calum, yet she thought it quite acceptable and funny!! pretty much sums up my problem with Nadia.”


This is what I don't get.

Nadia was shown telling Perez that his comment to Callum in the row was wrong. I don't see how that means Nadia found it "funny and acceptable"
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