Hello
I have identified a 3 mast near my home on sitefinder, however its UMTS, isnt that 3g?
I have identified a 3 mast near my home on sitefinder, however its UMTS, isnt that 3g?
My 3 4G signal - where is that mast?
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Originally Posted by Synthetic42:
“It is, that site hasn't been updated in years and won't be any time soon I can't imagine”
“It is, that site hasn't been updated in years and won't be any time soon I can't imagine”
Hey
Hmm, whats the code for 4g on the mast details?
You wont see any 4G details on that site, not sure when it was last updated but it was before any network's rollout started.
If you tweet Three they might be able to tell you which mast should be serving your postcode, they certainly have done for me in the past.
Or if you're in a more rural location (that doesn't just show blanket coverage) you can look at the coverage map and see where the coverage is originating from (strongest)
If you tweet Three they might be able to tell you which mast should be serving your postcode, they certainly have done for me in the past.
Or if you're in a more rural location (that doesn't just show blanket coverage) you can look at the coverage map and see where the coverage is originating from (strongest)
Originally Posted by Synthetic42:
“You wont see any 4G details on that site, not sure when it was last updated but it was before any network's rollout started.
If you tweet Three they might be able to tell you which mast should be serving your postcode, they certainly have done for me in the past.
Or if you're in a more rural location (that doesn't just show blanket coverage) you can look at the coverage map and see where the coverage is originating from (strongest)”
“You wont see any 4G details on that site, not sure when it was last updated but it was before any network's rollout started.
If you tweet Three they might be able to tell you which mast should be serving your postcode, they certainly have done for me in the past.
Or if you're in a more rural location (that doesn't just show blanket coverage) you can look at the coverage map and see where the coverage is originating from (strongest)”
I have asked Three. When will sitefinder update?
The site they have told me are different to whats on sitefinder, I.e OXF123 on sitefinder - Three say OXD123
Three won't be updating Sitefinder. If an android phone download LTE Dicovery, it will give you a rough location of the mast.
Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan:
“Three won't be updating Sitefinder. If an android phone download LTE Dicovery, it will give you a rough location of the mast.”
“Three won't be updating Sitefinder. If an android phone download LTE Dicovery, it will give you a rough location of the mast.”
I tried that too, the mast location never shows up on the map. Also, they show no band details for Three masts.
Originally Posted by lamby:
“I have asked Three. When will sitefinder update?”
“I have asked Three. When will sitefinder update?”
As I already said, that site isn't being updated anymore
Originally Posted by lamby:
“I tried that too, the mast location never shows up on the map. Also, they show no band details for Three masts.”
“I tried that too, the mast location never shows up on the map. Also, they show no band details for Three masts.”
You have to log a few masts before it starts to learn the different masts and bands.
Are you able to get into the service mode screen by dialing *#0011# ?
If so take a screen shot when on that mast and send it and a debug email to the developer, they will update the APK to show your masts general location. Much quicker than having to log several masts. Band info will show up after logging a few.
Right, according to Three my nearest mast is 0.8 miles away. Wish they updated the maps 
At work i am not too far from the mast, yet i dont get 4G. If i go other side of the building away from the area i get 4G :s
At work i am not too far from the mast, yet i dont get 4G. If i go other side of the building away from the area i get 4G :s
According to OFCOM, sitefinder was last updated in May 2012, with some stopping the updates as early as 2005. Make of that what you will lol
Originally Posted by mrMick:
“According to OFCOM, sitefinder was last updated in May 2012, with some stopping the updates as early as 2005. Make of that what you will lol”
“According to OFCOM, sitefinder was last updated in May 2012, with some stopping the updates as early as 2005. Make of that what you will lol”
God im out of time, why did they decide to stop updating the map?
I think it was because they didn't want each other knowing where their masts were, although it's pretty obvious as most of them wont have moved location, only new ones will be missing and they still wouldn't be hard to find.
I know round here o2 put big stickers on their cabs saying call o2 on this number with any issues etc
I know round here o2 put big stickers on their cabs saying call o2 on this number with any issues etc
Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan:
“You have to log a few masts before it starts to learn the different masts and bands.
Are you able to get into the service mode screen by dialing *#0011# ?
If so take a screen shot when on that mast and send it and a debug email to the developer, they will update the APK to show your masts general location. Much quicker than having to log several masts. Band info will show up after logging a few.”
“You have to log a few masts before it starts to learn the different masts and bands.
Are you able to get into the service mode screen by dialing *#0011# ?
If so take a screen shot when on that mast and send it and a debug email to the developer, they will update the APK to show your masts general location. Much quicker than having to log several masts. Band info will show up after logging a few.”
What part of the screen to i show?
I am using an Nexus 5.
Originally Posted by lamby:
“God im out of time, why did they decide to stop updating the map?”
“God im out of time, why did they decide to stop updating the map?”
It was because it was voluntary, not mandatory for the operators to update it, and T-mobile had an argument with Ofcom and refused to keep updating it, then they and Three entered into MBNL and it continued not to be updated by T-mobile, then when they became EE the same, so you ended up with it only being updated by some operators.
Quite frankly it's bloody daft and very childish.
It's like going back to the 80s where Vodafone and Cellnet were accused of taking angle grinders to each others masts Haha
I mean, come on... seriously? The operators don't know where each others masts are? Bulls**t!
If we can find the bloody things I think they can.
Ofcom should make it mandatory but they don't have the balls.
Now all networks are going to be erecting single masts, sticking all their services on them and sharing the cost as part of the Not Spot issue.
Angle grinder isn't going to help there is it! Hahaha
It's like going back to the 80s where Vodafone and Cellnet were accused of taking angle grinders to each others masts Haha
I mean, come on... seriously? The operators don't know where each others masts are? Bulls**t!
If we can find the bloody things I think they can.
Ofcom should make it mandatory but they don't have the balls.
Now all networks are going to be erecting single masts, sticking all their services on them and sharing the cost as part of the Not Spot issue.
Angle grinder isn't going to help there is it! Hahaha
There are industry databases I think, just not published ones that are up to date.
Ofcom doesn't legislate, they just have regulatory powers based around the Communications Act 2002 and some other legislation which gives them certain powers. They are there to make sure we make best use of public radio spectrum and act in the interests of consumers around communication regulation.
They could potentially write something into the licence about publishing mast locations, but there's no such requirement today.
Ofcom doesn't legislate, they just have regulatory powers based around the Communications Act 2002 and some other legislation which gives them certain powers. They are there to make sure we make best use of public radio spectrum and act in the interests of consumers around communication regulation.
They could potentially write something into the licence about publishing mast locations, but there's no such requirement today.
I guess it's only us techies that want to know but since it's our hard earned cash that is paying for them to be erected, shouldn't we know where they are and what technology is being used?
Originally Posted by DevonBloke:
“I guess it's only us techies that want to know but since it's our hard earned cash that is paying for them to be erected, shouldn't we know where they are and what technology is being used?”
“I guess it's only us techies that want to know but since it's our hard earned cash that is paying for them to be erected, shouldn't we know where they are and what technology is being used?”
Do you know where Virgin Media's datacentres are, should your hard earned money that you pay to any company mean that you get to know about their infrastructure. It's not as if it's tax payer money, apart from the MIP towers that are going to be funded by the government (that has so far been a complete disaster!)
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“Do you know where Virgin Media's datacentres are, should your hard earned money that you pay to any company mean that you get to know about their infrastructure.”
“Do you know where Virgin Media's datacentres are, should your hard earned money that you pay to any company mean that you get to know about their infrastructure.”
Only RF transmitters invade our space at home, and get inside our walls. Companies don't need a licence from Govt/Ofcom to buy a building and install servers and comms links. They do need a licence to transmit lots of watts of energy into the ether.
Sitefinder came out of the Stewart enquiry into phone health, and its a big shame nobody in Govt is holding the mobile-telcos to account to comply with the Stewart recommendations. Some might say Ofcom are toothless.
If they do that then every other radio transmission needs to follow the same rules, the police didn't like the Tetra locations being published and pulled them off the map. There are loads and loads of other radio transmissions that should follow the same requirement if they decide we do need a database and it has to be mandatory.
Originally Posted by Thine Wonk:
“If they do that then every other radio transmission needs to follow the same rules, the police didn't like the Tetra locations being published and pulled them off the map. There are loads and loads of other radio transmissions that should follow the same requirement if they decide we do need a database and it has to be mandatory.”
“If they do that then every other radio transmission needs to follow the same rules, the police didn't like the Tetra locations being published and pulled them off the map. There are loads and loads of other radio transmissions that should follow the same requirement if they decide we do need a database and it has to be mandatory.”
Thus the whole Stewart enquiry:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/744309.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/4163003.stm
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/09...n_controversy/
http://www.ofcom.org.uk/static/archi.../msc-00-18.htm
Perhaps time for a new / updated report, as most of the govt departments responsible (including NRPB) are long since defunct.
Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan:
“You have to log a few masts before it starts to learn the different masts and bands.
Are you able to get into the service mode screen by dialing *#0011# ?
If so take a screen shot when on that mast and send it and a debug email to the developer, they will update the APK to show your masts general location. Much quicker than having to log several masts. Band info will show up after logging a few.”
“You have to log a few masts before it starts to learn the different masts and bands.
Are you able to get into the service mode screen by dialing *#0011# ?
If so take a screen shot when on that mast and send it and a debug email to the developer, they will update the APK to show your masts general location. Much quicker than having to log several masts. Band info will show up after logging a few.”
The info I sent was incorrect and the examples they provided me look nothing like the Nexus mode.
So the other way around this is to log cells?
What happens to this data?
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