I like Shirley, Mick and Tina. Dean makes a good villain aswell. I also quite like Linda and Stan. The Carter's were much better when they first came in, because they were a much smaller unit and they were much more likeable, they didn't hog the screen and they interacted well with the other characters and The Vic seemed more lively again. They are none of those things anymore... They're an overcrowded mess IMO and it's one miserable plot after another, with a big fat dollop of constant karaoke and parties, on top of it all. They've been done to death and it's boring now IMO!. Kat and Alfie were underused in The Vic and The Carter's are way too overused.

I think the only reason a lot of people have warmed to The Carter's is because they are related to Shirley. If it wasn't for Shirley, I don't think they'd have fitted in at all. Shirley has been there for almost a decade and it was nice seeing her backstory and her family being introduced, but it's got a bit stale now and it hasn't worked out well in the long run.

I liked it too. Elaine should remain recurring though. She's one of those that wi be ok in small doses but ott and irrating full time.

NO!!! That's an awful idea! Just far too panto! Unfortunately I can see DTC putting them together in cheesy scenes. It would be like a scene from a drag queen night in a gay bar dahling!

I actually think it would be quite funny!.

It is such a shame that last weeks anniversary episodes were so brilliant, and this weeks episodes have gone back to being The Carter Show again. It has really spoiled the live week aftermath for me.

Could not agree more. Every second scene is a Carter scene now. What a let done after the brilliance of the live week.

Well I liked it. I wish that I could sing as good as her. She is a singer anyway and has played in several theatre shows. See this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maria_Friedman

She went for it again tonight...

Well done Stan for doing the nation a favourite and pulling the plug out! *Crowd claps*.

Totally understand why they'd want to make the most of having a singer like Maria Friedman in the cast, but I think having her sing also makes her character a bit less realistic. Not because 'ordinary' people like Elaine can't sing, but because it highlights Maria as herself rather than as Elaine. It's like if Peggy started coming out with Carry On jokes.

Didn't mind it though, as a token song it was quite sweet. I like the Carters and agree cheesiness is part of their charm. Mick and Linda are the childhood sweethearts who never really grew up (in a sense) until they were recently forced to, so it's nice to see they're still as strong as ever. Do agree they need a bit of a break though.

Hated it, I had to mute the volume and stare at the ceiling fur a few moments.

There are a lot if cringe moments with the Carter family.

It's either 100% pure depressing misery or 100% cheeseball cringe.

Anyone remember which song she sang in the Vic??? I have been looking but can't find anything and I can't remember....

Wasn't it "The first time ever I saw your face"? I don't knlw if that's the name of the song but they're the lyrics lol.

Please do not revive old threads - it is VERY irritating.

Aaah yes!! Loooool! That was it; thanks BadLad...x

It actually makes more sense and what the mods ask you to do which is why I didn't start a whole new thread on a topic which has already be raised.