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Italy Amazon Lists Adele's 25 and then Pulled it
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IsThisHappiness
10-03-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“They like what they are told obviously. Seeing as her debut 19 was nowhere near as successful.”

This makes no sense whatsoever!
Littlegreen42
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by IsThisHappiness:
“This makes no sense whatsoever!”

Because her debut got hardly any promo and wasn't held in high regard, therefore people didn't seem to buy the album. Even though it's of higher standard than 21.
Hav_mor91
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“Because her debut got hardly any promo and wasn't held in high regard, therefore people didn't seem to buy the album. Even though it's of higher standard than 21.”

Mhhhhhm I agree with you it is better but... 2 grammys top ten stateside, critically praisd, inagral critics choice and double platinum. And lastly it was make you feel my love on x factor that put 19 back on the charts and led tge way for 21 followed by the brits so yeah.
Rocketpop
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by Hav_mor91:
“Mhhhhhm I agree with you it is better but... 2 grammys top ten stateside, critically praisd, inagral critics choice and double platinum. And lastly it was make you feel my love on x factor that put 19 back on the charts and led tge way for 21 followed by the brits so yeah.”

Another who owes their career to Dylan then
walterwhite
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by Littlegreen42:
“Because her debut got hardly any promo and wasn't held in high regard, therefore people didn't seem to buy the album. Even though it's of higher standard than 21.”

19 has sold 2m copies in the UK which makes it one of the highest selling albums of the last 7 years, hardly a dud.

As for being a better album, that is completely subjective, but Metacritic has 21 with a higher score.
twells
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by walterwhite:
“19 has sold 2m copies in the UK which makes it one of the highest selling albums of the last 7 years, hardly a dud.

As for being a better album, that is completely subjective, but Metacritic has 21 with a higher score.”

Yes, but that's as of now, isn't it? How much did it sell before "21" hit the market? Obviously, anything with Adele's name on it got a big boost with the enormous success of 21.

Having said that I believe "19" won Adele a Grammy, although don't remember what category
NScot
11-03-2015
Adele was nominated for 4 Grammys for 19 and won two, she's now won 10 of them.

Don't really see the 19's sales comparisons, Many artists start with a low selling 1st album and the build up. Madonna is one of them, once Like A Virgin was released her 1st album sales took of, Many many more can be listed,
Hav_mor91
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by Rocketpop:
“Another who owes their career to Dylan then ”

Haha not so much her career but definitely renewed interest . And as others have stated 19 was not a flop was it as astronomical as 21 no but it still sold over 800K in America something Brits were not doing in 08 save for a few and over 2m WW with grammy's to boot which gives even less grounds to littlegreens assertions.
walterwhite
11-03-2015
Originally Posted by twells:
“Yes, but that's as of now, isn't it? How much did it sell before "21" hit the market? Obviously, anything with Adele's name on it got a big boost with the enormous success of 21.

Having said that I believe "19" won Adele a Grammy, although don't remember what category”

I don't know, but we're clutching at straws a bit now aren't we?
konebyvax
12-03-2015
Originally Posted by twells:
“Yes, but that's as of now, isn't it? How much did it sell before "21" hit the market? Obviously, anything with Adele's name on it got a big boost with the enormous success of 21.

Having said that I believe "19" won Adele a Grammy, although don't remember what category”


She won 2 Grammys - best new artist and best female pop vocal for Chasing Pavements. It's curious to witness the career progression of Adele and Duffy. Duffy's debut sold in much bigger numbers (initially and at the time) than Adele's but we all know what happened next. Why did Duffy's follow up album flop and Adele's become (arguably, in real terms given the age we live in) the biggest selling album ever? Could it REALLY be because we were TOLD we loved it? Absolute tosh, Adele's initial single releases were amazing and her live performances on high profile TV shows (especially The Brits) just backed up this view. It's funny, I haven't played '21' in ages but on youtube the other day I was linked to her singing Hometown Glory on Jools Holland so watched it. And realised AGAIN why she's had such subsequent massive success - primarily she's simply astounding live plus the songs on '21' (melancholy, sad, revelatory) caught the mood of the moment perfectly.

She obviously won't see again the success of '21' with any subsequent releases (what album in the future (by ANYONE could??) But she's a great artist and an amazing singer all the same.
pete137
12-03-2015
More ballads ?
andys corner
12-03-2015
i think she will drop the age theme soon, cant imagine in a few decades rushing to get a copy of '47'
shadesofblack
16-03-2015
Adele has a great singular voice and music that doesn't sound like the same crap that is constantly being cranked out. She crossed so many genres. Think another band or artist can do that? Some don't like her, sure. They weren't one of the 30 million that do. I'm guessing she's good with that.
Thank God she's working on new stuff, cause any more Sam or Taylor or Iggy or freaking Ariana, I'm going to check out f*ing country music. And no way will she do more then one or two songs with a country bent. More like Muscle Shoals tendencies, that I can see. So ready for this next era.
wizzywick
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by shadesofblack:
“Adele has a great singular voice and music that doesn't sound like the same crap that is constantly being cranked out. She crossed so many genres. Think another band or artist can do that? Some don't like her, sure. They weren't one of the 30 million that do. I'm guessing she's good with that.
Thank God she's working on new stuff, cause any more Sam or Taylor or Iggy or freaking Ariana, I'm going to check out f*ing country music. And no way will she do more then one or two songs with a country bent. More like Muscle Shoals tendencies, that I can see. So ready for this next era.”

I only just listened to Adele's 21 album. I avoided it when it was everywhere and anywhere because I don't like being caught up in the hype. Her voice! bloody hell, she can sing! i for one am looking forward to her return so she can put Sam "Adele male pretender" Smith back in his box. Come on Adele, show these newcomers how it's meant to be done.
shadesofblack
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“I only just listened to Adele's 21 album. I avoided it when it was everywhere and anywhere because I don't like being caught up in the hype. Her voice! bloody hell, she can sing! i for one am looking forward to her return so she can put Sam "Adele male pretender" Smith back in his box. Come on Adele, show these newcomers how it's meant to be done.”

Lol! Agreed! So you are one of those 7000 per week still buying 21! I love that! You know how good her voice sounds on the album? She sounds so much better live. It is incredible. If you get a chance, ever, see her live. Assuming she tours again. Dang. Guess those tickets will be more than the 65.00 I spent for front and center last time around. And no more House of Blues size venues. That's ok. I'd see her pretty much anywhere. Wonder if she will jump into stadiums next? Don't think she has a choice.
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