[Tariq_ali1]

ok click baiting slightly but it's what he says:

http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2015/...-mast-er-plan/

Good to hear commitment to MBNL
18 Mbps average 4g. Hmmmm

[nbrasso]

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Originally Posted by Tariq_ali1

ok click baiting slightly but it's what he says:

http://www.mobilenewscwp.co.uk/2015/...-mast-er-plan/

Good to hear commitment to MBNL
18 Mbps average 4g. Hmmmm

I completely disagree that 2mbps is enough, especially for high quality 1080p video streaming.

[jabbamk1]

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Originally Posted by nbrasso

I completely disagree that 2mbps is enough, especially for high quality 1080p video streaming.

"For most things"

[secretmsgs]

CEO is joking.

[enapace]

Even 720p HD Streaming would struggle on 2Mbps.

[Zee_Bukhari]

so if coverage is so important why have they discontinued plans to build a new mast in my town centre which is in London that struggles with coverage, no coverage indoors in majority of the stores and no coverage outdoors in many parts of the town.

Just because your speeds are crap at the moment doesn't mean 2Mbps is enough for everyone.

[Redcoat]

Heh Heh!

If O2's CEO came out with the same statement this thread would already be at least six pages long!

[SkipTracer]

I need at least 10 Mbs to watch 1080p HD on my 42” mobile phone.

[Everything Goes]

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Originally Posted by Redcoat

Heh Heh!

If O2's CEO came out with the same statement this thread would already be at least six pages long!

35k on GPRS is good enough for most things

[moox]

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Originally Posted by Redcoat

Heh Heh!

If O2's CEO came out with the same statement this thread would already be at least six pages long!

Vodafone's CEO sort of did: http://blog.vodafone.co.uk/2015/01/1...nd-the-future/

Although I remember the discussion at the time being over how piss poor their 3G/4G coverage is, so you're going to be getting 20kbit on GPRS or maybe 100kbit on EDGE in the few areas that have that turned on

[jaffboy151]

Merger/takeover aside for a moment.. I really can't see where three think they are going to in a few years time with this strategy, they are going to be left so far behind the likes of EE & Vodafone (if they bother to continue investment) certainly not the network that used to boast it was built for the internet a few years ago..

[WelshBluebird]

To be fair, he is right in that most people won't see any benefit of speeds above 2Mbps. Since most people tend to only use things like Spotify, Facebook, Youtube and web browsing. All of which are more than fine with 2Mbps.

The main issue (and he speaks about it in the interview) is reliability. Being able to get 2Mbps reliably is much more useful than being able to get 20Mbps one minute and 0.1Mbps the next.

Obviously the main issue is that in some places (generally more urban areas) Three's network is exactly that. Great one minute and awful the next. And of course, history never looks favorably on quotes of "x of whatever will be enough".

[mupet0000]

My guess is he said 2mbps is enough because that's the kind of speed we are going to see on congested 800MHz. While it may be enough to browse the internet, check facebook and twitter, it's certainly not enough to stream good quality video amongst other high data usage things.

Yesterday I was able to get some awesome speedtest results while inside on Three, best I've seen: http://i.imgur.com/dU6pvyS.png (fyi: the -101 in the corner is my dBm signal).

2mbps is defined as the minimum speed of broadband in the UK afaik, if that's what we end up with down the road, I wont be staying with Three. It should get better not worse.

[jchamier]

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Originally Posted by mupet0000

My guess is he said 2mbps is enough because that's the kind of speed we are going to see on congested 800MHz. While it may be enough to browse the internet, check facebook and twitter, it's certainly not enough to stream good quality video amongst other high data usage things..

Unless Three can buy some more spectrum, merging with O2 will mean lower speeds for all their customers. Jabba I think posted a couple of weeks ago that the merged entity will have the least amount of spectrum per end user than EE or Vodafone.

[moox]

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Originally Posted by jchamier

Unless Three can buy some more spectrum, merging with O2 will mean lower speeds for all their customers. Jabba I think posted a couple of weeks ago that the merged entity will have the least amount of spectrum per end user than EE or Vodafone.

Just limit the ex-O2 users to 50kbit/s with large amounts of packet loss, they're already used to it. Giffgaff users get 10kbit/s.

[enapace]

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Originally Posted by jchamier

Unless Three can buy some more spectrum, merging with O2 will mean lower speeds for all their customers. Jabba I think posted a couple of weeks ago that the merged entity will have the least amount of spectrum per end user than EE or Vodafone.

Err that's True but they they would have the best mix of low band and midband spectrum of any of the networks. Plus both O2 and 3 will be bidding for the 2300MHz TDD spectrum up for grabs later this year to give them some high band spectrum as well.

[Batch]

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Originally Posted by SkipTracer

I need at least 10 Mbs to watch 1080p HD on my 42” mobile phone.

Exactly! On a mobile phone what he says is fair enough IMO. As long as its fast enough to prevent "buffering", I'm not sure "most use" on a mobile is streaming though.

Mobile broadband/tethering is a different kettle of fish.

Tablets, well I'm not so sure 2 Mbps will cut it...

[Old Endeavour]

Why don't we go back to 56k dial up and carry a big box modem around with us, screeching away?

Or is that Three's next quarter mission statement?

Three will and IS falling behind every day. All those on the 2014 for 4G that just got dropped and never mentioned again - all lies! "Oh those ones will now be done in the first Q of 2015 - Bollocks!

[jchamier]

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Originally Posted by enapace

Err that's True but they they would have the best mix of low band and midband spectrum of any of the networks. Plus both O2 and 3 will be bidding for the 2300MHz TDD spectrum up for grabs later this year to give them some high band spectrum as well.

If they can repurpose some of the 2100 spectrum, that might help. The issue with 2300 will be that a lot of second hand devices won't support it - the bulk of hardware in the market today probably won't (maybe iPhone 6? Don't know about Galaxy S6).

[jaffboy151]

I totally agree that you don't need ridiculous speeds on a mobile network, there's no real need to stream 1080p quality on a mobile, even my galaxy note, you don't really need 720p if the sources is encoded properly. Around a reliable 10mbps would more the suffice and is equivalent or faster then many home broadband connections at present, trouble is as others have said three is rapidly falling behind other networks, the merger will do little to help this in the short to medium term, things are moving on from just having Internet when ever you have a phone signal, people now want reliable Internet connection wherever they go, weather your an urban or rural three customer unless your near an uncongested mast with good backhaul you will get a slow Internet connection with high latency, other networks what ever stage they are presently at are moving towards this, three is not, I'll sure everyone has a personal example but I'd simply like to be able to skip a track or 2 on Google play music without the fear that if I do I'll end up with a car full of silence whilst this buffer up at a snails pace.

[d123]

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Originally Posted by jchamier

If they can repurpose some of the 2100 spectrum, that might help. The issue with 2300 will be that a lot of second hand devices won't support it - the bulk of hardware in the market today probably won't (maybe iPhone 6? Don't know about Galaxy S6).

iPhone 6 does, a quick search doesn't show what the S6 supports, S5 (G900f) doesn't.

[jabbamk1]

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Originally Posted by mupet0000

My guess is he said 2mbps is enough because that's the kind of speed we are going to see on congested 800MHz. While it may be enough to browse the internet, check facebook and twitter, it's certainly not enough to stream good quality video amongst other high data usage things.

Yesterday I was able to get some awesome speedtest results while inside on Three, best I've seen: http://i.imgur.com/dU6pvyS.png (fyi: the -101 in the corner is my dBm signal).

2mbps is defined as the minimum speed of broadband in the UK afaik, if that's what we end up with down the road, I wont be staying with Three. It should get better not worse.

Your guess has nothing to do with the article which im sure you haven't read.

People jump to conclusions way too quickly on this forum

[jaffboy151]

That's the whole purpose of forums though surely, discussion of rumour, sources of information and people opinion on these topics, if not it would just be a bulletin board of official press releases with no one but industry professionals authorised to comment on them...

[nafanny29]

2Mpbs is good enough for most things, but with low latency and a rock solid connection. Its the latency and jittery connection that lets down mobile internet all the time, even on 4G.

[Chris1973]

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Three CEO: "2 Mbps is enough for most things"

2mbps enough eh? in that case I Can't wait for them to double the speed here in Congleton .

http://s7.postimg.org/jdydouypn/Scre...5_14_00_14.png

I wonder what his thoughts are on ping times?!