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CS-Is Emily Homophobic
Is she homophobic. Wasn't she against Sophie and Sian too.
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No I don't think she is homophobic but because of her age and her beliefs she probably finds it hard to understand. She was fairly nice to Sophie and Sian though
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No, it's a misunderstanding. Being a traditionalist, she's not keen on Billy's radically modern ideas for the church which Sean wrongly interprets as her being anti-gay. I think he ends up having a go at her before she puts him right. TBH I don't disagree with Emily. A 'church comedy night' sounds bloody awful to me
![]() BTW Emily eventually accepted Sophie and Sian's relationship IIRC. |
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No, it's a misunderstanding. Being a traditionalist, she's not keen on Billy's radically modern ideas for the church which Sean wrongly interprets as her being anti-gay. I think he ends up having a go at her before she puts him right. TBH I don't disagree with Emily. A 'church comedy night' sounds bloody awful to me
![]() BTW Emily eventually accepted Sophie and Sian's relationship IIRC.
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As if Emily was going to understand the indie reference
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I don't think Emily is homophobic, maybe just a little traditional in how she views Church fund raising events. And to be fair to her, if most of the church goers are elderly, they will prefer a bring and buy sale or baking competition to a concert or comedy night.
However, Sean is so self obsessed and ready to take offence that he'll assume anybody that doesn't seem keen on his or Billy's ideas will do so because of homophobia |
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Do you remember Emily's scene in the Kabin "What exactly is a ladyboy".
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she's old and Christian, so yes she is
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Emily should not be made to feel bad for her beliefs are either
Who's to say who's right or wrong |
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Most old people are, its ignorance more than anything.
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Why not just say she is
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she's old and Christian, so yes she is
It's all about ignorance. It makes me so angry when people hide behind their religion as an excuse to be homophobic. If you don't agree with two men or two women being together, that is fine. But don't give me the classic "because the bible tells me so" or "it's against my beliefs" because to me that is invalid. |
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She very clearly is not homophobic.
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she's old and Christian, so yes she is
Whilst religion and homosexuality will always be a tenuous subject, I think that in this instance, she is irritated more by the vicar's ideas for the church as well as the VILE Sean pushing his way into the fold and making it all about him (as usual!) |
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LOL what a sweeping statement that is! By those standards my Grandmother should have drown me in the bath when I told her I was gay then? She was the most committed Christian I knew.
Whilst religion and homosexuality will always be a tenuous subject, I think that in this instance, she is irritated more by the vicar's ideas for the church as well as the VILE Sean pushing his way into the fold and making it all about him (as usual!) I know plenty of people in their 80s or older (my great aunt died aged 99 last week), most of whom are still religious and none of whom have ever shown any evidence of homophobia. My best friend from school is gay, my whole family) including my Grandad who was born in 1907) knew from when we were teenagers and have always welcomed him with open arms. You can't judge a whole generation, religious or not in such a way. Emily just thinks it is not the best way of raising money for the Chirch - stick in her ways from that point of view perhaps, nothing to do with being a bigot. And Sean isn't a Christian, he's just bibbling in because he has this need to be joined at the hip to his boyfriend and maybe she finds an interloper butting in to a community group she has devoted decades of her life to annoying as she would if Billy was dating someone like Eva that wanted to change everything. |
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The problem is that shouldn't be a reason to be homophobic though
It's all about ignorance. It makes me so angry when people hide behind their religion as an excuse to be homophobic. If you don't agree with two men or two women being together, that is fine. But don't give me the classic "because the bible tells me so" or "it's against my beliefs" because to me that is invalid. She only has a problem with Billy's eagerness to modernise the church. |
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she's old and Christian, so yes she is
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Most old people are, its ignorance more than anything.
![]() ![]() And they say Christians are bigots? !
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Well your argument is kind of irrelevant to this thread, as it has already been established that Emily isn't homophobic.
She only has a problem with Billy's eagerness to modernise the church. |
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![]() ![]() And they say Christians are bigots? ! ![]() Labelling a whole community (Christian and/or Old) as sharing the same views is as bigoted as others having an intrinsic hatred and fear of homosexuality. |
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Emily isn't homophobic, no way. She's an elderly lady who wants the church to stick to traditional fund-raising events.
My Nan and Grandad were accepting of me being gay. Both didn't live long sadly (65 and 77). |
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Lets not beat around the bush here, we saw her face when Sophie was outed as a lezzer
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It seems to be agreed that Emily is not homophobic.
However even if being around homosexuals did make her uncomfortable that would not make her necessarily homophobic. |
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Emily should not be made to feel bad for her beliefs are either
Who's to say who's right or wrong Whoever is homophobic is wrong.Having said that I didn't think Emily was being homophobic, I think she just didn't like the Vicar's ideas and was irritated with him. I'm certainly not homophobic and he REALLY irritates me. On a side note I keep thinking what if Sean and the vicar ever have a serious story line ![]() Clearly it can never happen.
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Urgh excuse me, who died and made you god of the forum. You have no right to label my post or anyone's irrelevant. I am talking from a view point in general, not Emily being a homophobe. It isn't irelevant because my post was about homophobia, and the word homophobic was used in the title. Your not a mod, so don't call the shots around here.
![]() That's exactly my point! Go look up "irrelevant". This thread asked if Emily was a homophobe and it's been clearly stated that she's not - so why are you going on about people using religion as an excuse to be homophobic when it obviously doesn't apply to the character being discussed in this thread?? |
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Whoever is homophobic is wrong.Having said that I didn't think Emily was being homophobic, I think she just didn't like the Vicar's ideas and was irritated with him. I'm certainly not homophobic and he REALLY irritates me. On a side note I keep thinking what if Sean and the vicar ever have a serious story line ![]() Clearly it can never happen. |
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Whoever is homophobic is wrong.
Clearly it can never happen.