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Artists who slag off their own work/albums
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Fanntastik
12-03-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“Oh God! I hated the Reinvention version of Holiday. It was so dull. I much preferred the Music Sounds Better With You version she used on Drowned World.”

That Drowned World version of Holiday is my favourite version of the song. I like it more than the original.
Sifter22
12-03-2015
Noel's always called Be Here Now 'A product of its time'.
montyburns56
12-03-2015
I remember how many years ago that Lee Mavers of The La's was slagging his own band's debut album even as they were promoting it!
kirbyreed
13-03-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“Lana seems to have disowned Ultraviolence.”

I don't know why because that album was stunning. Cruel World in particular is amazing.
ScottishWoody
14-03-2015
Lily Allen practically called her newest album a crock of shit.
Semierotic
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by Tejas:
“Chris Martin has been quite harsh on Coldplay's third album 'X&Y' at times and they only tend to play one song ('Fix You') from it live.”

He's right to hate that album, it's shite. Totally trying to cash in on the stadium formula of Rush of Blood without nearly the same success.
Derek Faye
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by ScottishWoody:
“Lily Allen practically called her newest album a crock of shit.”

yes and that was like a week after the album came out lol tbh she has a point.

There's about three songs on her album that were good, 'URL Badman' and 'Miserable without your love'. I liked 'hard out here'
Hav_mor91
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by Derek Faye:
“yes and that was like a week after the album came out lol tbh she has a point.

There's about three songs on her album that were good, 'URL Badman' and 'Miserable without your love'. I liked 'hard out here'”

I've always felt with that album the label got far too involved songs like Air Balloon, Our time, L8 cmer decent enough but don't hold up to the better songs and overall it's a messy album not helped by the campaign.
Arcana
14-03-2015
Florian Schneider described the first 3 Kraftwerk albums as 'archaeology' which amused me.
unclekevo
14-03-2015
IIRC, Stooshe were quite open about their dislike of the 'Waterfalls' cover they did and when the album was delayed it was taken off the tracklist
glyn9799
14-03-2015
Originally Posted by ScottishWoody:
“Lily Allen practically called her newest album a crock of shit.”

And as a fan this really pisses me off, because I love that album.
Kodaz
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by wizzywick:
“[Madonna said] "Like a Virgin and Cherish are two retarded songs, but for some reason my fans love them!"”

I didn't like "Like a Virgin" when it came out, and I still don't.

It's horribly underproduced and lifeless. And it's really just not that good or catchy a song at all.

I never got why it seemed to be such a big deal in pop culture. My guess is that this has as much to do with it being emblematic of a time Madonna started moving beyond being just another successful singer into the global star we would later know, cementing aspects of her image that she became famous for.

As a song in its own right? Mehhhhh......
Kodaz
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by Sifter22:
“Noel's always called Be Here Now 'A product of its time'.”

The time that Britpop finally came off the rails, perhaps. The time that it (and they) got co-opted and absorbed into its own bastard offspring, the nauseatingly jingoistic Cool Britannia, smooching with that **** Tony Blair, and Geri Halliwell jumping around in a Union Jack dress.

The time that Oasis had done far too much cocaine, got lazy and self-indulgent, and the energy and attitude that drove their first two albums (*) had descended into bloated arrogance.

Sounds about right.

(*) Which covered up the fact that even *those* were pretty derivative rock music. That, coupled with the fact that they were in the right place at the right time for a 60s/70s-inspired band to seem new and inspiring to a youth market which grew up in the polished-production-80s, yet distant enough from those old bands to be "theirs".
dodrade
15-03-2015
I've always disliked artists promoting a new album by essentially slagging off their previous one i.e. "this album is darker and more mature than our last", and thereby insulting the fans who bought it.

There are plenty of artists who come to dislike some of their songs but they ought to keep it to themselves out of respect to the fans who do like them and have made them successful.
alienghost
15-03-2015
LeAnn Rimes disowned her I Need You album soon after it was released, as it was essentially a compilation made up of songs from soundtracks, such as the ones she did for Coyote Ugly, her Elton John duet, B-sides and cast-offs from other albums, and was only released as a contractual obligation.
Lewnaticc
15-03-2015
Mariah doesn't allow people around her to talk about Glitter, stating the 'G' word is banned.
She has also stated that she doesn't like a few of her older works, such as Someday and Forever, but I think that is more an inclination about the lack of creative control she had.
TrebleKing
15-03-2015
David Bowie slags off and disowns quite a lot of his material. Lets Dance and Tonight in particular, and Never Let Me Down to an extent.


Quote:
“A year later, while working with Tin Machine on their second album, he mused on his previous few albums: "You can tell I was terribly unhappy in the late '80s. ... I was in that netherworld of commercial acceptance. It was an awful trip. 1983, '84, '85, '86, '87 - those five years were simply dreadful. ... Never Let Me Down had good songs that I mistreated. I didn't really apply myself. I wasn't quite sure what I was supposed to be doing. I wish there had been someone around who could have told me."”

little-monster
15-03-2015
Pink doesn't like her debut album, because it never represented her as an artist and she was forced into making it by the label who tried to market her as a slightly edgy Britney spears. The only song off the album she likes is There You Go.
Quixotic
15-03-2015
Fleetwood Mac drummer Mick Fleetwood has called their 1995 album Time a mistake. Stevie Nicks has openly criticised Street Angel. I don't blame her. It's a dull, lifeless album. She hasn't played any songs from it since the late 1990s. Elton John doesn't like Leather Jackets or Jump Up.
Tejas
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by dodrade:
“I've always disliked artists promoting a new album by essentially slagging off their previous one i.e. "this album is darker and more mature than our last", and thereby insulting the fans who bought it.

There are plenty of artists who come to dislike some of their songs but they ought to keep it to themselves out of respect to the fans who do like them and have made them successful.”

I don't think words like that are insulting to an artists' past work or the people who liked it, just saying that they have moved on artistically and want people to see that they're not simply churning out the same stuff over and over again. It is a massive cliché in the music biz though - sometimes I'm sure its true, but a lot of the time it smacks more of "the new album is my best one yet, everyone should buy it!"
TreyC
15-03-2015
Anastacia hates her album 'Heavy Rotation' because she signed a new label who forced her to go down the RnB route and work with the likes of Ne-Yo. It had some good songs on it but it sounded like an album that should have been penned for Mary J B.
Sweetums
15-03-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“Lana seems to have disowned Ultraviolence.”

She does, and I wonder why as some of her best work is on there. This album should have been huge but I can't recall her doing much promo for it at all? Especially not outside the US.
shelleyj89
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by little-monster:
“Pink doesn't like her debut album, because it never represented her as an artist and she was forced into making it by the label who tried to market her as a slightly edgy Britney spears. The only song off the album she likes is There You Go.”

She co-wrote seven songs on that album, so I'm certain there are more than just the one she likes. She still sings You Make Me Sick and Most Girls on her tours, as well as There You Go that you've mentioned. But R'n'B is most definitely not her favourite thing. I think she's appreciative of the platform it gave her, but that's about it. I do find it funny though when people say she should go back to the old/original her, without acknowledging that that was never truely her.
bunny93
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by Living4Love:
“Lana seems to have disowned Ultraviolence.”

Ultraviolence is amazing, her best album so far. I don't get why she's not so keen on it
little-monster
16-03-2015
Originally Posted by shelleyj89:
“She co-wrote seven songs on that album, so I'm certain there are more than just the one she likes. She still sings You Make Me Sick and Most Girls on her tours, as well as There You Go that you've mentioned. But R'n'B is most definitely not her favourite thing. I think she's appreciative of the platform it gave her, but that's about it. I do find it funny though when people say she should go back to the old/original her, without acknowledging that that was never truely her.”

Just because she wrote seven songs, doesn't mean she likes all seven songs

So no, there is nothing to be certain about.
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