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Old 14-03-2015, 12:33
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just like in 2010 eh it was all going so well

but just watched the past 2 weeks episodes its shockingly bad

characters are all written so stupidly and doing very VERY stupid things

character A asks character b whats wrong character B says nothing everythings fine then walks away

we have had this repeated over and over again with

nancy and mick
sonia and carol
kush and shabs
kat and stacey

kats story is so bad the character is so repeative now the actress knows her story is crap and it shows onscreen IMO

all the stories that featured in live week have not had any decent scenes/progress
dot
dean
ronnie
lucy murder
jane/bobby
phil back for a few eps then gone again
kathy
you dont just build upto that one major week then fob it off a week later
especially when that storyline was inked to the show for a whole year before hand to just dismiss it so quickly is stupid
and you cant keep storys on pause just to suit when you want your next major "event"week
halloween ,xmas etc

why do we never get to see how characters actually cope with the aftermaths
they almost always swan off screen for weeks afterwards im not saying have the story be featured in every episode but a scene here and there every other episode would make all the difference

but yet we always get repetitive scenes during the storyline
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Old 14-03-2015, 12:58
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just like in 2010 eh it was all going so well

but just watched the past 2 weeks episodes its shockingly bad

characters are all written so stupidly and doing very VERY stupid things

character A asks character b whats wrong character B says nothing everythings fine then walks away

we have had this repeated over and over again with

nancy and mick
sonia and carol
kush and shabs
kat and stacey

kats story is so bad the character is so repeative now the actress knows her story is crap and it shows onscreen IMO

all the stories that featured in live week have not had any decent scenes/progress
dot
dean
ronnie
lucy murder
jane/bobby
phil back for a few eps then gone again
kathy
you dont just build upto that one major week then fob it off a week later
especially when that storyline was inked to the show for a whole year before hand to just dismiss it so quickly is stupid
and you cant keep storys on pause just to suit when you want your next major "event"week
halloween ,xmas etc

why do we never get to see how characters actually cope with the aftermaths
they almost always swan off screen for weeks afterwards im not saying have the story be featured in every episode but a scene here and there every other episode would make all the difference

but yet we always get repetitive scenes during the storyline
Have to agree. It's clear that everything went into live week, and I wouldn't be surprised if things pick up dramatically once the Beales return. But the meat in that sandwich - the last few weeks - absolutely dreadful. Not a very competent way to run a soap. Ruin a soap, maybe!
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Old 14-03-2015, 13:24
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Outcome of live week is part of the issue as well. Making the killer an extra who had only just got a new face is hardly the stuff to generate a buzz. Or in other words who gives a .....!
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Old 14-03-2015, 13:35
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It possibly hasn't helped that what we're seeing now would have been filmed weeks ago.

I suspect things will pick up when the Beales return.
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Old 14-03-2015, 13:44
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I must be in the minority as I'm quite enjoying Eastenders at the moment, apart from the frankly weird scene with Shabnam thinking she is engaged to Kush.

I think Kat has been fantastic and I've loved seeing Jessie Wallace get her teeth into something at last. It's good to learn a bit more about the Cokers - Claudette intrigues me. It's also been good to see Kim doing something other than act the fool - her scenes with Denise and Patrick were played so well.

OK so it isn't all high drama and shocking revelations but that's fine by me.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:01
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I have enjoyed the last few weeks. I have not noticed a sharp decline in quality at all.

It's been more of a focus on the everyday life, which is no bad thing. There have been some very interesting scenes. Eastenders is a soap that thrives on having good characters and the storylines revolve around them, rather than the other way round.
If you want explosive drama with ridiculous twists in every episode, watch Hollyoaks instead.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:08
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No the problem is looking at the writers for the last few week they either seem to be new writers or writers that's written a few terrible episodes before that they've brought back to write.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:20
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It's so boring and it needs to improve quickly.

The BBC need to accept that after years of mediocrity, the fans just WON'T accept it no more. We accepted it back before 2010, because we knew things would improve, and that it wouldn't last for long. However, when they throw utter garbage at us for 3 years and then try and win the viewers back weeks later, you do not throw a load of shit at the audience, like they have been doing!
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:20
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No the problem is looking at the writers for the last few week they either seem to be new writers or writers that's written a few terrible episodes before that they've brought back to write.
This. All these new writers need the sack. Awful!

Get James Payne and Daran Little to write every episode.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:22
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It also doesn't help, when they think the audience care about the Cokers, Kush and Donna, etc... Dillousional.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:27
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It possibly hasn't helped that what we're seeing now would have been filmed weeks ago.

I suspect things will pick up when the Beales return.
Agreed although it's nice to have a break from the rape story now. Ian and Jane really needed to stick around for life week aftermath but their characters are away for a normal reason it it'll pick up again when they are back.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:30
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It also doesn't help, when they think the audience care about the Cokers, Kush and Donna, etc... Dillousional.
Just because they are new doesn't mean people don't care. They need the screentime so we can get to know them and warm to them. The show would be stale without new characters but they have wasted time by not featuring them much last year. However it's not to late to develop them more. I care about pam and kush and to some stage donna. Les as I don't rate the actor o don't partially want to see him stick around or get much screentime
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:31
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My other half's dad has just started watching again after a twenty-year hiatus because he enjoyed the anniversary week so much, and has actually found that having a few slower weeks with lots of different characters (who he's now 'getting to know') has helped him get back into the show.

I haven't actually minded these last few weeks too much. Obviously, they're not the most dramatic, but it's nice to see some focus on characters who haven't really had much screentime recently.

It would be nice if there was more of a mix of characters, rather than this apparent block storytelling, but with panto absences and live rehearsals, I do understand why.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:31
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I think it's great that the show is concentrating on some different characters. It's about time we explored the Cokers a bit deeper. It's also great to see Kat coping without Alfie. The Beales and the Carters have dominated over the last couple of months and it's important to give other characters a chance to breathe.

Also, with all the secrecy over the live episodes, surely it's obvious to Eastenders fans that it would be difficult for the following episodes to reference them?
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:40
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It also doesn't help, when they think the audience care about the Cokers, Kush and Donna, etc... Dillousional.
I'm the first to say that I am missing all the main characters but I can cope with the likes of who you have mentioned having some more time on screen for a couple of weeks. They aren't bad characters and it is needed. How else will we get to know them? The live week took up a lot of the main characters time, with rehearsals etc so the ones with little live time would have been filming more or less as normal. It won't be long now when everyone is back and people will be moaning again about how the likes of Pam, les etc aren't getting enough air time

It is frustrating that the storylines in Live week have just been left. Can't wait for what is ahead but we just have to be a little patient. If it is still like this in a months time then maybe I would start to worry
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:41
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It's so boring and it needs to improve quickly.

The BBC need to accept that after years of mediocrity, the fans just WON'T accept it no more. We accepted it back before 2010, because we knew things would improve, and that it wouldn't last for long. However, when they throw utter garbage at us for 3 years and then try and win the viewers back weeks later, you do not throw a load of shit at the audience, like they have been doing!
Woah, calm down!

BBC/EastEnders have NOT been throwing shit at the audience, it's just that live week was so good of course weeks following are going to be boring. It was the same in 2010 & it was the same in Corrie too after the 50th week, episodes following were quite boring & bland, but that's because we were used to high drama & twists from New Year-Live Week.

It's nice to have a break from the drama actually. Plus the focus on Kat has been good.
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Old 14-03-2015, 14:46
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It's so boring and it needs to improve quickly.

The BBC need to accept that after years of mediocrity, the fans just WON'T accept it no more. We accepted it back before 2010, because we knew things would improve, and that it wouldn't last for long. However, when they throw utter garbage at us for 3 years and then try and win the viewers back weeks later, you do not throw a load of shit at the audience, like they have been doing!
The above paragraph totally doesn't make any sense whatsoever
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Old 14-03-2015, 15:00
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I have enjoyed the last few weeks. I have not noticed a sharp decline in quality at all.

It's been more of a focus on the everyday life, which is no bad thing. There have been some very interesting scenes. Eastenders is a soap that thrives on having good characters and the storylines revolve around them, rather than the other way round.
If you want explosive drama with ridiculous twists in every episode, watch Hollyoaks instead.
Nobody is saying that, and frankly it irks me when people suggest we have. We haven't.
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Old 14-03-2015, 15:02
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I've enjoyed the last few weeks. It's been nice having the focus on other characters. I've really enjoyed Kat's storyline and seeing more of Mo.
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Old 14-03-2015, 15:14
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EE are not good at aftermaths. 1 or 2 eps after a big week and then all the main characters involved in the big story disappear off screen for weeks and the show loses momentum when it should be trying to build it.

I know the Bobby story isn't over but just annoying like 2010 when Stacey went awol for weeks so have The Beales and Mitchell's. DTC said he'd learned from the mistakes of 2010 aswell.
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Old 14-03-2015, 15:19
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It also doesn't help, when they think the audience care about the Cokers, Kush and Donna, etc... Dillousional.
I think Kush has potential and am quite enjoying him but I hope he's going to get a good story of his own and not be bogged down by all the Masood's storylines.
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Old 14-03-2015, 15:23
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They should have spliced some scenes in of Bobby bashing the head of his action man doll.
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Old 14-03-2015, 15:36
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One of the big problems is how weak the male cast becomes when you lose Phil, Ian and Max.

Ronnie aside, all of the better female characters have been on screen: Kat, Stacey, Shirley, Linda and Dot. The male cast has seemed non existant and the balance has been off.
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Old 14-03-2015, 15:37
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Ah Lou, you never disappoint when it comes to hyperbole. I fully expect you to be writing articles for one of the red tops when you're older.
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Old 14-03-2015, 16:03
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I don't think it's fair to slag off the new characters because "we don't care" they have to be given screentime for us to invest in them just like all the favs have had, I'd blame the writers for not making them well rounded enough for us to "care".
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