im trying to care that she was overly rude (and she was) to some nobody on a cheap poorly produced version of x factor, but i really am not phased.

i found her husbands comments more bizarre to be honest

i still love her music, and want her to do more.
she has always kind of been an artist i have listened to on the downlow knowing she will never really be 'known'. so a kind of non commercial pop.

Mirrors:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4By_cfI_1g

I kind of agree, she was exceptionally harsh, but nothing outside the realms of panto baddie and what has been said before and she may just have about got away with it if she has left it there but her Husband's comments were much much worse (The worst I've ever seen and I watch a lot of Talent Shows) and he seems to have gotten off lightly in comparison which I don't understand?

well shes female for a start, instantly working against her.
and also despite the whole ''who is she??'' which you see here there and everywhere, he is clearly far less known than her, which is why hes under the radar.

If it makes you feel better, I think Willy Moon was the nastier of the two. She just came across as rather off her rocker, but WM was a real piece of shit.

I do think some of Natalia's songs are really good but I won't ever be paying to listen to her music after this.

There is having an opinion and then there is attacking someone personally where it goes outside what her job is meant to be judging for. That is why she was out of order and was rightfully sacked. This isn't the first time she was rude to people on the show as she swore at the audiene, and this isn't the first her and her husband have verbally abused people.

Her music is dreadfully produced, so i never had a nice thing to say about her musically anyway, but as a person, i can safely say I do not like her at all. She isn't successful, she isn't held in high regard and isn't in the position in her career to sit behind a desk and mentor people to be a successful artist. She has had one top 30 hit in New Zealand, and that suddenly makes her relevant and in the know of the music industry. Melanie Blatt may of been some hasbeen from yesteryear but she has loads of experience and was apart of a successful girlband so her part on the show imo is justified.

In reference to the BIB, why be so rude yourself? Is everyone trying to make it in life a nobody to you?

Even though what they said was utterly ridiculous - "How dare you come on stage and WEAR A SUIT when my husband ALSO WEARS A SUIT, by the way you remind me of a serial killer" - it didn't come across as panto baddie to me at all. It was a diatribe completely designed to belittle him, two against one. Text book bullying scenario.

It was all "oooh check you out trying to be as good as us" even though they're both completely sh*t themselves. Off you trot, the pair of you.

The whole situation was ridiculous. I still can't decide whether it was a big publicity stunt or not.

I agree that her music is sick though. On the tacky side, but extremely listenable!

Kill My Boyfriend and Wonderland are my favorites. I'm still shocked Mirrors didn't smash too.

Her husband looks like a f*cking foot btw.

I disagree. She was exceptionally harsh, but it definitely was not your token pantomime villain featuring in these competitions. She BULLIED the poor guy on stage.

Willy Moon is so strange. I've been watching various vids and only his lips ever move. His face is always completely still. He almost looks like a Thunderbirds puppet.

Her comments would be less ridiculous if her music/image showed even an ounce of originality. As for her husband, why would anyone copy someone who is so completely irrelevant.

They're so desperate for attention that they'd behave like this on live TV. Pathetic.

I honestly have never heard of her or her husband until yesterday, I lead quite a busy life so its not unusual for me not to have heard of someone. So as an introduction to them this would not enamour me to them. So they have shot themselves in the foot I think. The old saying 'There's no such thing as bad publicity' isn't always true.

I like a couple of her songs and one of Willy Moon's, but I have no intention of listening to them again in the near future. A pair of truly horrible people, what they did definitely goes beyond "panto baddies" imo.

I didn't see that bit of their post. I can suddenly see why she's making excuses for Natalia. Like attracts like, maybe.

yes maybe i am just as vile.

calm down oh saintly ones, i probably should have made the thread title slightly different, ''i still like Natalia Kills MUSIC'', to be honest i have always found her as a person slightly detached and odd. So her behavior came as no surprise really. Shes definately got even more strange on social media since she got with that Willy head Moon.

And the term ''nobody'' was meant in the sense that this person is a nobody to me, and will continue to be no doubt.
Love DS and the way posters pick up on everything

I deleted all Natalia Kills' songs from my phone in disgust

I didn't go that far because I don't think that at all. To to be fair, all we have to go on here is the written word and without the context you've since added, calling someone a nobody is kind of mean.

I appreciate you've clarified with you meant a bit more, and I apologise for getting the wrong end of the stick and retract my comment.

However good her or her husband's music is, it will always be tainted by knowing what thoroughly unlikeable people they are. So deluded about their own importance. My favourite tweet about the incident was Ellie Goulding's "You sort of have to be, you know, vaguely relevant to have your style stolen just saying"

At least New Zealand producers have common sense for sacking them. I doubt ITV or Simon would axe Cheryl, Louis or Mel for saying that on the UK version.

Cheryl DID rip into someone (Wagner) on live TV and I don't think anyone aside from a few viewers said anything about it. Granted, she was nowhere near as bad as Natalia and Willy but it was still unprofessional and out of order. That incident still sticks in my mind because it made her come across as really unlikable and put me right off her.

The first I ever heard of her is when she co-wrote a few songs with Madonna for her latest album which I like. But I had no opinion of her as a person really. I think I read one interview where she sounded nice enough.

Since she's not that famous, how did she get a job as judge in the first place? Don't they usually pick more well known singers?
But to me it sounds a little odd to fire someone for being too rude on a reality show? Isn't that why they hire certain people as judges because they are expecting them to say outrageous bitchy things to start a controversy? That's what reality competition shows are all about aren't they? You can't take anything people say seriously on these shows. It's all fake and entertainment anyway. So I don't see the big uproar.

The big uproar was, and as i said in my last post was, her judgemental wasn't on his singing or his talent, it was about him as a person. He isn't on there to be judged for what he is wearing. He is there to be judged on how to sing. They ripped into him. Said he was unoriginal and that looking at him made them physically sick. Imagine being told that in front of millions of viewers and a room full of hundreds of people. Because i bet you wouldn't walk away and feel happy about it. It wasn't an opinion. It was a personal and verbal attack. You don't treat people like that full stop regardless of whether it is on a tv show or out in the street. Only difference is, these two nasty people did this while working. Whether you work on a hit tv show, or work at the local corner shop, you do not rip into someone like that and get away with it.

I'm a Natalia Kills fan; Perfectionist is one of my favourites. I'm really disappointed by her comments. It was way over the top. I'm still looking forward to new material.

I'm wondering that too. Perhaps the producers were intent on having a married couple on the panel, for the novelty, and somehow this pairing came to mind.