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Results:What did you think to the episode?
Very poor
16 (3.26%)
Poor
23 (4.68%)
Fair
31 (6.31%)
Good
76 (15.48%)
Very Good
161 (32.79%)
Excellent
184 (37.47%)
Voters: 491. You can't vote on this poll right now - are you signed in?
Doctor Who - 2nd April (merged)
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RobAnt
02-04-2005
One question - are people expecting (if David Tennants gets the role) the Casanova character as The Doctor?

Frankly, I liked the Casanova character he presented - but he has to be careful otherwise he'll be Character Cast, rather than type cast. As a professional actor he will have to approach it differently if he wants to progress.
Polka Dot Demon
02-04-2005
Wow!

I really enjoyed that. I was thinking last week about how different the 1st episode was from the old series, but this felt totally different to last week as well.

Can't wait 'til next week...
tomorrow
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by RobAnt:
“One question - are people expecting (if David Tennants gets the role) the Casanova character as The Doctor?”

No reason to I suppose for a few years ... for instance ...

1) I am watching the quatermass experiment now and David Tennant is on that ....

2) He was great in Blackpool (BBC2 series last year)

3) He is going to be in a Harry Potter film

4) Added: Was recently on BBC3s Casanova

He does show he is multi-talented and can do many different parts. No reason why he should be limited to doing just Dr Who .... it doesn't take 12 months to film 13 episodes ...
emsee
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by RobAnt:
“One question - are people expecting (if David Tennants gets the role) the Casanova character as The Doctor?

Frankly, I liked the Casanova character he presented - but he has to be careful otherwise he'll be Character Cast, rather than type cast. As a professional actor he will have to approach it differently if he wants to progress.”

David Tennant is playing Doctor Briscoe in the Quatermass Xperiment on BBC4 as I type this.

I havent watched Casanova but based on what I've seen of him in Quatermass think I can imagine him playing the doctor (yes I know he's playing a doctor at the moment but I can imagine him playing the doctor quite well )
bayards
02-04-2005
...at the end I actually had my hands clenched - the tension! Can't believe this is the same programme I have loved since 1963 - it's so fresh, funny and sad. The end bit with Rose and the Doctor in the street watchinh everyone was really well acted - I want chips!

The "zombie" things from next week look fantastic! The BBC3 Confidential programme that followed was informative - lots of background shots during filming etc, chats with FX house the Mill (they really have excelled themselves this week).

The Gallifreyan race - who would have thought it eh?

H
DenWatts
02-04-2005
Quote:
“Now it's Brittney Spears Toxic”

Well, it keeps the kids watching.
DryHumper
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by bayards:
“...at the end I actually had my hands clenched - the tension!”

Really? That's the main thing I'd criticize, I'm liking alot of elements, but the action sequences aren't working for me, I'm just not on the edge of my seat. It's been the same for both episodes.
etldlrl
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by SeanMcQ:
“I loved this ep but the whole time travel thing annoys me. The tree thing died, lots of people were killed, his planet was destroyed....can't he just time travel back to before all this stuff happened? Save everyone on the station and save his world. Badabing, badaboom!”

Part of the fundamental ethos of Dr Who is about the responsibility of the powerful. Time Lords have extreme power and to change events arbitrarily on personal preference could lead to disaster. Most of the Time Lords were shown withdrawing pretty much entirely from relations with other species. On occaision they did try to intervene in a high-handed way and it normally ended badly. The Doctor and The Master are the only consistent exceptions. The Master doesn't give a toss but The Doctor always tries to keep within the rules (more or less).

As for the Earth being destroyed, that was no sadness. Like Casandra, it was being kept alive beyond its natural time for no good reason. It had long been uninhabited and people had found other places to live.

What is more interesting is how it is possible to destroy the Time Lords. As they travel backwards and forwards in time it is not enough to destroy Galifrey at a certain point in time as that would leave large numbers of Time Lords still existing in the past and able to move into the future. For The Doctor to be the sole surviving Time Lord something truely bizzare would have to have happened to erase the Time Lords from history and something equally bizzare would have to happen to save The Doctor.

It seems likely to me that the Time Lords were the archetects of their own destruction. Firstly, only they have the power to piss about with time and the hubris to cock it up. Secondly, there is indication of internal division. When The Doctor was trying to reason with the Nestine Conciousness he argued that he had tried to help during "the war" but the Conciousness became incredibly hostile once it recognised him as a Time Lord. This would imply that not all the Time Lords were on the same side as The Doctor.
steve_o12
02-04-2005
I'm loving this show as a 40 year old who grew up with John Pertwee and Tom Baker. I'm really impressed by this Dr Who every episode is like watching a film, I thought that was such a touching moment with The Dr saying there was a war and him being the last one alive. It made me think, he's alone going threw time looking for a friend and friends and adventure, but never giving up even when confronted by evil, so positive for the kid's these day's someone to look up to. I wonder if the war was anything to do with the Darleks, his number one foes I'd like to think so.
RobAnt
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by emsee:
“David Tennant is playing Doctor Briscoe in the Quatermass Xperiment on BBC4 as I type this.

I havent watched Casanova but based on what I've seen of him in Quatermass think I can imagine him playing the doctor (yes I know he's playing a doctor at the moment but I can imagine him playing the doctor quite well )”

His Casanova performance is much much more tongue in cheek than his Dr Briscoe performance.
Barbara2001
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by RobAnt:
“His Casanova performance is much much more tongue in cheek than his Dr Briscoe performance.”

I thought David Tennant was very relaxed and almost laid-back in Questermass. Excellent performances all round.
Ally-Ayr
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by etldlrl:
“Part of the fundamental ethos of Dr Who is about the responsibility of the powerful. Time Lords have extreme power and to change events arbitrarily on personal preference could lead to disaster. Most of the Time Lords were shown withdrawing pretty much entirely from relations with other species. On occaision they did try to intervene in a high-handed way and it normally ended badly. The Doctor and The Master are the only consistent exceptions. The Master doesn't give a toss but The Doctor always tries to keep within the rules (more or less).

As for the Earth being destroyed, that was no sadness. Like Casandra, it was being kept alive beyond its natural time for no good reason. It had long been uninhabited and people had found other places to live.

What is more interesting is how it is possible to destroy the Time Lords. As they travel backwards and forwards in time it is not enough to destroy Galifrey at a certain point in time as that would leave large numbers of Time Lords still existing in the past and able to move into the future. For The Doctor to be the sole surviving Time Lord something truely bizzare would have to have happened to erase the Time Lords from history and something equally bizzare would have to happen to save The Doctor.

It seems likely to me that the Time Lords were the archetects of their own destruction. Firstly, only they have the power to piss about with time and the hubris to cock it up. Secondly, there is indication of internal division. When The Doctor was trying to reason with the Nestine Conciousness he argued that he had tried to help during "the war" but the Conciousness became incredibly hostile once it recognised him as a Time Lord. This would imply that not all the Time Lords were on the same side as The Doctor.”


, not over anylising, I hope! lol
PennyB
02-04-2005
I thought it was excellent, again. As someone said earlier 'fresh, funny and sad'

One thing I noticed was that he alluded to being on the titanic (comments to the tree lady re ships built to last), yet last week Mark Benton told Rosie that he'd missed the boat (as in titanic)
waffler
02-04-2005
Originally Posted by PennyB:
“I thought it was excellent, again. As someone said earlier 'fresh, funny and sad'

One thing I noticed was that he alluded to being on the titanic (comments to the tree lady re ships built to last), yet last week Mark Benton told Rosie that he'd missed the boat (as in titanic)”

i thought he said he stopped a family from sailing ?(the ones with him in the pic)

enjoyed tonights show
and apart from the background music (again)
am enjoying this series

now.....all we need is tiswas back
and saturdays will be complete
RICH-SHEFF
02-04-2005
Who would have thought it he?
A new great british "Doctor Who" show plus "Captain Scarlet" and not forgetting the superlative "Battlestar Galatica" and "Carnivale" - now how can anyone complain at that?????

Some people would complain if they won the bloody lootery - miserable ***** , some of them he??

Regards

RICH-SHEFF
diamondcat
02-04-2005
Loved Dr Who but hardly noticed David Tennant tonight. I think they need someone else because, so far, he's just not remarkable enough. I'll be amazed if he pulls it off.

I'll be pleased for anyone who does it, however, because it's a herculean challenge. Possibly a poisoned chalice. Nothing like having a nation's expectations resting on your shoulders to let you rest easy in your bed!

Well, bring back Paul McGann, I say! Mind you, I thought a doctor on a motorcycle was very sexy!
lukieboi82
02-04-2005
As someone pointed out that Skaro was destroyed by the Doctor so it could be a revenge thing... So I'm guessing the Daleks destroyed Gallifrey, Strangely enough, me and my dad, both doctor who fans, quickly thought, the daleks when he mentioned his world was destroyed...

Someone asked about when the Daleks comes into it... they come in on Episode 6 and 12 and 13... (12 + 13 = 2 parter)

I really enjoyed the 2nd April Episode.. Loved Zoe Wanamaker
DenWatts
03-04-2005
Originally Posted by RobAnt:
“His Casanova performance is much much more tongue in cheek than his Dr Briscoe performance.”

And he's truely wonderful! Watch it all the way through and tell me honestly that you don't cry!
Last edited by oomonkeyboyoo : 03-04-2005 at 01:10
bewitched
03-04-2005
I never liked Dr Who before, But i'm really enjoying this series. I do think it's a shame that Chris Ecclestone has decided to only do the one series. He plays the role of the Doctor really well both comical and drama of it.
I can't imagine anybody else playing him the same way.
DenWatts
03-04-2005
Originally Posted by lukieboi82:
“As someone pointed out that Skaro was destroyed by the Doctor so it could be a revenge thing... So I'm guessing the Daleks destroyed Gallifrey, Strangely enough, me and my dad, both doctor who fans, quickly thought, the daleks when he mentioned his world was destroyed...”

Yep, as I said, my money's on the Daleks.

The war would have had to have been with another time travelling race to wipe out the Time Lords completely - and in the Who universe, the Daleks are the only other race capable of ('proper') time travel.

Anyone else thinking the Daleks, in revenge for McCoy 'destroying' Skaro, decide to attack Gallifrey? Maybe leading into the two-parter Dalek finale when he goes back to try and stop them?

Let's face it, the Daleks would be the only race who would dare, and the only race with the motive.
DenWatts
03-04-2005
Originally Posted by RICH-SHEFF:
“Who would have thought it he? not forgetting the superlative "Battlestar Galatica".... how can anyone complain at that?????”

Galactica really is superb - and with a brand new (fantastic) Doctor it's a new golden age of sci-fi (and entertainment! yes! yes!! yes!!!) in general.

Let's hope all the channels take note and ditch the "reality/celebrity/from hell" series' and start making entertaining tv again.
Last edited by oomonkeyboyoo : 03-04-2005 at 01:19
Gizmo
03-04-2005
I'm so glad I'm not the only one really finding this high quality entertainment! I am so pleased to see the beeb produce a show of this calibre - the acting is excellent, the storys have emotional impact to accompany the sci-fi. The pacing of the 'finale' of each episode, thus far, needs a little tweaking but that's nit-picking.

Have to agree with the other posters that the Daleks MUST be behind the Gallifrey war - if Ecclestone does leave, perhaps he can fight to save Gallifrey at the cost of his (current) life?

Jings, I haven't been this impatient for the next episode of a show since the final series of Angel.
crowby1
03-04-2005
Good. I just wished we'd seen more of the Doctor, not getting much of a sense of his personality etc.
DenWatts
03-04-2005
Originally Posted by Gizmo:
“Have to agree with the other posters that the Daleks MUST be behind the Gallifrey war - if Ecclestone does leave, perhaps he can fight to save Gallifrey at the cost of his (current) life?”

And there, I believe, you have the story for the final, two-part Dalek story for this series.
Alrightmate
03-04-2005
Over 92% of people who voted in this poll have voted that last night's show was "good" or better,..so far.

That's even better than the poll for the first episode.

I wonder if the viewing figures reflect this and are higher than last week's debut episode.
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