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GoggleBox- Ch4 (Part 2)
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Prince Monalulu
06-03-2016
Originally Posted by MichPlat:
“Set up a poll thread and you'll see she's either the least popular or just above S&S.”

I'm not interested in how popular googleboxers are with of the kind of people referred to in the second line in my post.
The show entertains me, that's all it needs to do really.
amyawake
06-03-2016
Originally Posted by MichPlat:
“Who mentioned one comment ??

I dislike pretty much everything she says and even how she says it , don't get me started on her stumpy little legs and her extremely cynical and unforgiving attitude to pretty much everyone and everything ...”

OK so you hate her. All I was trying to say though was that reverend Kate is not totally heartless, i.e. I have seen her visibly moved (tears in her eyes) on several occasions. However, you don''t want to register that I guess since it doesn't fit your entrenched view of her.
BellaRosa
07-03-2016
Originally Posted by pete137:
“Wooooosh !”



I agree with all you say. Who sits all dressed up watching tv? The people on here who moaned about the bare feet on show .. that is how most people watch tv and this is what the show was first about. The GBP watching tv in their homes.

The first series was really good but as soon as they knew they were 'popular' that is when the OTT started.
amyawake
07-03-2016
Originally Posted by pete137:
“Wooooosh !”

Ah sorry - I thought you were talking about the Oscars, (as the previous posts) not the gogglebox viewers. Yeah they tend to overplay it now a lot - some more than others ...human nature I guess but tiresome/transparent.

That's why getting in new viewers is a good idea. I guess getting rid of established viewers who overact might ruffle a few feathers though.
zoepaulpenny
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Ah sorry - I thought you were talking about the Oscars, (as the previous posts) not the gogglebox viewers. Yeah they tend to overplay it now a lot - some more than others ...human nature I guess but tiresome/transparent.

That's why getting in new viewers is a good idea. I guess getting rid of established viewers who overact might ruffle a few feathers though.”

Which is why i would get rid of the lot of them.. if pushed i would save a mere 3 households, and intro new fresh blood into the show..it needs it, or it will die, the clock is ticking..
Ten_Ben
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by zoepaulpenny:
“Which is why i would get rid of the lot of them.. if pushed i would save a mere 3 households, and intro new fresh blood into the show..it needs it, or it will die, the clock is ticking..”

I agree and have said it here many times (two series per family, max), but few people agree and C4 certainly doesn't!

C4 seems to want to turn the Goggleboxers into celebrities but surely that defeats the whole premise of the programme? I want to laugh along with the Goggleboxers making witty comments and being spontaneous. I don't want to care who they are and I don't want to get to know them. They're no longer just regular viewers, they can't be. It's all become way too contrived and is far removed from that pioneering first series.
amyawake
09-03-2016
Hmmm...I am torn. I do like the cosiness of seeing my favourite viewers there but then I recognise that there is a contrived tendency now operating.

Not sure what the solution might be....phasing out favourites could be disastrous and too risky.
Steven88
09-03-2016
Getting in new people won't necessarily mean that they will have more natural reactions to what they are watching. The popularity of Gogglebox means it is more likely to attract fame hungry people who play up to the cameras.
Ten_Ben
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by Steven88:
“Getting in new people won't necessarily mean that they will have more natural reactions to what they are watching. The popularity of Gogglebox means it is more likely to attract fame hungry people who play up to the cameras.”

True but that all depends on what's allowed to make the edit. There's more families now but that just seems to encourage them to play up even more in the competition for airtime. Witness the way that they all now seem to have acquired dogs, as though that's going to make them more endearing and help get them airtime.
Malliday
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by Ten_Ben:
“I agree and have said it here many times (two series per family, max), but few people agree and C4 certainly doesn't!

C4 seems to want to turn the Goggleboxers into celebrities but surely that defeats the whole premise of the programme? I want to laugh along with the Goggleboxers making witty comments and being spontaneous. I don't want to care who they are and I don't want to get to know them. They're no longer just regular viewers, they can't be. It's all become way too contrived and is far removed from that pioneering first series.”

I agree with your second paragraph about the show becoming too focused on the Goggleboxers themselves.

However, I think there are still long-running people and families on the show, such as the Michaels, the Malones and Chris and Stephen who can still produce some funny and natural reactions because their natural personalities can't help but show through.

But there are those like Sandy & Sandra, the Tappers, Steph & Dom, Kate & Graham and Scarlett Moffat (I think her Mum and Dad are still quite natural in front of the camera) who are undoubtedly playing up to the cameras or saying what they think people want to hear rather than their natural reactions these days.

The show could do with changing the families up more regularly to avoid that, but I think a maximum of two series per family would be too little for viewers to warm to them, and it would surely see people who are still good entertainment value booted off to be replaced by people who might not be so.

The editing certainly hasn't helped to keep it appearing natural recently, since the producers obviously have their own ideas of what they think the natural reaction to shows and news items should be (see the one-sided reactions to Brexit, the Oscars race row, etc).

Channel 4 are obviously playing it safe, They've currently got a show that's doing well in the ratings and receiving awards. They don't want to risk pulling the rug from under themselves by riskily replacing seemingly popular characters and families with brand new people.

There will come a time though when the show obviously becomes stale, where ratings will stall or begin dropping, and we'll probably see a sudden shake-up in the "cast" to try and salvage the show.

But until then I think we'll be stuck with the increasingly over-familiar faces.
amyawake
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by Steven88:
“Getting in new people won't necessarily mean that they will have more natural reactions to what they are watching. The popularity of Gogglebox means it is more likely to attract fame hungry people who play up to the cameras.”

Yes unfortunately, that is a real factor now that the programme is popular and won awards.

I think it works pretty well currently - for me anyway, i.e. I am enjoying it quite a lot!
MichPlat
09-03-2016
Originally Posted by amyawake:
“Hmmm...I am torn. I do like the cosiness of seeing my favourite viewers there but then I recognise that there is a contrived tendency now operating.
C
Not sure what the solution might be....phasing out favourites could be disastrous and too risky.”

As long as they kept the Michaels , two sisters , the two hairdressers , the two friends who are filmed in a caravan and the family of four where the mum and daughter sit at the back (daughter in the corner ) I'd be fine ... The rest, I find fake and tiresome tbh .
SuperAPJ
10-03-2016
Originally Posted by Malliday:
“the producers obviously have their own ideas of what they think the natural reaction to shows and news items should be (see the one-sided reactions to Brexit, the Oscars race row, etc).”

That's what's been annoying me about the show recently, not that I've stopped enjoying it completely.

I wonder if, when the cast are scenes which are supposedly moving, there are multiple takes for them to perfect their 'sad'/'shocked' faces and squeeze out that all-important single tear.
BellaRosa
11-03-2016
Caroline sounds a bit rough


And still no Tapper dad
rhumble
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by BellaRosa;81797601[B:
“]Caroline sounds a bit rough[/b]


And still no Tapper dad ”

I was looking for the thread to say that
BellaRosa
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“I was looking for the thread to say that ”

I have never known a pre- record to let someone voiceover like this.
cavalli
11-03-2016
The Sandras are such stereotypes
rhumble
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by cavalli:
“The Sandras are such stereotypes ”

They spoil it for me
BellaRosa
11-03-2016
That blokes loves his mum and seems he loves himself as well. What a turn off
Lyricalis
11-03-2016
Let's see how many girls would be left if I said I was looking for someone with a maths or physics degree.
owen10
11-03-2016
I dont like Take me out when they change the women each series You only just got to know them
BellaRosa
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“They spoil it for me”

And me.
cavalli
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by rhumble:
“They spoil it for me”

I hated them at first, then was mildly amused for a few episodes now I'm just repulsed

*Turns light off*
Groundhogal
11-03-2016
Originally Posted by BellaRosa:
“Caroline sounds a bit rough


And still no Tapper dad ”

Why didn't Craig do it instead? Unless his throat's even worse.
BellaRosa
11-03-2016
I could not trust a driverless car
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