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Old 31-08-2015, 09:37
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I'm just surmising, but do you think the reason it wasn't shown earlier was because of the use of the 'n' word?
It's BBC4 so I don't think that would've been too much of a concern in the context of the show. Probably they stuck it there because it's a leftover and could look a bit odd popping up in prime-time.

Made in 1996! Different world back then. Weird to think some younger Wallander fans wouldn't have even been alive when this was made.
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Old 31-08-2015, 15:57
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In the book the Russian training the South African makes racist comments, and the book kept old South African placenames because the plot is time specific so I assume the comment was made in the context of the book of The Russian trying to see if the South African would break under pressure. Have it recorded so will see who says what - still surprised it got a graveyard slot with little to indicate it was to be broadcast
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Old 01-09-2015, 14:02
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Picture quality was variable: poor to ok (and I'm not usually given to commenting with a modest TV watching in SD) but was it filmed on Super 8 then kept on the back shelf of a car for twenty years?

Apart from that I enjoyed the White Lioness a lot. Who'd have guessed it was going to be about post Apartheid South Africa and a black hit man hired by disgruntled whites to foment trouble and revolt and maybe regain power?

Wallender played his part and though there were certainly shortcomings in the way it was all done, particularly the unlikely security and setting of the big event at the end it was well worth watching.

Thanks for pointing it out, farmer bob.
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Old 01-09-2015, 22:24
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Reminder: Resistance (French, set in WW2)

Tonight 9pm More 4
Recorded this & we watched it tonight. Really enjoyed the 1st episode, looks promising. 👍
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Old 01-09-2015, 22:33
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Picture quality was variable: poor to ok (and I'm not usually given to commenting with a modest TV watching in SD) but was it filmed on Super 8 then kept on the back shelf of a car for twenty years?

Apart from that I enjoyed the White Lioness a lot. Who'd have guessed it was going to be about post Apartheid South Africa and a black hit man hired by disgruntled whites to foment trouble and revolt and maybe regain power?

Wallender played his part and though there were certainly shortcomings in the way it was all done, particularly the unlikely security and setting of the big event at the end it was well worth watching.

Thanks for pointing it out, farmer bob.

👍 It's a real pity about the picture quality of the early 'Rolf Lassgard Wallanders', he's a good Wallander though and very different from the later Krister ones.
Through watching these shows on beeb4 I discovered the books, which is a real plus.
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Old 01-09-2015, 22:55
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👍 It's a real pity about the picture quality of the early 'Rolf Lassgard Wallanders', he's a good Wallander though and very different from the later Krister ones.
Through watching these shows on beeb4 I discovered the books, which is a real plus.
Me too, I've also started reading the Montalbano books
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Old 02-09-2015, 05:34
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Next up is a Swedish crime drama called Beck which has been running on an off since '97

https://thekillingtimestv.wordpress....he-first-time/

In the early 90s there had been a another series using the same characters in which Beck's sidekick Gunvald Larsson was played by Rolf Lassgård
Are these from the Martin Beck books? I've read some and heard a couple on the radio and enjoyed them - I don't remember the sidekick's name though. Have they been on TV here before?
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Old 02-09-2015, 08:04
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Are these from the Martin Beck books? I've read some and heard a couple on the radio and enjoyed them - I don't remember the sidekick's name though. Have they been on TV here before?
As far as I am aware, the films released between 1997 and 2015 are based on original screenplays.

They feature Peter Haber as Martin Beck, and Mikael Persbrandt as his associate Gunvald Larsson.

The Seasons, and their release dates, are:

Season 1, 1997-98-- 8 films.

Season 2, 2001-2--- 8 films.

Season 3, 2006-7--- 8 films.

Season 4, 2009------2 films.

Season 5,2015--------4 films.


The films to be broadcast on BBC4 are the four from Season 5.


I have Seasons 3 and 4 on DVD, and am a fan of both the films, and the two lead actors.
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Old 02-09-2015, 11:55
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As far as I am aware, the films released between 1997 and 2015 are based on original screenplays.

They feature Peter Haber as Martin Beck, and Mikael Persbrandt as his associate Gunvald Larsson.
The situation with the two Swedish versions of Beck is similar to the situation with the two Wallanders. The earlier ones were based on the books whereas the ones that will be shown on BBC4 are just based on the characters
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Old 04-09-2015, 16:19
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Reminder 'cos it's too easy to miss being on More 4:
Part 2 of Resistance (French WW2 drama) tonight at 9pm.

According to next week's Radio Times not only is there going to be a second series of Young Montalbano but there's also going to be a new series of Mentalbaldo
Double good news!
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Old 04-09-2015, 22:42
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I'm really enjoying Resistance. I'm gripped by it, so tense at times. The announcer said episode 3 would be shown on all4 but i couldn't see it.
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Old 05-09-2015, 22:35
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Caught up with Ep 2 of Resistance this evening, really good stuff. The traitor really made an impact on the group, next week's show should be intriguing.
Did anyone notice the car they were driving across the "Demarcation Zone" was a right-hand drive jalopy, not left-hand as you'd maybe expect, being in France
That aside, it's a very good production 👍
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Old 06-09-2015, 04:04
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Caught up with Ep 2 of Resistance this evening, really good stuff. The traitor really made an impact on the group, next week's show should be intriguing.
Did anyone notice the car they were driving across the "Demarcation Zone" was a right-hand drive jalopy, not left-hand as you'd maybe expect, being in France
That aside, it's a very good production 👍
I found episode 3 on ondemand and this just gets better.
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Old 06-09-2015, 09:24
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As far as I am aware, the films released between 1997 and 2015 are based on original screenplays.

They feature Peter Haber as Martin Beck, and Mikael Persbrandt as his associate Gunvald Larsson.

The Seasons, and their release dates, are:

Season 1, 1997-98-- 8 films.

Season 2, 2001-2--- 8 films.

Season 3, 2006-7--- 8 films.

Season 4, 2009------2 films.

Season 5,2015--------4 films.


The films to be broadcast on BBC4 are the four from Season 5.


I have Seasons 3 and 4 on DVD, and am a fan of both the films, and the two lead actors.
Thanks, I'll definitely give them a go
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Old 10-09-2015, 19:24
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I've just started a thread for Beck

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showt...3#post79580413
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Old 11-09-2015, 20:08
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I watched part 2 of Resistance during the week and part 3 coming up on More 4 at 9pm.

Is there a thread for it? I don't remember where the info came from originally, unless it was me seeing a trailer.
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Old 11-09-2015, 20:18
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I watched part 2 of Resistance during the week and part 3 coming up on More 4 at 9pm.

Is there a thread for it? I don't remember where the info came from originally, unless it was me seeing a trailer.
Someone started a thread but there are no replies, probably because they posted it in the Cult section

http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2100586

Speaking of Resistance, it was a bit obvious that
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Old 13-09-2015, 19:27
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Here are some details of the real life Resistance group featured in the series Resistance

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groupe...e_de_l%27Homme

One member of the group died (comparatively) recently at the age of 100

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Germaine_Tillion
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Old 18-09-2015, 22:40
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I'd never really given the French Resistance much thought until now. In other portrayals they're either seen briefly helping 'our brave boys' by passing them through several stages to return to good old Blighty and the War Effort, or the comedy version in 'Allo 'Allo along with non-scary comedy Germans.

In this Resistance on More4 I'm seeing their lives, their relationships, their risks, their losses, them being simultaneously brave AND fearful as their friends are dragged off to be brutalised by the Hun and lined up in front of a firing squad. It's brutal.
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Old 19-09-2015, 23:03
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Its very good isn't it? The kids are just that, forced to grow up quickly, spurred on by patriotic ferver and paying for it often through sheer naivety.
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Old 19-09-2015, 23:07
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Cracking series, can't believe it's tucked away on More4.
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Old 20-09-2015, 10:53
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Les Revenants is also on More4 so it looks like Channel 4 have decided that More will be the home to serious foreigners with subtitles from here on.
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Old 20-09-2015, 16:52
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Les Revenants is also on More4 so it looks like Channel 4 have decided that More will be the home to serious foreigners with subtitles from here on.
Is Les Revenants back on then?
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Old 20-09-2015, 18:47
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Well not at this moment! When it comes back it'll be on More4 so not HD for many of us
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Old 21-09-2015, 20:35
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They keep advertising the new series of the Returned. They say that the first series is available on All4 on demand, but I can't find it on All4 through my Sky box. Is it only available for download through the All4 website?
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