Galaxy S6 does look great in my eyes but...

alanwarwic · 23-03-2015, 19:44

Well, you could push that claim to 'test devices are non standard' making those current reviews with test device quite illegitimate too.

At another guess, I'd say the which and where of modem use will relate to patent cost.
Its usually cheaper to buy off Qualcomm than pay them patent fees on top of making the thing yourself.

Lidtop2013 · 23-03-2015, 22:08

I've never had an issue with my old iPhone 5S or my new iphone6, if I'm out all day then im doing something, if im doing something then I've got not time/don't want to have my head stuck in the phone, so if I'm not really using it it would last over 24hrs no problem. Some people are different though but that's me!

The Wizard · 23-03-2015, 22:18

I've had my S2 for just over 3 years now and my battery is dying and I'm about to replace it for a new one.

I'm happy with my S2 as it still does everything I want it to do and having paid nearly £500 for it when I first had it I'm not prepared to condemn it to the scrap heap and fork out £600 for an S6 just because of a dud battery. When you're paying that kind of money for a piece of tech you expect more than 3 years life out of it. If I bought a new tv and paid half a grand for it I'd expect it to last at least 5 years if not a bit more.

I would hate to think that after just a few years a £600 device was suddenly redundant because I was unable to replace the battery.

Not everybody has the money to change phones every couple of years. I also like the fact that I can have a spare battery on charge in case of emergencies as the battery life on these things is pretty intensive if you're using it all day.

Synthetic42 · 24-03-2015, 09:41

Another post on XDA with battery life, almost 24 hours on the S6 edge, I imagine the S6 should be a bit better as it has a slightly smaller screen to power, and this guy isn't using the final firmware

kidspud · 24-03-2015, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wizard

I've had my S2 for just over 3 years now and my battery is dying and I'm about to replace it for a new one.

I'm happy with my S2 as it still does everything I want it to do and having paid nearly £500 for it when I first had it I'm not prepared to condemn it to the scrap heap and fork out £600 for an S6 just because of a dud battery. When you're paying that kind of money for a piece of tech you expect more than 3 years life out of it. If I bought a new tv and paid half a grand for it I'd expect it to last at least 5 years if not a bit more.

I would hate to think that after just a few years a £600 device was suddenly redundant because I was unable to replace the battery.

Not everybody has the money to change phones every couple of years. I also like the fact that I can have a spare battery on charge in case of emergencies as the battery life on these things is pretty intensive if you're using it all day.

The battery isn't (easily) user replaceable. However, there are many places that will quite happily replace a battery. Apple provide battery replacement for their devices and you expect Samsung to do the same, so the device isn't redundent.

FreeFool · 24-03-2015, 10:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by DayDreamss

I probably will stick with my LG G3 because of the bad news that S6 lost an option to replace battery, though the S6 does look great in my eyes. Cannot decide yet. As for a non-removable phone, is there any ways to double the battery life since we cannot simply swap extended batteries? Ive seen extended battery case on mpj. Will this kind of accessory do any good?

May I ask how your G3 performs? I am reluctant to upgrade to an S6 due to the high contract prices (I need unlimited of data, or at least I use lots of it, I have no wifi).

The G3 is appealing due to the screen size. How does the battery perform? I am quite heavy internet/youtube/data user.

Otherwise I need to look at the other 2014 flagships that Three offer. They don't do the Nexus 6 unfortunately.

Chrysalis · 24-03-2015, 14:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Synthetic42

Another post on XDA with battery life, almost 24 hours on the S6 edge, I imagine the S6 should be a bit better as it has a slightly smaller screen to power, and this guy isn't using the final firmware

Wow that UI looks horrid compared to the S5 and kitkat.

Synthetic42 · 24-03-2015, 14:08

I agree, I think I saw somewhere there was theme customization which should help though

Chrysalis · 25-03-2015, 04:06

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUfvZs01ePI not valid anymore?

Tariq_ali1 · 25-03-2015, 22:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Another throwback myth from the days of Ni-Cad and Ni-Mh is that you should drain the battery as much as possible and charge to 100% often.
This is NOT the case with Lithium.
You should try not to let a Lithium go below 20% before charging and at least unplug it as soon as it says 100% or just before.

When a battery meter says 100% it's actually more like 80-85%. It will charge to the full 100% if you leave it going a bit longer.
This will give you more usage but will shorten the battery's life.

I used to charge my iPhone over night. bad idea. Now I charge for half an hour at breakfast, then take it to the office and plug it into the USB hub for however long I'm there and then continue charging in the car on the way to a job and so on.
There is a noticeable improvement in battery life.

It's hard to get out of that old way of doing things but Lithiums don't like it at all.

Good to know.
A change in habits is called for.

jchamier · 25-03-2015, 22:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUfvZs01ePI not valid anymore?

I see more Galaxy users charging their phones from their laptops at work (S2, S3 and S4 mostly) than iPhone users.

Walking around Heathrow or Gatwick I don't see people charging phones, maybe we just don't use public power in the UK

Chrysalis · 26-03-2015, 05:01

here is 40 min review of edge and normal s6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUaDgGvprE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVWoxVBcLNU

Alex_1 · 26-03-2015, 13:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chrysalis

here is 40 min review of edge and normal s6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUaDgGvprE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVWoxVBcLNU

Thanks for the links....very good

The Wizard · 27-03-2015, 23:23

Took a look at the S6 yesterday available to pre order. Not happy about the lack of removable battery. I don't like to think that if the battery fails or starts to fail after a year or 18 months that I'm stuck with a phone that is out of warranty that can't be fixed by a simple battery replacement.

Secondly I'm not happy that there's no removable SD Card for several reasons. I don't use or wish to pay a fortune for cloud storage. I've already used up most of my 64gb micro SD as I store loads of movies and photos. Not only will it take forever to back up over 64gb of media to a cloud service but I will have to pay a fair bit for the storage capacity plus If anything happens to my phone I will have to download it all again, providing everything is backed up to date, if not I may end up losing some photos or video where it's far easier to remove the SD card and throw it into another handset. I have a lot of HD movies stored on my SD card which I need access to. No good it being stored on a cloud drive and not having enough space on my phone to download it.

18 months ago my wife's phone completely died and I wasn't able to access the phone memory. Good job I could just remove the SD card and throw it in her new phone. No need to wait hours upon hours to download it all again. It was all there ready to go.

I'm about to buy a new 128gb card for my galaxy S4 as I've already used up most of the storage space. No good to me if I'm limited to internal storage only. I not only have photos and videos stored but documents and music as well as backups of all my aps. What good is all this on a cloud drive? I want it on my phone where I can get instant access to it.

Another problem I'm facing is the fact I'm still using Windows XP which doesn't support MTP devices. My S2 uses Mass Storage Device so I can connect my phone and directly access the phone and external media. However when I try to connect my wife's S4 which doesn't support mass storage device only MTP, the folders appear blank so the only way I can copy stuff to and from her phone is by removing the SD card and copying directly to it via my laptop's card reader, by Bluetooth which is too slow for copying that much media like videos or via a wifi transfer software/app which again is quite slow.

TobyS · 28-03-2015, 14:14

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Originally Posted by The Wizard

Secondly I'm not happy that there's no removable SD Card for several reasons. I don't use or wish to pay a fortune for cloud storage. I've already used up most of my 64gb micro SD as I store loads of movies and photos. Not only will it take forever to back up over 64gb of media to a cloud service but I will have to pay a fair bit for the storage capacity plus If anything happens to my phone I will have to download it all again, providing everything is backed up to date, if not I may end up losing some photos or video where it's far easier to remove the SD card and throw it into another handset. I have a lot of HD movies stored on my SD card which I need access to. No good it being stored on a cloud drive and not having enough space on my phone to download it.

This is 2015. Fast home broadband, public Wifi hotspots and 4G mean we no longer need to store media files on our phones. I take a lot of photos and videos for work, but I don't need to store them on my phone. In fact my priority is to get them off my phone and made accessible to my other devices as quickly as possible. Every photo I take is uploaded automatically to my FREE cloud storage (approximately 82GBs spread across Dropbox, OneDrive and Google Drive) within seconds. Larger files can be held back until I have a WiFi connection so I don't drain my data allowance. If I do need more space then 100GB is just £1.30 a month and 1TB is £6.70.

I don't know anyone who needs to store loads of photos and movies on their phones but I guess there are some who do. On the odd occasion when I take a photo or video I deem good enough to share with people, I'll upload it Facebook or Youtube or email it. I don't need to keep it on my phone where only I can see it. Should I ever feel the need to watch an HD film on a 5" screen I can simply stream it from the cloud. But that's me; I accept that your circumstances may differ, but most of the people I know use their phones for temporary storage. Even if you do want to store files locally, 64GB (or even 32GB) is enough for several HD films, thousands of MP3s and more apps than you can shake a stick at.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wizard

18 months ago my wife's phone completely died and I wasn't able to access the phone memory. Good job I could just remove the SD card and throw it in her new phone. No need to wait hours upon hours to download it all again. It was all there ready to go.

I'm about to buy a new 128gb card for my galaxy S4 as I've already used up most of the storage space. No good to me if I'm limited to internal storage only. I not only have photos and videos stored but documents and music as well as backups of all my aps. What good is all this on a cloud drive? I want it on my phone where I can get instant access to it.

By using the cloud you could have access to all those files on not just your phone but your laptop, PC and tablet too. I have an Excel spreadsheet which I use to keep track of my current jobs. I can access it from any of my devices (and even from someone else's). I'm not 100% sure where it's actually stored; it's just 'there' on all my devices. Sure, cloud storage isn't always instant. An MP3 might take a few extra seconds to open or I may have to wait 10 seconds for a film to buffer but I can live with that.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Wizard

Another problem I'm facing is the fact I'm still using Windows XP which doesn't support MTP devices. My S2 uses Mass Storage Device so I can connect my phone and directly access the phone and external media. However when I try to connect my wife's S4 which doesn't support mass storage device only MTP, the folders appear blank so the only way I can copy stuff to and from her phone is by removing the SD card and copying directly to it via my laptop's card reader, by Bluetooth which is too slow for copying that much media like videos or via a wifi transfer software/app which again is quite slow.

As much as I loved XP, even I have accepted that's it's a relic. I'm guessing you have a reason for sticking with it, perhaps some application that you like which has also been abandoned so it won't work on newer versions of Windows, but yours is an extraordinary case. You should probably look in to upgrading your WiFi too. An HD film shouldn't take more than a minute to transfer over an 802.11n network.

I for one will be getting an S6 in the next few weeks (as my S3 is too slow) and the 32GB version will be perfect for me. I'll have it configured for my cloud storage within a minute or two of switching it on. My Google apps will take a while to re-download but I can't imagine I'll be in any real hurry. I shouldn't be at all surprised if Samsung throw in another 50GB of Dropbox storage too.

Gigabit · 28-03-2015, 14:21

Having the ability to store music on my phone is a priority for me. My data connection just isn't good enough.

kidspud · 28-03-2015, 14:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

Having the ability to store music on my phone is a priority for me. My data connection just isn't good enough.

Maybe you should just buy an MP3 player. If you have a rubbish data connection, a smartphone seems like a bad choice.

Gigabit · 28-03-2015, 15:00

Quote:

Originally Posted by kidspud

Maybe you should just buy an MP3 player. If you have a rubbish data connection, a smartphone seems like a bad choice.

You seem really immature. My opinion differs from yours which you don't seem to be able to comprehend.

It is an undisputed fact that mobile data connections struggle on trains and buses as often you are moving quickly between masts and also the structures of these vehicles block the signals.

I do use my mobile data connection of course but I like to have the music on my phone so I can listen to it all the time.

If you are in an area of no signal, what are you supposed to do? Buying another device is a silly suggestion as my phone functions perfectly as an MP3 player; it is also a fantastic device for the Internet.

kidspud · 28-03-2015, 15:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

You seem really immature. My opinion differs from yours which you don't seem to be able to comprehend.

It is an undisputed fact that mobile data connections struggle on trains and buses as often you are moving quickly between masts and also the structures of these vehicles block the signals.

I do use my mobile data connection of course but I like to have the music on my phone so I can listen to it all the time.

If you are in an area of no signal, what are you supposed to do? Buying another device is a silly suggestion as my phone functions perfectly as an MP3 player; it is also a fantastic device for the Internet.

Well I glad you think I'm immature, it makes me feel a lot younger.

I don't care whether you view differs, I was just pointing out that if you have signal problems then a smartphone would be a very limited device to use and therefore an MP3 player would be better option.

WelshBluebird · 28-03-2015, 22:47

I really don't see how cloud storage can be seriously seen as being an option to totally kill local storage of media. Not yet anyway. Even in major cities there are still blackspots where coverage is non existent or just plain slow. On many tariffs data caps are so small you would hit them within days of relying on just the cloud. And that is without mentioning what happens when you go abroad on holiday! We just are not there yet.

TobyS · 28-03-2015, 23:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by WelshBluebird

I really don't see how cloud storage can be seriously seen as being an option to totally kill local storage of media. Not yet anyway. Even in major cities there are still blackspots where coverage is non existent or just plain slow. On many tariffs data caps are so small you would hit them within days of relying on just the cloud. And that is without mentioning what happens when you go abroad on holiday! We just are not there yet.

No one is proposing to totally kill local storage of media. Even the lowest capacity S6 has a massive 32GB of storage; four times what my S3 came with. I really think though that if you find yourself low on local storage you will learn to prioritize what you actually need to keep on your phone and what can be stored in the cloud. You'd be surprised at what you don't really need. Do you really need those thousands of photos you took at your cousin's wedding (that nobody wants to see!) or the 30 or so HD films (of which you will maybe watch one or two in a year)? Granted, it's nice to have that option of having them immediately available, but I'll wager you can get by without.

Everything Goes · 28-03-2015, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobyS

No one is proposing to totally kill local storage of media. Even the lowest capacity S6 has a massive 32GB of storage; four times what my S3 came with. I really think though that if you find yourself low on local storage you will learn to prioritize what you actually need to keep on your phone and what can be stored in the cloud. You'd be surprised at what you don't really need. Do you really need those thousands of photos you took at your cousin's wedding (that nobody wants to see!) or the 30 or so HD films (of which you will maybe watch one or two in a year)? Granted, it's nice to have that option of having them immediately available, but I'll wager you can get by without.

That so called "massive 32GB storage" is actually on 23GB as the core OS uses 9GB

http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1333...the-64gb-model

WelshBluebird · 28-03-2015, 23:48

Quote:

Originally Posted by TobyS

No one is proposing to totally kill local storage of media. Even the lowest capacity S6 has a massive 32GB of storage; four times what my S3 came with. I really think though that if you find yourself low on local storage you will learn to prioritize what you actually need to keep on your phone and what can be stored in the cloud. You'd be surprised at what you don't really need. Do you really need those thousands of photos you took at your cousin's wedding (that nobody wants to see!) or the 30 or so HD films (of which you will maybe watch one or two in a year)? Granted, it's nice to have that option of having them immediately available, but I'll wager you can get by without.

I think you will find you were proposing exactly that:

Quote:

This is 2015. Fast home broadband, public Wifi hotspots and 4G mean we no longer need to store media files on our phones

Also you have to remember that we are not talking about just media. Apps and games can also take up large amounts of storage space. These can't be stored in the cloud, and are sometimes large enough to make deleting them and redownloading them a pain in the backside.

TobyS · 29-03-2015, 00:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by WelshBluebird

I think you will find you were proposing exactly that:

Also you have to remember that we are not talking about just media. Apps and games can also take up large amounts of storage space. These can't be stored in the cloud, and are sometimes large enough to make deleting them and redownloading them a pain in the backside.

I'm not sure how you can read my post and come to the conclusion that I think we shouldn't have local storage

The point I was trying to get across is that we don't need huge amounts of it. When I leave home with my phone, I have roughly 94GB of storage at my disposal; only 12GB or so is local though. I use it for a few playlists and to record photos or videos and for my use it's more than enough. I also said that I could appreciate that other people might have a greater need for local storage than me but you seem to have missed that.

swills · 29-03-2015, 05:37

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Originally Posted by kidspud

Maybe you should just buy an MP3 player. If you have a rubbish data connection, a smartphone seems like a bad choice.

I have to agree with the poster saying no sd card removal / swap is a bad idea, I do noy use cloud services at all, dont trust them one bit ! and of course when you are in a location with no or bad reception you are stuffed, not sure I like the no battery chnage either, these are two backward steps by Samsung in my view, was looking at the S6, I broke my S4 and have a Lumina Windows phone at the mo, quite impressed with it, may hang on with Windows now !

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23-03-2015, 19:44	#26
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Well, you could push that claim to 'test devices are non standard' making those current reviews with test device quite illegitimate too. At another guess, I'd say the which and where of modem use will relate to patent cost. Its usually cheaper to buy off Qualcomm than pay them patent fees on top of making the thing yourself.

23-03-2015, 22:08	#27
Lidtop2013 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: West Midlands Posts: 2,450	I've never had an issue with my old iPhone 5S or my new iphone6, if I'm out all day then im doing something, if im doing something then I've got not time/don't want to have my head stuck in the phone, so if I'm not really using it it would last over 24hrs no problem. Some people are different though but that's me!

23-03-2015, 22:18	#28
The Wizard Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10,516	I've had my S2 for just over 3 years now and my battery is dying and I'm about to replace it for a new one. I'm happy with my S2 as it still does everything I want it to do and having paid nearly £500 for it when I first had it I'm not prepared to condemn it to the scrap heap and fork out £600 for an S6 just because of a dud battery. When you're paying that kind of money for a piece of tech you expect more than 3 years life out of it. If I bought a new tv and paid half a grand for it I'd expect it to last at least 5 years if not a bit more. I would hate to think that after just a few years a £600 device was suddenly redundant because I was unable to replace the battery. Not everybody has the money to change phones every couple of years. I also like the fact that I can have a spare battery on charge in case of emergencies as the battery life on these things is pretty intensive if you're using it all day.

24-03-2015, 09:41	#29
Synthetic42 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,510	Another post on XDA with battery life, almost 24 hours on the S6 edge, I imagine the S6 should be a bit better as it has a slightly smaller screen to power, and this guy isn't using the final firmware

24-03-2015, 09:45	#30
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by The Wizard I've had my S2 for just over 3 years now and my battery is dying and I'm about to replace it for a new one. I'm happy with my S2 as it still does everything I want it to do and having paid nearly £500 for it when I first had it I'm not prepared to condemn it to the scrap heap and fork out £600 for an S6 just because of a dud battery. When you're paying that kind of money for a piece of tech you expect more than 3 years life out of it. If I bought a new tv and paid half a grand for it I'd expect it to last at least 5 years if not a bit more. I would hate to think that after just a few years a £600 device was suddenly redundant because I was unable to replace the battery. Not everybody has the money to change phones every couple of years. I also like the fact that I can have a spare battery on charge in case of emergencies as the battery life on these things is pretty intensive if you're using it all day. The battery isn't (easily) user replaceable. However, there are many places that will quite happily replace a battery. Apple provide battery replacement for their devices and you expect Samsung to do the same, so the device isn't redundent.

24-03-2015, 10:17	#31
FreeFool Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Posts: 125	Quote: Originally Posted by DayDreamss I probably will stick with my LG G3 because of the bad news that S6 lost an option to replace battery, though the S6 does look great in my eyes. Cannot decide yet. As for a non-removable phone, is there any ways to double the battery life since we cannot simply swap extended batteries? Ive seen extended battery case on mpj. Will this kind of accessory do any good? May I ask how your G3 performs? I am reluctant to upgrade to an S6 due to the high contract prices (I need unlimited of data, or at least I use lots of it, I have no wifi). The G3 is appealing due to the screen size. How does the battery perform? I am quite heavy internet/youtube/data user. Otherwise I need to look at the other 2014 flagships that Three offer. They don't do the Nexus 6 unfortunately.

24-03-2015, 14:04	#32
Chrysalis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leics Posts: 581	Quote: Originally Posted by Synthetic42 Another post on XDA with battery life, almost 24 hours on the S6 edge, I imagine the S6 should be a bit better as it has a slightly smaller screen to power, and this guy isn't using the final firmware Wow that UI looks horrid compared to the S5 and kitkat.

24-03-2015, 14:08	#33
Synthetic42 Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Newcastle Posts: 1,510	I agree, I think I saw somewhere there was theme customization which should help though

25-03-2015, 04:06	#34
Chrysalis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leics Posts: 581	https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUfvZs01ePI not valid anymore?

25-03-2015, 22:23	#35
Tariq_ali1 Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Posts: 61	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke Another throwback myth from the days of Ni-Cad and Ni-Mh is that you should drain the battery as much as possible and charge to 100% often. This is NOT the case with Lithium. You should try not to let a Lithium go below 20% before charging and at least unplug it as soon as it says 100% or just before. When a battery meter says 100% it's actually more like 80-85%. It will charge to the full 100% if you leave it going a bit longer. This will give you more usage but will shorten the battery's life. I used to charge my iPhone over night. bad idea. Now I charge for half an hour at breakfast, then take it to the office and plug it into the USB hub for however long I'm there and then continue charging in the car on the way to a job and so on. There is a noticeable improvement in battery life. It's hard to get out of that old way of doing things but Lithiums don't like it at all. Good to know. A change in habits is called for.

25-03-2015, 22:28	#36
jchamier Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2000 Location: This forum Posts: 3,392	Quote: Originally Posted by Chrysalis https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jUfvZs01ePI not valid anymore? I see more Galaxy users charging their phones from their laptops at work (S2, S3 and S4 mostly) than iPhone users. Walking around Heathrow or Gatwick I don't see people charging phones, maybe we just don't use public power in the UK

26-03-2015, 05:01	#37
Chrysalis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leics Posts: 581	here is 40 min review of edge and normal s6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUaDgGvprE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVWoxVBcLNU

26-03-2015, 13:52	#38
Alex_1 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Leeds Posts: 113	Quote: Originally Posted by Chrysalis here is 40 min review of edge and normal s6 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tcUaDgGvprE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GVWoxVBcLNU Thanks for the links....very good

27-03-2015, 23:23	#39
The Wizard Guest Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 10,516	Took a look at the S6 yesterday available to pre order. Not happy about the lack of removable battery. I don't like to think that if the battery fails or starts to fail after a year or 18 months that I'm stuck with a phone that is out of warranty that can't be fixed by a simple battery replacement. Secondly I'm not happy that there's no removable SD Card for several reasons. I don't use or wish to pay a fortune for cloud storage. I've already used up most of my 64gb micro SD as I store loads of movies and photos. Not only will it take forever to back up over 64gb of media to a cloud service but I will have to pay a fair bit for the storage capacity plus If anything happens to my phone I will have to download it all again, providing everything is backed up to date, if not I may end up losing some photos or video where it's far easier to remove the SD card and throw it into another handset. I have a lot of HD movies stored on my SD card which I need access to. No good it being stored on a cloud drive and not having enough space on my phone to download it. 18 months ago my wife's phone completely died and I wasn't able to access the phone memory. Good job I could just remove the SD card and throw it in her new phone. No need to wait hours upon hours to download it all again. It was all there ready to go. I'm about to buy a new 128gb card for my galaxy S4 as I've already used up most of the storage space. No good to me if I'm limited to internal storage only. I not only have photos and videos stored but documents and music as well as backups of all my aps. What good is all this on a cloud drive? I want it on my phone where I can get instant access to it. Another problem I'm facing is the fact I'm still using Windows XP which doesn't support MTP devices. My S2 uses Mass Storage Device so I can connect my phone and directly access the phone and external media. However when I try to connect my wife's S4 which doesn't support mass storage device only MTP, the folders appear blank so the only way I can copy stuff to and from her phone is by removing the SD card and copying directly to it via my laptop's card reader, by Bluetooth which is too slow for copying that much media like videos or via a wifi transfer software/app which again is quite slow.

28-03-2015, 14:14	#40
TobyS Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Troll hunting Posts: 733	Quote: Originally Posted by The Wizard Secondly I'm not happy that there's no removable SD Card for several reasons. I don't use or wish to pay a fortune for cloud storage. I've already used up most of my 64gb micro SD as I store loads of movies and photos. Not only will it take forever to back up over 64gb of media to a cloud service but I will have to pay a fair bit for the storage capacity plus If anything happens to my phone I will have to download it all again, providing everything is backed up to date, if not I may end up losing some photos or video where it's far easier to remove the SD card and throw it into another handset. I have a lot of HD movies stored on my SD card which I need access to. No good it being stored on a cloud drive and not having enough space on my phone to download it. This is 2015. Fast home broadband, public Wifi hotspots and 4G mean we no longer need to store media files on our phones. I take a lot of photos and videos for work, but I don't need to store them on my phone. In fact my priority is to get them off my phone and made accessible to my other devices as quickly as possible. Every photo I take is uploaded automatically to my FREE cloud storage (approximately 82GBs spread across Dropbox, OneDrive and Google Drive) within seconds. Larger files can be held back until I have a WiFi connection so I don't drain my data allowance. If I do need more space then 100GB is just £1.30 a month and 1TB is £6.70. I don't know anyone who needs to store loads of photos and movies on their phones but I guess there are some who do. On the odd occasion when I take a photo or video I deem good enough to share with people, I'll upload it Facebook or Youtube or email it. I don't need to keep it on my phone where only I can see it. Should I ever feel the need to watch an HD film on a 5" screen I can simply stream it from the cloud. But that's me; I accept that your circumstances may differ, but most of the people I know use their phones for temporary storage. Even if you do want to store files locally, 64GB (or even 32GB) is enough for several HD films, thousands of MP3s and more apps than you can shake a stick at. Quote: Originally Posted by The Wizard 18 months ago my wife's phone completely died and I wasn't able to access the phone memory. Good job I could just remove the SD card and throw it in her new phone. No need to wait hours upon hours to download it all again. It was all there ready to go. I'm about to buy a new 128gb card for my galaxy S4 as I've already used up most of the storage space. No good to me if I'm limited to internal storage only. I not only have photos and videos stored but documents and music as well as backups of all my aps. What good is all this on a cloud drive? I want it on my phone where I can get instant access to it. By using the cloud you could have access to all those files on not just your phone but your laptop, PC and tablet too. I have an Excel spreadsheet which I use to keep track of my current jobs. I can access it from any of my devices (and even from someone else's). I'm not 100% sure where it's actually stored; it's just 'there' on all my devices. Sure, cloud storage isn't always instant. An MP3 might take a few extra seconds to open or I may have to wait 10 seconds for a film to buffer but I can live with that. Quote: Originally Posted by The Wizard Another problem I'm facing is the fact I'm still using Windows XP which doesn't support MTP devices. My S2 uses Mass Storage Device so I can connect my phone and directly access the phone and external media. However when I try to connect my wife's S4 which doesn't support mass storage device only MTP, the folders appear blank so the only way I can copy stuff to and from her phone is by removing the SD card and copying directly to it via my laptop's card reader, by Bluetooth which is too slow for copying that much media like videos or via a wifi transfer software/app which again is quite slow. As much as I loved XP, even I have accepted that's it's a relic. I'm guessing you have a reason for sticking with it, perhaps some application that you like which has also been abandoned so it won't work on newer versions of Windows, but yours is an extraordinary case. You should probably look in to upgrading your WiFi too. An HD film shouldn't take more than a minute to transfer over an 802.11n network. I for one will be getting an S6 in the next few weeks (as my S3 is too slow) and the 32GB version will be perfect for me. I'll have it configured for my cloud storage within a minute or two of switching it on. My Google apps will take a while to re-download but I can't imagine I'll be in any real hurry. I shouldn't be at all surprised if Samsung throw in another 50GB of Dropbox storage too.

28-03-2015, 14:21	#41
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Having the ability to store music on my phone is a priority for me. My data connection just isn't good enough.

28-03-2015, 14:28	#42
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit Having the ability to store music on my phone is a priority for me. My data connection just isn't good enough. Maybe you should just buy an MP3 player. If you have a rubbish data connection, a smartphone seems like a bad choice.

28-03-2015, 15:00	#43
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Maybe you should just buy an MP3 player. If you have a rubbish data connection, a smartphone seems like a bad choice. You seem really immature. My opinion differs from yours which you don't seem to be able to comprehend. It is an undisputed fact that mobile data connections struggle on trains and buses as often you are moving quickly between masts and also the structures of these vehicles block the signals. I do use my mobile data connection of course but I like to have the music on my phone so I can listen to it all the time. If you are in an area of no signal, what are you supposed to do? Buying another device is a silly suggestion as my phone functions perfectly as an MP3 player; it is also a fantastic device for the Internet.

28-03-2015, 15:53	#44
kidspud Forum Member Join Date: May 2010 Posts: 11,501	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit You seem really immature. My opinion differs from yours which you don't seem to be able to comprehend. It is an undisputed fact that mobile data connections struggle on trains and buses as often you are moving quickly between masts and also the structures of these vehicles block the signals. I do use my mobile data connection of course but I like to have the music on my phone so I can listen to it all the time. If you are in an area of no signal, what are you supposed to do? Buying another device is a silly suggestion as my phone functions perfectly as an MP3 player; it is also a fantastic device for the Internet. Well I glad you think I'm immature, it makes me feel a lot younger. I don't care whether you view differs, I was just pointing out that if you have signal problems then a smartphone would be a very limited device to use and therefore an MP3 player would be better option.

28-03-2015, 22:47	#45
WelshBluebird Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Posts: 720	I really don't see how cloud storage can be seriously seen as being an option to totally kill local storage of media. Not yet anyway. Even in major cities there are still blackspots where coverage is non existent or just plain slow. On many tariffs data caps are so small you would hit them within days of relying on just the cloud. And that is without mentioning what happens when you go abroad on holiday! We just are not there yet.

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28-03-2015, 23:37	#46
TobyS Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Troll hunting Posts: 733	Quote: Originally Posted by WelshBluebird I really don't see how cloud storage can be seriously seen as being an option to totally kill local storage of media. Not yet anyway. Even in major cities there are still blackspots where coverage is non existent or just plain slow. On many tariffs data caps are so small you would hit them within days of relying on just the cloud. And that is without mentioning what happens when you go abroad on holiday! We just are not there yet. No one is proposing to totally kill local storage of media. Even the lowest capacity S6 has a massive 32GB of storage; four times what my S3 came with. I really think though that if you find yourself low on local storage you will learn to prioritize what you actually need to keep on your phone and what can be stored in the cloud. You'd be surprised at what you don't really need. Do you really need those thousands of photos you took at your cousin's wedding (that nobody wants to see!) or the 30 or so HD films (of which you will maybe watch one or two in a year)? Granted, it's nice to have that option of having them immediately available, but I'll wager you can get by without.

28-03-2015, 23:48	#47
Everything Goes Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In the future.... Posts: 11,259	Quote: Originally Posted by TobyS No one is proposing to totally kill local storage of media. Even the lowest capacity S6 has a massive 32GB of storage; four times what my S3 came with. I really think though that if you find yourself low on local storage you will learn to prioritize what you actually need to keep on your phone and what can be stored in the cloud. You'd be surprised at what you don't really need. Do you really need those thousands of photos you took at your cousin's wedding (that nobody wants to see!) or the 30 or so HD films (of which you will maybe watch one or two in a year)? Granted, it's nice to have that option of having them immediately available, but I'll wager you can get by without. That so called "massive 32GB storage" is actually on 23GB as the core OS uses 9GB http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/1333...the-64gb-model

29-03-2015, 00:30	#49
TobyS Forum Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: Troll hunting Posts: 733	Quote: Originally Posted by WelshBluebird I think you will find you were proposing exactly that: Also you have to remember that we are not talking about just media. Apps and games can also take up large amounts of storage space. These can't be stored in the cloud, and are sometimes large enough to make deleting them and redownloading them a pain in the backside. I'm not sure how you can read my post and come to the conclusion that I think we shouldn't have local storage The point I was trying to get across is that we don't need huge amounts of it. When I leave home with my phone, I have roughly 94GB of storage at my disposal; only 12GB or so is local though. I use it for a few playlists and to record photos or videos and for my use it's more than enough. I also said that I could appreciate that other people might have a greater need for local storage than me but you seem to have missed that.

29-03-2015, 05:37	#50
swills Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Essex Posts: 3,906	Quote: Originally Posted by kidspud Maybe you should just buy an MP3 player. If you have a rubbish data connection, a smartphone seems like a bad choice. I have to agree with the poster saying no sd card removal / swap is a bad idea, I do noy use cloud services at all, dont trust them one bit ! and of course when you are in a location with no or bad reception you are stuffed, not sure I like the no battery chnage either, these are two backward steps by Samsung in my view, was looking at the S6, I broke my S4 and have a Lumina Windows phone at the mo, quite impressed with it, may hang on with Windows now !