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Old 30-03-2015, 22:22
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But...why ? Why is it any more odd than a Tuesday? I don't follow.

ITV shows so little comedy (a shamefully low amount for a leading commercial network IMO) that you could argue they would look odd in just about any timeslot.

Putting them on a Tuesday would be giving them no chance whatsoever looking at their run of form in that slot. They just don't fire there for whatever reason, we know that. Comedy is a hard genre at the best of times, so don't make it even harder than it has to be when results are needed !
Well the only reason is because everything struggles on Tuesday, comedy is something thatsis rare on ITV in weekdays. Not saying it won't do well on Weds but they need to try new things on Tuesday. ITV just seems to have given up on that day.

I just wanted to see something lighter on Tuesday. I don't think I have ever watched ITV on a Tuesday bar when IAC is on, or the semi finals of a BGT series.

That's basically the only reason. Slot means a lot in the US so it can mean a lot here too. For example, the ABC networks successful Weds comedy block. Put them on a Tuesday and they will all plummet. The Goldbergs was on the brink of being cancelled on ABC on Tuesday but since moving to Weds on the second series it nearly doubled its ratings.

With NBC Thursdays, that's a death slot. They always try and recreate a Friends success but since then, NBC has always struggled on Thurs.

So my earlier post was based on experimentation. Comedies could do well on the Tuesday slot. That's all im saying. They should try different things on Tues to see what works. I think Mondays and Wednesdays are probably doing the best out if all the days on ITV (Saturday is being saved by SNT).
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Old 30-03-2015, 22:30
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Seems odd Still Open All Hours hasn't been re commissioned after a very successful series.

The most popular BBC sitcom is now 40 year old repeats of Dads Army and afternoon showing of classic 80s sitcoms .
Surely it's only a matter of time unless either Roy Clarke or David Jason have something else on.
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Old 30-03-2015, 22:52
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Well the only reason is because everything struggles on Tuesday, comedy is something thatsis rare on ITV in weekdays. Not saying it won't do well on Weds but they need to try new things on Tuesday. ITV just seems to have given up on that day.

I just wanted to see something lighter on Tuesday. I don't think I have ever watched ITV on a Tuesday bar when IAC is on, or the semi finals of a BGT series.

That's basically the only reason. Slot means a lot in the US so it can mean a lot here too. For example, the ABC networks successful Weds comedy block. Put them on a Tuesday and they will all plummet. The Goldbergs was on the brink of being cancelled on ABC on Tuesday but since moving to Weds on the second series it nearly doubled its ratings.

With NBC Thursdays, that's a death slot. They always try and recreate a Friends success but since then, NBC has always struggled on Thurs.

So my earlier post was based on experimentation. Comedies could do well on the Tuesday slot. That's all im saying. They should try different things on Tues to see what works. I think Mondays and Wednesdays are probably doing the best out if all the days on ITV (Saturday is being saved by SNT).
Itv cant use Tuesday till after the Champions League ends
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:04
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Saturday multichannel

ITV3 - 08:00 PM Foyle's War 858 4.2% 2
BBC News - 08:00 AM Breakfast 691 10.5% 3
ITV3 - 07:00 PM Doc Martin 629 3.0% 4
BBC News - 09:00 AM BBC News 628 8.0% 5
BBC Four - 09:00 PM Inspector Montalbano 615 3.5% 6
BBC Three - 10:30 PM Live at the Apollo 573 4.3% 7
ITV2 - 04:50 PM Mr Bean 568 4.5% 8
BBC Three - 11:00 PM Family Guy 516 5.2% 9
ITV2 - 04:20 PM Mr Bean 486 4.3% 10
BBC Three - 10:00 PM Live at the Apollo 476 2.9% - See more at:

http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/#sthash.KoWGCh1a.dpuf

Classic episode of Mr Bean did well for ITV2.
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:05
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Itv cant use Tuesday till after the Champions League ends
Good point. If they didn't have to have the news at 10 (which usually only attract like 2m) I would have said stick comedy on after the matches.

But yeah you are right though.
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:08
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Saturday multichannel

ITV3 - 08:00 PM Foyle's War 858 4.2% 2
BBC News - 08:00 AM Breakfast 691 10.5% 3
ITV3 - 07:00 PM Doc Martin 629 3.0% 4
BBC News - 09:00 AM BBC News 628 8.0% 5
BBC Four - 09:00 PM Inspector Montalbano 615 3.5% 6
BBC Three - 10:30 PM Live at the Apollo 573 4.3% 7
ITV2 - 04:50 PM Mr Bean 568 4.5% 8
BBC Three - 11:00 PM Family Guy 516 5.2% 9
ITV2 - 04:20 PM Mr Bean 486 4.3% 10
BBC Three - 10:00 PM Live at the Apollo 476 2.9% - See more at:

http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/#sthash.KoWGCh1a.dpuf

Classic episode of Mr Bean did well for ITV2.
Very good for Mr Bean. As ITV is currently on a 'Bring back older shows' experiment, Mr Bean could return

No matter how old Atkinson gets, he will always be able to play that role. He doesn't look any different. Such a simple show but a great one.
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:10
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Saturday multichannel

ITV3 - 08:00 PM Foyle's War 858 4.2% 2
BBC News - 08:00 AM Breakfast 691 10.5% 3
ITV3 - 07:00 PM Doc Martin 629 3.0% 4
BBC News - 09:00 AM BBC News 628 8.0% 5
BBC Four - 09:00 PM Inspector Montalbano 615 3.5% 6
BBC Three - 10:30 PM Live at the Apollo 573 4.3% 7
ITV2 - 04:50 PM Mr Bean 568 4.5% 8
BBC Three - 11:00 PM Family Guy 516 5.2% 9
ITV2 - 04:20 PM Mr Bean 486 4.3% 10
BBC Three - 10:00 PM Live at the Apollo 476 2.9% - See more at:

http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/#sthash.KoWGCh1a.dpuf

Classic episode of Mr Bean did well for ITV2.
ITV2's daytime performance was a fair bit stronger than their primetime numbers over the weekend.

Not sure Ibiza Weekender will be getting renewed. Last night's series closer mustered 0.32m (1.3%) at 9pm which is only okay. I think ITV will have expected more, especially with little in the way of 16-34 competition on the main channels. And over the course of the 8 weeks it probably hasn't done enough.
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:13
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Worst rating of the weekend must be Indian Summers still dropping to under million.C4 must be getting worried having already ordered a second series.
Perhaps? but it will probably export well. Its the sort of thing the Yanks enjoy. It will probably win all the awards going next year and it is pretty decent to watch. So I suspect Channel Four are pleased they have commisoned a second series. A tough slot, a shame the beeb are so strong in that slot on a Sunday. Poldark is doing very nicely. Perhaps a mid week slot for the second series?
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:15
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Very good for Mr Bean. As ITV is currently on a 'Bring back older shows' experiment, Mr Bean could return

No matter how old Atkinson gets, he will always be able to play that role. He doesn't look any different. Such a simple show but a great one.
I imagine ITV have tried but Rowan Atkinson has limited Mr Bean to one off sketches and ads in recent years, nothing full length since Mr Bean's Holiday. He's doing Maigret for ITV which will be different since he's more known for comedy.
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:16
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Yes, there's no excuse for Corrie to fail on a Sunday night at eight o'clock, it's a Sunday night at eight o'clock. A brilliant slot.
I agree, it does not get much better than that. Thought it might have been a little higher?
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:31
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Perhaps? but it will probably export well. Its the sort of thing the Yanks enjoy. It will probably win all the awards going next year and it is pretty decent to watch. So I suspect Channel Four are pleased they have commisoned a second series. A tough slot, a shame the beeb are so strong in that slot on a Sunday. Poldark is doing very nicely. Perhaps a mid week slot for the second series?
I wouldn't be as quick as you to blame the slot, although it's not one I'd have chosen so I don't disagree that it was not the best choice. I can't help but feel there's more to it than that though. It's a very hard to assess because of this huge gap between the overnights and officials. Two pieces of information, both telling you very different things. I preferred the simpler days of there being relatively little between them and the official only serving to confirm what you already knew. It's not much good having all this data and now the 28 day stuff too if at the end of it you still don't know what to think.

Obviously it's been disappointing what's happened in the overnights but at the same time I don't think it's quite the flop some are desperate to make it out to be. It would be different if it was timeshifting at a more normal level, but part of the problem I think is normal seems to have gone out the window when it comes to certain drama timeshifts recently. And this becomes more magnified when you look away from the big two.

But then BBC Two manages appointment to view drama (e.g. Banished) so it can still be done.
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Old 30-03-2015, 23:36
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I wouldn't be as quick as you to blame the slot, although it's not one I'd have chosen so I don't disagree that it was not the best choice. I can't help but feel there's more to it than that though. It's a very hard to assess because of this huge gap between the overnights and officials. Two pieces of information, both telling you very different things. I preferred the simpler days of there being relatively little between them and the official only serving to confirm what you already knew. It's not much good having all this data and now the 28 day stuff too if at the end of it you still don't know what to think.

Obviously it's been disappointing what's happened in the overnights but at the same time I don't think it's quite the flop some are desperate to make it out to be. It would be different if it was timeshifting at a more normal level, but part of the problem I think is normal seems to have gone out the window when it comes to certain drama timeshifts recently. And this becomes more magnified when you look away from the big two.

But then BBC Two manages appointment to view drama (e.g. Banished) so it can still be done.
Good point. It makes me wonder how accurate the barb figures are?
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Old 31-03-2015, 00:44
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Old 31-03-2015, 09:44
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BBC biblical drama #TheArk won its slot post #Corrie with avge of 4.3m/19.2% @RedPlanetTV http://www.overnights.tv
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Old 31-03-2015, 09:48
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Surely it's only a matter of time unless either Roy Clarke or David Jason have something else on.
I think one problem is that Roy Clarke is now 85 and may not be up to writing another six episodes.
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Old 31-03-2015, 09:55
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Monday, March 30
BBC One
20:00 EastEnders: 6.93m (30.9%)
20:30 The Ark: 4.28m (19.2%)
22:00 BBC News at Ten: 4.08m (23.4%)

BBC Two
20:00 Only Connect: 2.36m (10.1%)
20:30 University Challenge: 2.89m (12.9%)
21:00 Kew on a Plate: 1.61m (7.4%)

ITV (exc. +1)
19:00 Emmerdale: 6.27m (33.2%)
19:30 Coronation Street: 7.52m (36.7%)
20:30 Coronation Street: 7.2m (30.6%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
20:00 Food Unwrapped: 1.03m (4.6%)
20:30 Travel Man: 48 Hours in Barcelona: 1.26m (5.4%)
21:00 Britain's Benefit Tenants: 1.56m (7.2%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
20:00 Police Interceptors: 0.77m (3.4%)
21:00 Gotham: 0.87m (4.0%)
22:00 Person of Interest: 0.64m (4.0%)
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Old 31-03-2015, 09:59
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Look at the soaps!
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:05
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Are we sure everything other than BBC includes HD?
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:05
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Look at the soaps!
I was wondering if the ITV soap numbers were tapechecked because otherwise they are dire.
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:07
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It doesn't say anything about ITV excluding HD, but perhaps it does. I'll amend accordingly when DS updates.

In the mean time, a few multichannel numbers of note (again exc. +1):

Hollyoaks (E4): 0.60m / 3.2%
Modern Family (Sky1): 0.46m / 2.1%
Bluestone 42 (BBC Three): 0.40m / 2.3%
Would I Lie to You? (Dave): 0.36m / 2.5%
Criminal Minds (Sky Living): 0.29m / 1.3%
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:09
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Are we sure everything other than BBC includes HD?
This looks more like it. EastEnders still on the lowish side but Corrie around 7m.

http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/soaps/s3...p8uZrIhUMEQi3L
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:11
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Corrie was the most-watched show of the day, bringing in 7.52m (36.7%) at 7.30pm on ITV and 141k (0.6%) on +1 as Sarah arrived back on the cobbles for a showdown with her daughter Bethany. 7.2m (30.6%) returned at 8.30pm and 161k (0.7%) on +1 as the pair clashed over Bethany's bad behaviour.
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:12
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Apologies for the mistake, wasn't intended to mislead. I'm trying out the Broadcast app which I've only had a day.

It's going to be useless for ITV numbers due to the lack of HD. It's already pretty unhelpful for the commercial channels due to a lack of +1.

Post amended with the HD included numbers.
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:17
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Apologies for the mistake, wasn't intended to mislead. I'm trying out the Broadcast app which I've only had a day.

It's going to be useless for ITV numbers due to the lack of HD. It's already pretty useless for the commercial channels due to a lack of +1.

Post amended with the HD included numbers.
I think the app is probably best for reading news. Surprised they get the ITV ratings split out like that unlike the website.
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Old 31-03-2015, 10:19
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The Mafia with Trevor McDonald got 3.4m (3.7m with +1) - surprisingly low, given how well it did last week, and how good it was.

Amazingly, The Ark - despite being awful - actually grew its audience while on air. It started with 3.9m and ended with 4.7m.
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