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Old 28-04-2015, 20:13
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Well, as we "know" (ie, I remember Sandi Toksvig saying it on Light Lunch) the lowest rated BBC1 primetime rating was probably the SNP Leader Interview in 1997, inexplicably networked, shown at 8.30, not opposite a soap and at a time when the SNP were totally irrelevant outside Scotland. This time the SNP are far more relevant nationwide and it was opposite Corrie so there's no way it can be worse scheduling than that.

I don't think last night was that big a disaster, Panorama's gone lower than that before and Panorama's never going to rate well. The Leader Interviews are PSB ballast opposite Corrie and I know New Tricks is never that welcome but it's a bit of a funny week because next week is a Bank Holiday so you can't really start anything new there. And obviously Dispatches was on a very populist subect. Swings and roundabouts, could well be Panorama beating Dispatches next time.



I don't think ITV will be that bothered, they know they're never going to win on the night but they have all the resources there and they've got to cover everything for the news anyway, so it's a no-brainer to do a show regardless, it'd probably be less cost-effective not to do one. For all we talk about dumbing down, ITV have done more regarding elections in recent years because we now have an all-nighter for the US Elections whereas in the nineties we never had that.

It's an interesting one, the C4 one, because with both last time round and the Election Night Armistice I always found it was falling between two stools a bit because people interested in politics are going to watch the proper coverage and people who aren't interested in politics aren't going to watch political comedy at all. Certainly in 1997 nothing the Armistice did was more exciting than the actual election coverage. But this time, as you say, it's going on until 6am and does seem to be sold as proper full coverage. In the past that wouldn't have been possible because you'd have needed a huge infrastructure to do this kind of thing but these days, what with all the silicon chips and such, you can do it all making use of Twitter, Skype and so on.

Of course the other interesting thing we've got coming up too is the royal baby. Part of me really wants Kate to hold on until election night itself, just because I'd love to see them have to juggle between the two, or indeed the next day just to add to the chaos of the weekend with the VE Day commemorations to fit in as well. I really don't want her to give birth just before polling day, in case everyone is so happy they think everything's brilliant and all go and vote Tory.



Oh, dear me, what is it with all these under-predictions? No slight on you personally, but it's a new Peter Kay sitcom, it'll get a huge audience, he has more goodwill than any other comedian on the planet. He gets at least three million viewers for the trilionth repeat of one of his DVDs on Channel Four. Surely the nearest thing to a guaranteed hit BBC1 can get. Like having Samuel back!
Well I hope that it does well as there is few comedy on the main channels at the moment and W1A is now rubbish.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:17
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Well I hope that it does well as there is few comedy on the main channels at the moment and W1A is now rubbish.
Matter of taste I loved W1A last week very funny very topical .
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:34
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Matter of taste I loved W1A last week very funny very topical .
It was a bit too long, Should only be half a hour with better jokes. Also its too serious at the moment. Want some fun to happen.
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:43
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Of course the other interesting thing we've got coming up too is the royal baby. Part of me really wants Kate to hold on until election night itself, just because I'd love to see them have to juggle between the two, or indeed the next day just to add to the chaos of the weekend with the VE Day commemorations to fit in as well. I really don't want her to give birth just before polling day, in case everyone is so happy they think everything's brilliant and all go and vote Tory.


With you completely on that one.

Oh, dear me, what is it with all these under-predictions? No slight on you personally, but it's a new Peter Kay sitcom, it'll get a huge audience, he has more goodwill than any other comedian on the planet. He gets at least three million viewers for the trilionth repeat of one of his DVDs on Channel Four. Surely the nearest thing to a guaranteed hit BBC1 can get. Like having Samuel back!
Agreed again. It's taken a while to get to screens for whatever reason, but hard to see it not going particularly well. And The Delivery Man was a gift from ITV. Nothing to beat and the Peter Kay factor is a winning recipe, for sure.

Matter of taste I loved W1A last week very funny very topical .
One thing you can't help but notice about W1A is the amount it is trailed. I've seen it before/after what feels like every single BBC programme I've watched in the past week . What's that all about?
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Old 28-04-2015, 20:56
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Are posters expecting 6m or so for Car Share?? I really enjoyed it, I will be surprised if it gets a killer rating - but it deserves a good rating. All 6 episodes were in the iPlayer Top 15 earlier today, it gets pulled at midnight. Just to point out that they were in linear order of popularity.
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Old 28-04-2015, 21:13
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I wonder how Empire will do. It had the biggest growth throughout its season in the US since Greys Anatomy in 2006. Started with around 9m and reached 19m at the end. I wonder if it will be as big as TBBT on E4. So much discussion on Twitter already and its been trending on and off all day. Can'treremember the last time a show on E4 has done that. The Inbetweeners?
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Old 28-04-2015, 21:15
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Matter of taste I loved W1A last week very funny very topical .
I felt the hour episode dragged, the characters that are funny annoying ended up annoying annoying. Considering it's basically one joke, it works better in half hour segments.

It is trailed a lot, considering it's a BBC2 show, but then again Thunderbirds was trailed a lot, so it shows both main broadcasters promotions departments move in strange ways.

Are posters expecting 6m or so for Car Share?? I really enjoyed it, I will be surprised if it gets a killer rating - but it deserves a good rating. All 6 episodes were in the iPlayer Top 15 earlier today, it gets pulled at midnight. Just to point out that they were in linear order of popularity.
8pm drama running across the 9pm junction, which hardly ever happens, half hour slot, low rating competition, popular star who gets 3m for a repeat of a DVD everyone has at home, first episode should get 6m.

Not sure I want to see the episodes in the top 10 on iplayer, this adds fuel to the argument from people who say iplayer is the future and to axe BBC3 TV.

Still think it's particularly sharp practice, scheduling to just happen to run a 90 min drama across Newzoids which looked like it could have been a returning hit rather than having a 9pm junction like on the other 250 weekdays a year and then running same genre competition at 9:30pm, the first prime time weekday comedy sitcom we've had on BBC1 all year so far, when it's been on the shelf years, but there you go, nobody else will agree.
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Old 28-04-2015, 21:25
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With you completely on that one.

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It'd be a waste, massive news stories do tend to happen one at once with a few notable exceptions (Nelson Mandela being one). With no party likely to win outright, the election coverage will drag out for weeks though, so she's not going to get anywhere near 100% of the airtime unless she holds out until June!
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Old 28-04-2015, 23:25
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I wonder how Empire will do. It had the biggest growth throughout its season in the US since Greys Anatomy in 2006. Started with around 9m and reached 19m at the end. I wonder if it will be as big as TBBT on E4. So much discussion on Twitter already and its been trending on and off all day. Can'treremember the last time a show on E4 has done that. The Inbetweeners?
I really enjoyed it and will definitely be tuning in next week. Hope it gets a decent rating.
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Old 29-04-2015, 00:10
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don't believe what you read,certainly on the soap forum. Watch them, then you'd know!
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:44
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Car Share did well on iPlayer. What will it mean for the BBC1 ratings?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...name=corporate
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:48
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Empire launched with a disappointing 0.44m (2.2%) for E4, excluding the +1 channel.

I had a funny feeling this one wouldn't be as big in the UK. But then I got sucked in by the hype and expected a 1m+ launch at least with all the promotion.

Still, maybe it will grow as was the case in America.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:49
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Empire launched with a disappointing 0.44m (2.2%) for E4, excluding the +1 channel.

I had a funny feeling this one wouldn't be as big in the UK. But then I got sucked in by the hype and expected a 1m+ launch at least with all the promotion.

Still, maybe it will grow as was the case in America.
Some more Empire info here:

"Empire launched with 552K on E4 last night - behind Stacey Dooley's BBC3 doc on 596K"
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:50
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Car Share did well on iPlayer. What will it mean for the BBC1 ratings?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...name=corporate
Wouldn't be suprised if it doesn't beat George Gently and Corrie

People love for Peter Kay utterly inexplicable.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:53
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Some more Empire info here:

"Empire launched with 552K on E4 last night - behind Stacey Dooley's BBC3 doc on 596K"
Excluding the +1 channels, Empire also had less viewers than last night's episode of The Flash on Sky 1 (0.46m/2.3%). And that's on episode 19.

I think privately C4 will be really upset by these numbers.
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Old 29-04-2015, 09:58
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Excluding the +1 channels, Empire also had less viewers than last night's episode of The Flash on Sky 1 (0.46m/2.3%). And that's on episode 19.

I think privately C4 will be really upset with these numbers.
Thought it would be a bit higher than that. I'm sure some other recent Channel 4 drama imports launched closer to 700k.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:01
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Wouldn't be suprised if it doesn't beat George Gently and Corrie

People love for Peter Kay utterly inexplicable.
Let's not get carried away here! Mind you stranger things have happened.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:02
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Thought it would be a bit higher than that. I'm sure some other recent Channel 4 drama imports launched closer to 700k.
I bet the C4 Press account was poised to tweet, expecting a headline grabbing number, then thought better of it.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:09
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I bet the C4 Press account was poised to tweet, expecting a headline grabbing number, then thought better of it.
Yes when I didn't see anything from them at 9.45am I suspected the Empire rating wasn't a blockbuster one. Do you know how 24 Hours In The Past did on BBC1 Dancc?
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:12
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Tuesday Overnights
BBC One
19:30 EastEnders: 6.44m (34.0%)
20:00 Holby City: 4.38m (21.8%)
22:00 BBC News at Ten: 4.20m (24.9%)

BBC Two
20:00 Alex Polizzi: Chefs on Trial: 1.34m (6.7%)
21:00 Wastemen: 1.51m (7.4%)
22:00 Later Live... with Jools Holland: 0.75m (4.4%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
20:00 Kirstie and Phil's Love it or List it: 1.89m (9.4%)
21:00 The Queen's Big Night Out: 1.67m (8.2%)
22:00 Ballot Monkeys: 0.93m (5.5%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
20:00 Britain's Horror Homes: 1.01m (5.0%)
21:00 Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away!: 0.89m (4.4%)
22:00 Killer Psychopaths: 0.54m (3.4%)

BBC Three
21:00 Girls Behind Bars: Stacey Dooley in the USA: 0.60m (2.9%)
22:30 EastEnders: 0.33m (2.5%)
23:00 Family Guy: 0.42m (4.6%)

BBC Four
19:30 The Flying Archaeologist: 0.28m (1.5%)
20:00 The Secret History of Our Streets: 0.33m (1.7%)
21:00 Storyville: 0.33m (1.7%)

ITV2 (exc. +1)
19:30 You've Been Framed!: .0.21m (1.1%)
21:00 Hell's Kitchen: 0.28m (1.4%)
22:00 Knocked Up: 0.19m (2.0%)

E4 (exc. +1)
19:00 Hollyoaks: 0.56m (3.2%)
21:00 Empire: 0.44m (2.2%)
22:00 Supernatural: 0.28m (1.9%)

Sky 1 (exc. +1)
19:00 The Simpsons: 0.31m (1.8%)
19:30 The Simpsons: 0.35m (1.9%)
20:00 The Flash: 0.46m (2.3%)
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:12
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Yes when I didn't see anything from them at 9.45am I suspected the Empire rating wasn't a blockbuster one. Do you know how 24 Hours In The Past did on BBC1 Dancc?
No more than 4.2m, as above.

Very good night for Channel 4.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:21
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Just a note on C5's ratings in case anyone is wondering why Can't Pay? is so low: that was in fact a repeat.

The planned programme Sick Note Skivers Exposed was replaced relatively last minute.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:31
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Monday Overnights
BBC One
19:30 EastEnders: 6.44m (34.0%)
20:00 Holby City: 4.38m (21.8%)
22:00 BBC News at Ten: 4.20m (24.9%)

BBC Two
20:00 Alex Polizzi: Chefs on Trial: 1.34m (6.7%)
21:00 Wastemen: 1.51m (7.4%)
22:00 Later Live... with Jools Holland: 0.75m (4.4%)

Channel 4 (exc. +1)
20:00 Kirstie and Phil's Love it or List it: 1.89m (9.4%)
21:00 The Queen's Big Night Out: 1.67m (8.2%)
22:00 Ballot Monkeys: 0.93m (5.5%)

Channel 5 (exc. +1)
20:00 Britain's Horror Homes: 1.01m (5.0%)
21:00 Can't Pay? We'll Take it Away!: 0.89m (4.4%)
22:00 Killer Psychopaths: 0.54m (3.4%)

BBC Three
21:00 Girls Behind Bars: Stacey Dooley in the USA: 0.60m (2.9%)
22:30 EastEnders: 0.33m (2.5%)
23:00 Family Guy: 0.42m (4.6%)

BBC Four
19:30 The Flying Archaeologist: 0.28m (1.5%)
20:00 The Secret History of Our Streets: 0.33m (1.7%)
21:00 Storyville: 0.33m (1.7%)

ITV2 (exc. +1)
19:30 You've Been Framed!: .0.21m (1.1%)
21:00 Hell's Kitchen: 0.28m (1.4%)
22:00 Knocked Up: 0.19m (2.0%)

E4 (exc. +1)
19:00 Hollyoaks: 0.56m (3.2%)
21:00 Empire: 0.44m (2.2%)
22:00 Supernatural: 0.28m (1.9%)

Sky 1 (exc. +1)
19:00 The Simpsons: 0.31m (1.8%)
19:30 The Simpsons: 0.35m (1.9%)
20:00 The Flash: 0.46m (2.3%)
Do you mean Tuesday overnights? Nothing for ITV?
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:32
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No more than 4.2m, as above.

Very good night for Channel 4.
Chefs On Trial is not a good performer for BBC2. It's a gift to other channels. Why did they make so many?

Good to see EastEnders up on Monday.
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Old 29-04-2015, 10:47
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Car Share did well on iPlayer. What will it mean for the BBC1 ratings?

http://www.bbc.co.uk/mediacentre/lat...name=corporate
Does that include the 7m+ connected Sky households who are never counted in the iPlayer ratings updates?

Watched all six, loved it.
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