Originally Posted by Score:
“Also, ITV are launching comedies Newzoids (9pm) and The Delivery Man (9.30pm) on Wednesday 15th April. Seems a strange night for them, the lead-in isn't exactly compatible (the launch of Give a Pet a Home). Also I would have thought they'd be the other way around.”
When would a lead-in be compatible, though? They were always going to go in the 9pm slot as ITV don't put new programmes on any later, so what other options would there have been in terms of a lead-in? Corrie or some factual. At least Give A Pet A Home looks like it might be quite light-hearted. The bigger issue is probably launching them at the same time, which never works for comedy shows on either BBC1 or ITV, because it one flops it colours the opinion of the others.
Can't imagine Newzoids doing anything. The appeal of Spitting Image was never the puppets, it was the scripts and the atmosphere, it clearly had opinions about the news and could get properly angry, and was massively disrepectful about everything. The puppets were just a vehicle for the satire as the best way to send up real people. This has clearly been puppets first, script and attitude a poor second. The novelty will wear off after five minutes.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“That's a very valid point. Steve Williams' comedy chart a few weeks ago made grim reading, but it told a story or two about the state of the genre generally across the channels.”
As you may have seen on Twitter the other day, the latest chart was slightly less grim in that there was a new programme on the terrestrial channels in the shape of Raised By Wolves, but the rest was the same with Off Their Rockers, Dad's Army, The Big Bang Theory and umpteen episodes of The Simpsons. There are some mitigating circumstances in that panel shows count as entertainment and don't get it so you don't get shows like Room 101 and WILTY which are clearly comedy shows.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“Filling the Graham Norton slot with a Would I Lie to You repeat on Good Friday isn't great either.”
It's not the Graham Norton slot, though, is it, it's at 11pm where I don't think many people expect to see new programmes, Good Friday or no. You've got the Eurovision special putting the news late and then they want to get The Football League Show on at a decent hour as well. No other channel is new at that time.
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“I wonder now Miranda (the other comedy repeat stalwart) has finished and had its very public finale, is this now done with no more repeats on BBC1?”
Ha ha. Have you heard of a programme called Only Fools and Horses?
Originally Posted by H of De Vil:
“Saturday multichannel
ITV3 - 08:00 PM Foyle's War 858 4.2% 2
BBC News - 08:00 AM Breakfast 691 10.5% 3
ITV3 - 07:00 PM Doc Martin 629 3.0% 4
BBC News - 09:00 AM BBC News 628 8.0% 5”
Note there the extremely high ratings for Breakfast on Saturday morning when it wasn't on BBC1 (the 9am hour was billed as BBC News on the EPG but it was the fourth hour of Breakfast as it usually is on BBC1). As we know the 8am hour on Sunday is always BBC News' highest rating of the week.
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“That's wonderfully rubbish. Doing worse than Loose Women. ITV are trying to do something a bit different in daytime but it needs to connect with the audience. Watched a bit yesterday evening. It's the updated Kilroy/The Time The Place debating programme.”
I thought it seemed a bit awkward in place of Loose Women, I can't imagine many regular Loose Women viewers are interested, however much they pretend Loose Women is about the news most people probably watch it for the celebrities and the aimless chit-chat. It would have surely made more sense in one of the ever-changing afternoon slots.
The reason they're doing it now of course is because of the election though you'd assume, if they were only doing it for two weeks, they'd be doing it for the last two weeks of the campaign, not the first two, where as you say it not only has to cope with the school holidays but also Good Friday and Easter Monday which seems pretty thankless slots for it. Unless they're showing it now because they're a bit unsure about it so want it in the school holidays when there are fewer viewers about.
Of course, were this the eighties and nineties, we'd have had masses more election coverage by now, including hour-long news bulletins...
http://genome.ch.bbc.co.uk/schedules...don/1997-04-07
Those hour long Nine O'Clock Newses during the election campaign used to be bloody awful, everyone hated them, and of course in 1997 they carried on for weeks and weeks and weeks. Might have been alright at ten o'clock, but not nine o'clock. I remember Private Eye saying The Grand, the RTD-penned period drama, got a second series because it did so well for the first series, ITV failing to realise it was because its opposition was an hour long news bulletin, and on a Friday night to boot.
There are far fewer PPBs this time round as well, as the excellent ukgeneralelection.com points out -
http://ukgeneralelection.com/2015/03...-many-parties/ - it looks like only five parties will get PPBs in England and Wales, with the Greens only getting one. I think that's the smallest number of parties getting them in an election for years, back in 1997 you regularly got two a night, with parties like the Natural Law Party, BNP and Socialist Labour always getting one, and one or two other parties as well.
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Is O'Brien even that well known outside of his radio show - which is on LBC that not everyone gets or would choose to seek out - and doing the odd newspaper review on Sky?
I know he's made the headlines a few times, but I'm not convinced that many people would even have known what he looks like, so a bit of a random signing from ITV's point-of-view.”
Well, maybe, but who the hell was Jeremy Kyle when he got given The Jeremy Kyle Show? I only knew him because I had the misfortune to hear "Jezza", as he was known, a couple of times on BRMB when I was a student. Obviously it was the show that was the star, not the man himself, and presumably the idea is it's the same here.