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The Ratings Thread (Part 64)
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dave01
01-04-2015
The Iplayer pack for February is out, so an update for Eastenders Iplayer monthly average ratings, based on the entries that appear in the Iplayer top 20 each month.

2015
Jan - 1.35m
Feb - 1.50m

2014
Jan - 1.19m
Feb - 1.32m
Mar - 1.04m
Apr - 1.12m
May - 1.08m
Jun - 1.04m
Jul - 946k
Aug - 915k (minor data issues, some views not caputured)
Sep - 885k (minor date issues, some views not captured)
Oct - 1.15m (30 day catch-up window introduced 4th Oct)
Nov - 1.06m
Dec - 1.31m

Previous February Iplayer ratings
2015 - 1.50m
2014 - 1.32m
2013 - 837k
2012 - 662k
2011 - 491k
2010 - 524k


Last EE Iplayer update
Dancc
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Thunderbirds Are Go must be on at 5pm on April 11th. Has anybody checked that?”

Nope, even in the final schedules there is no Saturday teatime screening on either ITV or CITV. Just the 8am showing.

The repeat slots on CITV are Sundays at 3pm and Wednesdays at 5pm.
D.M.N.
01-04-2015
The description for Saturday's episode has been updated:

Quote:
“Ring of Fire
The Tracy brothers and their friends at International Rescue set out to foil the nefarious plots of the evil Hood. An updated remake of the classic 1960s marionette series, this time featuring computer-animated characters on live-action modelled sets. The adventures get under way as a powerful artificial seaquake strands a research team in an undersea lab, and the crew of the Thunderbirds must determine who caused it. With the voices of Rosamund Pike, Kayvan Novak and Thomas Brodie-Sangster, with the original Parker - David Graham - returning to voice Lady Penelope's long-serving chauffeur”

Dancc
01-04-2015
A rare entry in the multichannel top 10 for GOLD yesterday at #8 with a rerun of the very first episode of ratings smash Mrs. Brown's Boys pulling in a hefty pay TV audience of 463k (2.8%). It was 2nd in its slot excluding the big five, beaten only by ITV3's Law & Order: UK repeat (538k/3.5%).

Full top 10's for the last 7 days: http://www.itvmedia.co.uk/
Dancc
01-04-2015
Sky Living's new 6 part documentary series Who'd be a Billionaire? made a low key debut last night, mustering 0.11m (0.5%) at 8pm. [excluding +1]

Things picked up for the channel at 9pm with US drama Elementary securing 0.24m (1.1%).
cylon6
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Nope, even in the final schedules there is no Saturday teatime screening on either ITV or CITV. Just the 8am showing.

The repeat slots on CITV are Sundays at 3pm and Wednesdays at 5pm.”

No ITV repeat at all? That's crazy.
centauri72
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“No ITV repeat at all? That's crazy.”

Utterly insane. Sadly all too reminiscent of how, almost exactly a decade ago, they mistreated the last Gerry Anderson CGI remake, New Captain Scarlet, which was chopped into bits and dropped in segments into a Saturday morning anarchic children's show.

It's not that ITV cannot commission programmes of interest to people who don't like soaps. It's just that they have no idea whatsoever of what to do with them when they do, and then - having scheduled them appallingly - cite their inevitable ratings failure as a reason to stick to soap and crime as their only drama offerings.

On this basis, presumably Beowulf will be given a 2am slot on ITVBe...
hyperstarsponge
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I suspect England ''friendlies'' do not attract big audiences in Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland (and of course Scotland opt out of Holby in any case).”

Most of England don't want to watch it either.
JordyD
01-04-2015
Considering no ones seen the New Thunderbirds, there's a rather lot of people in defence of it not being shown at a more convient time on ITV.
cylon6
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by centauri72:
“Utterly insane. Sadly all too reminiscent of how, almost exactly a decade ago, they mistreated the last Gerry Anderson CGI remake, New Captain Scarlet, which was chopped into bits and dropped in segments into a Saturday morning anarchic children's show.

It's not that ITV cannot commission programmes of interest to people who don't like soaps. It's just that they have no idea whatsoever of what to do with them when they do, and then - having scheduled them appallingly - cite their inevitable ratings failure as a reason to stick to soap and crime as their only drama offerings.

On this basis, presumably Beowulf will be given a 2am slot on ITVBe...”

Seems crazy especially if it rates well.
Originally Posted by JordyD:
“Considering no ones seen the New Thunderbirds, there's a rather lot of people in defence of it not being shown at a more convient time on ITV.”

Spoke to some people that went to the Thunderbirds screening. They said it's very good.
Jaycee Dove
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Nope, even in the final schedules there is no Saturday teatime screening on either ITV or CITV. Just the 8am showing.

The repeat slots on CITV are Sundays at 3pm and Wednesdays at 5pm.”

Digiguide has even now removed the 8 am Saturday screening of the 1966 Thunderbirds are Go two hour movie (Tardis style - ie in a 30 minute slot) - which in reality was obviously ep 2 of Thunderbirds are Go the new series - showing instead something called Scrambled now in that 8 am slot on 11 April.

Virgin Tivo is still showing all ITV programmes after 6 am that day as 'To be Announced'.

ITV must not be expecting it to get enough viewers for a regular tea time ITV slot but not at all sure why they did not at least schedule the first two weeks that way in case it was a surprise hit. As it will be much easier to remove that quietly and replace a 30 minute filler than to add an episode after everyone's TV listings now show there is not one.

A case of - if it flops only a few people will care if it does not appear in the Saturday tea time slot shown on 11 April and the 99th repeat of You've Been Framed does. But if 5 million watch and it is not anywhere remotely watchable the next week ITV have needlessly lost viewers who will have to be told their schedules are wrong if they want to add it.
hyperstarsponge
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by JordyD:
“Considering no ones seen the New Thunderbirds, there's a rather lot of people in defence of it not being shown at a more convient time on ITV.”

The papers will be all over them if they dumped it at 8am after if it got high ratings.
JCR
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“Seems crazy especially if it rates well.

Spoke to some people that went to the Thunderbirds screening. They said it's very good.”

Doesn't mean much, first screenings of cult type material always get an overly positive response. People were convinced Dark Knight Rises was going to win the best picture Oscar based on early screening word.

Doctor Who reviews from screenings are also always very positive, even for episodes that then get 3 out of 5 type reviews from everyone when they air on tv.
Jaycee Dove
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“The papers will be all over them if they dumped it at 8am after if it got high ratings.”

More importantly they will lose viewers IF it is a hit as I note above. Viewers they would have kept with a bit more thought over these schedules.

I get ITV obviously think this is a kids show so no place on regular ITV Saturday. They might be right and I doubt it will rip up trees either. But they should have hedged their bets over the second week as I pointed out just in case it defies their viewing figure expectations after their PR blitz.

It is not like they are going to get 10 times as many viewers with another repeat of some filler show in that slot.

Plus ITV have regarded some poor fare as being evening weekend scheduling lately. If that Harry Hill drivel counts in their eyes. Especially as they have been promoting the return on ITV 1 in prime time during countless ad break since even before Christmas. Who signed off on this campaign for a show they clearly do not see as worth screening to the people they aimed their ads toward?
JordyD
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“The papers will be all over them if they dumped it at 8am after if it got high ratings.”

And they will be even more all over them if it flopped in a higher profile slot.
Jaycee Dove
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by JordyD:
“And they will be even more all over them if it flopped in a higher profile slot.”

Not for just two weeks. Like I keep saying it is much easier to remove a flop to a lesser spot for week two than suddenly air a hit in a better slot after schedules tell all of its viewers wanting to watch that it isn't there.

Nobody would criticise ITV for giving it two shots. 26 in that slot is another matter.

And as I type that ITV screen the nth advert for the show on screen just today!
JCR
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Not for just two weeks. Like I keep saying it is much easier to remove a flop to a lesser spot for week two than suddenly air a hit in a better slot after schedules tell all of its viewers wanting to watch that it isn't there.

Nobody would criticise ITV for giving it two shots. 26 in that slot is another matter.

And as I type that ITV screen the nth advert for the show on screen just today!”

Presumably ITV decided it's less risky to air it on CITV then risk a ratings collapse over a few episodes at teatime and then being stuck with 52 episodes of a perceived flop.
hyperstarsponge
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by JCR:
“Presumably ITV decided it's less risky to air it on CITV then risk a ratings collapse over a few episodes at teatime and then being stuck with 52 episodes of a perceived flop.”

What if it rated very well?
JCR
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“What if it rated very well?”

Presumably they have decided that it won't, over several weeks.
JCR
01-04-2015
This may be blasphemy on this thread.... but I'm not sure a show like Thunderbirds rating on ITV matters that much to it in 2015. If it's a hit on streaming it'll go on for years. We'd have H2O Just Add Water / Mako Mermaids numbers of episodes of Thunderbirds are Go! (Netflix have just renewed the latter for another 26 episodes)
Jonwo
01-04-2015
It was commissioned by CITV and it's meant to be aimed at kids. The fact it has two repeat slots on CITV means there are plenty of chances to catch it. Another thing is that it's likely to sell lots of toys which is more profitable than ratings

It has 52 episodes which means ITV will profit it from it from international sales and they'll make even more if they order a third series
JCR
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“It was commissioned by CITV and it's meant to be aimed at kids. The fact it has two repeat slots on CITV means there are plenty of chances to catch it. Another thing is that it's likely to sell lots of toys which is more profitable than ratings

It has 52 episodes which means ITV will profit it from it from international sales and they'll make even more if they order a third series”

Heh. I remember years ago I was at a Darren Aronofsky Q&A session at the Edinburgh festival and he said that he once agreed to write a Batman script for Warner Bros in an attempt to also get them interested in films he was wanting to do. He said "We have to make toys of this" was the advice WB gave him over the script.
Steve Williams
01-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jonwo:
“It was commissioned by CITV and it's meant to be aimed at kids. The fact it has two repeat slots on CITV means there are plenty of chances to catch it. Another thing is that it's likely to sell lots of toys which is more profitable than ratings”

Well, yes, Thunderbirds is a kids show, I don't think there's any way they could have rebooted it to make it a successful series among a wider audience than the nostalgic. It's a kids show and it's in a kids slot. If ITV then want to promote it extensively in primetime and show the first episode but no others in an adult slot, that is their own fault. To my mind, this isn't an adult or family show getting inexplicably put in a kids slot but a kids show inexplicably getting extensive promotion in adult slots.

Yeah, it's an expensive commission and has some resonance among adults, but so did The Furchester Hotel and the Beeb haven't shown that on BBC1, have they?

Originally Posted by Jaycee Dove:
“Digiguide has even now removed the 8 am Saturday screening of the 1966 Thunderbirds are Go two hour movie (Tardis style - ie in a 30 minute slot) - which in reality was obviously ep 2 of Thunderbirds are Go the new series - showing instead something called Scrambled now in that 8 am slot on 11 April.”

Scrambled is the irritating Saturday morning strand on ITV and CITV, in which Thunderbirds will be shown.
Jaycee Dove
01-04-2015
They have just shown the full trailer for Thunderbirds inbetween Corrie and Big Star, Little Star. I notice it says presented by CiTV. Which pretty much says this is not an ITV show.

Still seems an awful lot of budget on ITV publicity hype for a show they expect people to watch on another channel.

Perhaps ITV are just treating their channels more as a family to get promotion on ITV itself when they think they can grab some cross channel audience.

This week they have been plugging quite extensively on the main channel the start of Gracepoint tonight - although that is both an already axed flop that will not get a resolution and is on ITV Encore only afaik.

The shout line New Town, New Ending is quite cleverly aimed at ITV viewers of Broadchurch.

Anyhow I still doubt Thunderbirds will get more than 3 million and so probably will not worry ITV schedulers.

Lets hope they find the money to promote something they ARE showing on ITV with the 4 month long 7 day a week hype that Thunderbirds has got for what in effect amounts to a single Easter film up against a big Easter film on BBC 1 aimed at a similar audience.

Might be a problem for them only if the kids watch the more modern BBC 1 film they will know and the parents Thunderbirds on ITV!

Could happen!
H of De Vil
01-04-2015
The Paul O' Grady Show returns soon. Recording starts on the 22nd April.
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