Surely that figure for EE can't be correct ?
The Ratings Thread (Part 64)
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Originally Posted by ftv:
“Surely that figure for EE can't be correct ?”
“Surely that figure for EE can't be correct ?”
That's what you get when itv don't play fair.
Originally Posted by Philip Wilson:
“No chance, still tops a million easily when consolidated, ITVBe's highest show and cheap as chips. Going nowhere anytime soon. The whole idea of moving TOWIE was to launch their new channel and so far that seems to have gone well.”
“No chance, still tops a million easily when consolidated, ITVBe's highest show and cheap as chips. Going nowhere anytime soon. The whole idea of moving TOWIE was to launch their new channel and so far that seems to have gone well.”
Do you have a link please for the million or there about when consolidated? Or is it just a guess? Not criticising just trying to understand what your basing it on and how robust it is?
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“That's what you get when itv don't play fair.”
“That's what you get when itv don't play fair.”
Ah so that partially explains why The X Factor is dented every autumn when Strictly starts... because the BBC don't play fair...
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Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“That's what you get when itv don't play fair.”
“That's what you get when itv don't play fair.”
Not this again. Where were ITV supposed to put the second ED?
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Not this again. Where were ITV supposed to put the second ED?”
“Not this again. Where were ITV supposed to put the second ED?”
The better question is why have a second episode of it at all? Over bloated soap.
As for "Not this again": exactly my thoughts whenever there are usual "EastEnders in crisis / is rubbish" posts taking things out of context and ignorIng Emmerdale clashes when of course EastEnders will be hit.
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“The better question is why have a second episode of it at all? Over bloated soap.”
“The better question is why have a second episode of it at all? Over bloated soap.”
I've said in the past that ED should cut one episode a week but that's irrelevant to the point. It shouldn't drop an episode just for EE's benefit.
I haven't even mentioned EE's rating and don't think it's surprising or particularly poor given the circumstances. Of course the BBC were well aware of this debate and the ED clash weeks ago so could've made an attempt to protect EE. And to those who say "why should EE be forced out of its original slot?"; I say because the BBC should be protecting its biggest shows. I'm unsure whether it would've rated better at 8pm or not but I'd have thought so.
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“I've said in the past that ED should cut one episode a week but that's irrelevant to the point. It shouldn't drop an episode just for EE's benefit.
I haven't even mentioned EE's rating and don't think it's surprising or particularly poor given the circumstances. Of course the BBC were well aware of this debate and the ED clash weeks ago so could've made an attempt to protect EE. And to those who say "why should EE be forced out of its original slot?"; I say because the BBC should be protecting its biggest shows. I'm unsure whether it would've rated better at 8pm or not but I'd have thought so.”
“I've said in the past that ED should cut one episode a week but that's irrelevant to the point. It shouldn't drop an episode just for EE's benefit.
I haven't even mentioned EE's rating and don't think it's surprising or particularly poor given the circumstances. Of course the BBC were well aware of this debate and the ED clash weeks ago so could've made an attempt to protect EE. And to those who say "why should EE be forced out of its original slot?"; I say because the BBC should be protecting its biggest shows. I'm unsure whether it would've rated better at 8pm or not but I'd have thought so.”
EE was in its ''usual'' slot for a Thursday. At 8 pm it would have been up against the debate.
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“BBC News says a 7.7m average audience for the debate on ITV, BBC News and Sky.”
“BBC News says a 7.7m average audience for the debate on ITV, BBC News and Sky.”
Including ITV+1? I presume so, over 1m between Sky and BBC News 24 would be very impressive.
Originally Posted by ftv:
“EE was in its ''usual'' slot for a Thursday. At 8 pm it would have been up against the debate.”
“EE was in its ''usual'' slot for a Thursday. At 8 pm it would have been up against the debate.”
So you've given the predicted response which I responded to in my post. See "To those who say "Why should EE be moved out of it's original slot?"" ... in my previous post.
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Including ITV+1? I presume so, over 1m between Sky and BBC News 24 would be very impressive.”
“Including ITV+1? I presume so, over 1m between Sky and BBC News 24 would be very impressive.”
Not specified but I'd guess so.
Originally Posted by Zac Quinn:
“Including ITV+1? I presume so, over 1m between Sky and BBC News 24 would be very impressive.”
“Including ITV+1? I presume so, over 1m between Sky and BBC News 24 would be very impressive.”
Yeah I guess so, so 700k across Sky/BBC.
Originally Posted by Fudd:
“Ah so that partially explains why The X Factor is dented every autumn when Strictly starts... because the BBC don't play fair...
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“Ah so that partially explains why The X Factor is dented every autumn when Strictly starts... because the BBC don't play fair...
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When it suits eh!
The ITV Leaders' Debate did well - but I honestly thought it might have done a bit better especially considering how it performed several years ago (something like 9.4m IIRC). Emmerdale was barely hurt by the clash but sent EE to it's worst rating of 2015 so far. Think they'll all be low tonight.
Interesting article about Corrie today on DS about the return of Sarah and Bethany and if they can save Corrie. Completely agree with the article actually.
In other news, Sky Atlantic's Fortitude has an official series average of 1.17m (inc +1: 1.32m). That excludes episode 6's rating as currently unavailable on BARB. I'm surprised its held up as well as it has done. It's often a difficult watch and can be quite boring at times - although things certainly picked up last night ahead of next week's series finale. The 28-day data currently stands at: 1.48m (inc +1: 1.66m) - up to episode 5, which is actually putting it around Game of Thrones' series average (for it's 4th season shown last year). Pretty impressive stuff!
Interesting article about Corrie today on DS about the return of Sarah and Bethany and if they can save Corrie. Completely agree with the article actually.
In other news, Sky Atlantic's Fortitude has an official series average of 1.17m (inc +1: 1.32m). That excludes episode 6's rating as currently unavailable on BARB. I'm surprised its held up as well as it has done. It's often a difficult watch and can be quite boring at times - although things certainly picked up last night ahead of next week's series finale. The 28-day data currently stands at: 1.48m (inc +1: 1.66m) - up to episode 5, which is actually putting it around Game of Thrones' series average (for it's 4th season shown last year). Pretty impressive stuff!
Good for the debate. Interesting that politics is now a bigger draw than either of Thursdays soaps - although East Enders will likely have a good catch up as most who watch both soaps will have recorded this rather than the second half of a one hour Emmerdale - just as we did.
Interesting also that Corrie is turning to Les Dennis to try to keep it ahead by giving him what he calls his dream of a long term contract and meaty storylines to stay. He has fitted into the show very well, though with Gail's track record for husband's I would not be banking on that long term contract being too long.
Digiguide updated to show ITV screening Thunderbirds at 8 am on both the 11th and 18th April in half hour slots. So looks like that is how it will stay.
Just been to my brothers (he is 61) and was interrupted by his phone ringing with the Thunderbird theme tune. So he is already hooked, but was annoyed when I told him its tea time slot on ITV was a one off. Idiots, was about the most repeatable thing he called ITV.
Interesting also that Corrie is turning to Les Dennis to try to keep it ahead by giving him what he calls his dream of a long term contract and meaty storylines to stay. He has fitted into the show very well, though with Gail's track record for husband's I would not be banking on that long term contract being too long.
Digiguide updated to show ITV screening Thunderbirds at 8 am on both the 11th and 18th April in half hour slots. So looks like that is how it will stay.
Just been to my brothers (he is 61) and was interrupted by his phone ringing with the Thunderbird theme tune. So he is already hooked, but was annoyed when I told him its tea time slot on ITV was a one off. Idiots, was about the most repeatable thing he called ITV.
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“That's what you get when itv don't play fair.”
“That's what you get when itv don't play fair.”
ITV don't have to play fair, neither does the BBC or any other broadcaster, ITV relies on advertising to survive so if they feel running hour lengths of Emmerdale will bring in much needed revenue then so be it. It hurt EastEnders but what's more telling about EE is seeing its ratings decimated by another soap . That alone says more about how fickle the audience for EE really is.
I support the right of any broadcaster to schedule as they see fit and if ITV want to run Emmerdale against EE then that's their prerogative just as the BBC could run EE against Corrie so to speak.
From what I heard the BBC may give the impression of supporting EE but there are some in management who would be happy to see its demise.
Originally Posted by jlp95bwfc:
“Not this again. Where were ITV supposed to put the second ED?”
“Not this again. Where were ITV supposed to put the second ED?”
Answers on a postcard to ..... Peter Fincham and don't be rude!
For once it was not dirty tricks by itv, with the deabte at 8pm they had limited options.
I suppose the sensible thing would have been to cut down the episodes for that week to 5, rather than 6, but that is not itv's style. If anything they will increase the soaps output in the future especially as they have lost European football. I can see Corrie going to 6 episodes on occasions and Emmerdale on 7.
The debate did well although I did think a million or so more was achievable. Personally I think a 3 way debate as per last year would have done better.
Rating of the day was probably Question Time at 2.7m/23%- you could have forgiven the TV audience for having had enough of politics for the night after a two hour debate and then the 10pm news bulletins which were mostly consumed with post show analysis and reaction.
Rating of the day was probably Question Time at 2.7m/23%- you could have forgiven the TV audience for having had enough of politics for the night after a two hour debate and then the 10pm news bulletins which were mostly consumed with post show analysis and reaction.
Originally Posted by Sweaty Job Rot:
“ITV don't have to play fair, neither does the BBC or any other broadcaster, ITV relies on advertising to survive so if they feel running hour lengths of Emmerdale will bring in much needed revenue then so be it. It hurt EastEnders but what's more telling about EE is seeing its ratings decimated by another soap . That alone says more about how fickle the audience for EE really is.
I support the right of any broadcaster to schedule as they see fit and if ITV want to run Emmerdale against EE then that's their prerogative just as the BBC could run EE against Corrie so to speak.
From what I heard the BBC may give the impression of supporting EE but there are some in management who would be happy to see its demise.”
“ITV don't have to play fair, neither does the BBC or any other broadcaster, ITV relies on advertising to survive so if they feel running hour lengths of Emmerdale will bring in much needed revenue then so be it. It hurt EastEnders but what's more telling about EE is seeing its ratings decimated by another soap . That alone says more about how fickle the audience for EE really is.
I support the right of any broadcaster to schedule as they see fit and if ITV want to run Emmerdale against EE then that's their prerogative just as the BBC could run EE against Corrie so to speak.
From what I heard the BBC may give the impression of supporting EE but there are some in management who would be happy to see its demise.”
You will find a large proportion of the soap audience watch the big 3 CS, ED and EE. If you are watching Emmerdale why would you stop watching half way through and change channels and watch EastEnders. The sensible thing to do is tape (sky+) EastEnders and watch it later, which is what I did. You can also catch it on iplayer or the omnibus or BBC3 repeat.
With reference to BBC managememnt and EastEnders, that certainly used to be the case, but many of these old fossils have retired from the corporation and this is not the case now! EastEnders is a vital part of the schedule for BBC One. I can see many on here cringing with despair.
Originally Posted by Chris1964:
“Yes you cant argue with that kind of figure over two hours these days, ITV bagged the real event moment tv wise and its paid off.”
“Yes you cant argue with that kind of figure over two hours these days, ITV bagged the real event moment tv wise and its paid off.”
Ratings wise perhaps, but viewing wise the Paxo grilling on C4/Sky was so more wathcable! I do miss this man.
Originally Posted by northlad:
“4.8 for Eastenders is appalling,would not have thought many of its audience interested in politics.”
“4.8 for Eastenders is appalling,would not have thought many of its audience interested in politics.”
I am sure there not, just Like 99.9 % of the population, can't wait until May 8th.
Originally Posted by Servalan:
“Moffat can spin all he likes about how much he likes two-parters - the main drive for this will be money. A two-part story that can use the same sets/locations will be cheaper.
The challenge, of course, lies in ensuring that there's enough narrative in the premise to generate two 45 minute episodes.”
“Moffat can spin all he likes about how much he likes two-parters - the main drive for this will be money. A two-part story that can use the same sets/locations will be cheaper.
The challenge, of course, lies in ensuring that there's enough narrative in the premise to generate two 45 minute episodes.”
I don't think it's a bad idea. It's easier to come up with three good stories than six. Less effort for the casual viewers, too. I think some get put off by having to invest in a new story every week.
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