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The Ratings Thread (Part 64)
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hyperstarsponge
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“Fair enough but the original point you made was that you thought later slots on the BBC News Channel on Sunday mornings after Breakfast get "better ratings". Judging by the BARB figures I cited (which are pretty typical for the News Channel), they don't.”

Probably still better then what Victoria Derbyshire gets on a weekday, It hasn't seem to have worked so far even through the BBC has tried to boost its ratings.
ftv
14-04-2015
Do you have any comparable figures for Sky News on Sunday mornings ?
Jay Lee
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Probably still better then what Victoria Derbyshire gets on a weekday, It hasn't seem to have worked so far even through the BBC has tried to boost its ratings.”

I'm not disagreeing with you there, but that's a separate discussion!
Dancc
14-04-2015
Weekdays at 11:10am for C5's new daytime series Cowboy Builders and Bodge Jobs.

Presented by the likes of Laura Hamilton (A Place in the Sun) and Dan Lobb (Daybreak), as well as one of Cowboy Builders' original presenters Melinda Messenger, it will partly clash with similar sounding BBC One programme Cowboys and Angels.

Quote:
“ENTERTAINMENT: Cowboy Builders and Bodge Jobs
On: Channel 5 (5)
Date: Monday 27th April 2015 (starting in 12 days)
Time: 11:10 to 12:10 (1 hour long)

Sorry no additional information is currently available
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=87587

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.”

Quote:
“DOCUMENTARY: Cowboys and Angels
On: BBC 1 East (1)
Date: Monday 27th April 2015 (starting in 12 days)
Time: 11:45 to 12:15 (30 minutes long)

Documentary following a range of tradesmen as they respond to calls from distressed homeowners.
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=87587

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.”

hyperstarsponge
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“Weekdays at 11:10am for C5's new daytime series Cowboy Builders and Bodge Jobs.

Presented by the likes of Laura Hamilton (A Place in the Sun) and Dan Lobb (Daybreak), as well as one of Cowboy Builders' original presenters Melinda Messenger, it will partly clash with similar sounding BBC One programme Cowboys and Angels.”

Gamble for Channel 5 this is, But they do these type of shows better then BBC One plus it has the benefit of starting first. Also there is other Viacom channels to promote it on.
Jay Lee
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by ftv:
“Do you have any comparable figures for Sky News on Sunday mornings ?”

For some reason, BARB don't have a top ten for Sky News for week ending 5th April. However, the overall viewing chart for that week suggests that Sky News has 0.80% of the viewing audience; BBC News has 1.09%.
Dancc
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by hyperstarsponge:
“Gamble for Channel 5 this is, But they do these type of shows better then BBC One plus it has the benefit of starting first. Also there is other Viacom channels to promote it on.”

The BBC One show could be much worse and still get five times as many viewers. That's ratings for you.

I can see why they are using the post Wright Stuff slot, especially with This Morning looking increasingly vulnerable as its quality continues to decline at a rate of knots, but they should have at least waited for the BBC One programme to finish its run.
ftv
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“I'm not disagreeing with you there, but that's a separate discussion!”

I wonder if she will even return to BBC2 after the snooker next week
Dancc
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I wonder if she will even return to BBC2 after the snooker next week”

I'm afraid so.

Quote:
“MAGAZINE PROGRAMME: Victoria Derbyshire
On: BBC 2 (2)
Date: Monday 27th April 2015 (starting in 12 days)
Time: 09:15 to 11:00 (1 hour and 45 minutes long)

Sorry no additional information is currently available
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Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=87587

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.”

ftv
14-04-2015
I suppose Two could have run her 0915-1000 next week before the snooker but they have replaced it with Talking Pictures.
Steve Williams
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Score:
“Peter Kay's Car Share has finally appeared in BBC1's schedules! Provisionally set to begin Wednesday 29th April at 9.30pm, continuing the next day at the same time.”

It's a miracle! We seem to have been talking about it on this thread since it began, but now we've had that and The Dark Knight, what's left on the shelves? Presumably the Wednesday slot will be the permanent one, given the following Thursday they'd have to show it earlier in an awkward slot so the election coverage can start at 9.55. It's a decent enough way to cope with the ninety minute George Gently too.

I don't doubt it'll be a hit, thrashing The Delivery Man. Peter Kay has phenomenal personal popularity and all those repeats of his live shows and the endless compilations get enormous ratings on C4. That's why I couldn't understand the suggestion BBC1 were burying it because it was crap, when you see the endless cash-ins and clip shows they whack out under his name. If Peter Kay can release a DVD that's a compilation of his previous two DVDs, and it sells well, it would have had to have been totally unbroadcastable to flop.

Peter Kay is a big, big star and if a repeat of a repeat of a clip show of a repeat can get three million plus on C4, a new Peter Kay programme is a guaranteed hit.

Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“Gently on at 8pm Wednesday does not sound like an ideal slot either.”

I think it is, a classic drama slot, albeit mostly on ITV. It's a familiar slot for things like Midsomer so viewers are used to watching that kind of thing there, and it's going up against fairly weak light factual and entertainment on ITV. I know it's not got much of a lead-in but it didn't matter when Bake Off was thrashing Celebrity Squares (I'm not saying it'll get Bake Off-esque ratings).

Originally Posted by Jay Lee:
“According to BARB, that 8am-9am Sunday slot for Breakfast (which is not simulcast on BBC One) is the highest rated slot of the week for the BBC News Channel, with 526,000, week ending 5th April. The audience for the News Channel on Sunday morning diminishes afterwards: 9-9:30am gets 501,000. 9:30-10am gets 393,000. 10-10:30am gets 265,000. No other Sunday slot on the News Channel features in its top ten.

I don't know what Andrew Marr and Sunday Politics gets at the same time on BBC One, but I'd imagine that Andrew Marr at least gets more than those figures; it is quite an agenda-setting programme, with high profile interviews, "boring" as it might seem.”

The last time Broadcast ran the current affairs chart, for the week ending 29th March, The Andrew Marr Show got 800,000 viewers, a 9.58% share. However, it wason BBC2 that week because of Formula One (and the clocks had gone forward). On Sunday 1st March, when it was on BBC1, it got 1.35 million viewers, a 19.77% share, which I think is rather good. Football Focus that weekend only got 1.30 million. Sunday Politics failed to chart on either occasion, but it's petty certain it would have beaten the BBC News channel.

The audience for rolling news on a Sunday morning is really low, nobody's looking for it at that point. Nothing happens on a Sunday morning, apart from politicians saying things on Andrew Marr. But people are used to watching Breakfast when they get up and that Sunday 8am hour is always BBC News' highest rated of the week, it's certainly the only one that regularly gets in the Broadcast multichannel chart (unless BBC1 aren't showing it on Saturday either).
JordyD
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by ftv:
“I suppose Two could have run her 0915-1000 next week before the snooker but they have replaced it with Talking Pictures.”

Ain't her show just talking pictures anyway?

The thing with Victoria Live is, is that just like Adam Boulton, instead of creating a strong one hour show, they dilute it two hours, and there's too much filler.

Sky News should have given Boulton a one hour prime time show on his own focusing on politics, but instead they turned it into a watered down two hour general news programme, that's neither here for there.

They should have given Victoria a one hour show at a different time of day, with an hour focused on one thing, with the option to opt out for Breaking News. Instead, they've gone for a too wide mix of content watered down to last nearly two hours.
yorkie100
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by cylon6:
“It's a good slot for a feature length drama. Gently was on Thursdays at 8.30pm and did well there. But we see drama struggle on Wednesday generally. Can it buck the trend?”

I thought Thursdays at 8:30pm was almost the perfect slot for it but they have changed it for what reason I dont know. Whats on Thursday that week I wonder?
Steve Williams
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by yorkie100:
“I thought Thursdays at 8:30pm was almost the perfect slot for it but they have changed it for what reason I dont know. Whats on Thursday that week I wonder?”

It's been mentioned - the election debate. And the week after it would have to be crammed in because of the election itself, the coverage of which begins at 9.55.
Jokanovic
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by AUNAC:
“Masterchef beats SNT?”

Not bad eh for what's basically a middle class reality TV show
ftv
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Dancc:
“I'm afraid so.”

Curiously she returns to BBC2 for one morning on Thursday April 23
yorkie100
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It's been mentioned - the election debate. And the week after it would have to be crammed in because of the election itself, the coverage of which begins at 9.55.”

Probably makes a bit more sense then to be on Wednesday - wonder if it will suffer a bit though.
Andy23
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Score:
“BREAKING NEWS

Peter Kay's Car Share has finally appeared in BBC1's schedules! Provisionally set to begin Wednesday 29th April at 9.30pm, continuing the next day at the same time.

The lead-in on Wednesday is the return of Inspector George Gently and on Thursday it is Question Time Election Leaders Special (both 8-9.30pm) so not exactly the most suitable lead-ins but oh well.

This means that it'll be up against ITV's new sitcom The Delivery Man. Oh dear...”

So many hit sitcoms on TV thesedays that they can barely squeeze them in, they've decided to run two opposite each other.

BBC1 ensuring that as they are so weak in comedy these days they better make sure ITV are as well and better make sure The Delivery Man has no chance of becoming a hit.

It's only the second prime time sitcom after Open All Hours so seems daft it's in that slot, what's airing on Friday at 9:30 after HIGNFY?
Andy23
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Steve Williams:
“It's been mentioned - the election debate. And the week after it would have to be crammed in because of the election itself, the coverage of which begins at 9.55.”

Well they will be running the whole schedule including all important EastEnders and whatever else is on, 5 mins early from 7:25 that evening, so I'm not sure that fact has a link to them putting IGG on a Wednesday not Thursday.
hyperstarsponge
14-04-2015
BBC News Channel should put a best of Derbyshire show on a weekend at 09:30, Then move her weekday show to 19:00 which is usually a quiet news time instead of the current busy news time.
stv viewer
14-04-2015
When does Car Share come on iplayer
A.D.P
14-04-2015
Pardon me?

Could someone point me to the ratings thread?

Seems MIA,

I seem to have stumbled on the ongoing anti Victoria Derbyshire thread?
yorkie100
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by A.D.P:
“Pardon me?

Could someone point me to the ratings thread?

Seems MIA,

I seem to have stumbled on the ongoing anti Victoria Derbyshire thread?”

Yes I have to say I find the whole thing a bit odd myself. What has Victoria done to deserve it? always seemed very capable whenever I saw/heard her.
yorkie100
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“So many hit sitcoms on TV thesedays that they can barely squeeze them in, they've decided to run two opposite each other.

BBC1 ensuring that as they are so weak in comedy these days they better make sure ITV are as well and better make sure The Delivery Man has no chance of becoming a hit.

It's only the second prime time sitcom after Open All Hours so seems daft it's in that slot, what's airing on Friday at 9:30 after HIGNFY?”

Although Friday 9:30pm has hardly been a major comedy slot in recent times either.
Also how do we know that Delivery Man is not better than Car Share - I mean you cant really have much confidence in either I know but just maybe?
Score
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Andy23:
“So many hit sitcoms on TV thesedays that they can barely squeeze them in, they've decided to run two opposite each other.

BBC1 ensuring that as they are so weak in comedy these days they better make sure ITV are as well and better make sure The Delivery Man has no chance of becoming a hit.

It's only the second prime time sitcom after Open All Hours so seems daft it's in that slot, what's airing on Friday at 9:30 after HIGNFY?”

Another Mrs Brown repeat goes on Friday at 9.30.
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