[Everything Goes]

Ed Miliband has ditched his iPhone for a BlackBerry because he was addicted to it. So he got a BlackBerry instead because "it's harder to do those things and so it's more limited functionality."

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Geoff Lloyd: "I think I read about you that you had to give up your iPhone because you were so obsessive about checking Twitter and political commentary."

Ed Miliband: "The good thing about a BlackBerry -- I'm going to insult the BlackBerry makers now -- is that it's harder to do those things and so it's more limited functionality."

Comments about BlackBerry are about the 2 min mark.


http://www.engadget.com/2015/04/02/e...nd-blackberry/

[Thine Wonk]

Doesn't surprise me, the man is a complete moron.

[d123]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Doesn't surprise me, the man is a complete moron.

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Ed Miliband: "The good thing about a BlackBerry -- I'm going to insult the BlackBerry makers now -- is that it's harder to do those things and so it's more limited functionality."

But in this case he does have a point.

[moox]

BB10 is an improvement but it's fair to say that it still isn't iPhone-like in terms of ease of use, what types of applications are available etc.

I can see his point (and I too dislike him and his party). It's interesting as during BB's dominance in corporate email people would often get hooked to their BB phones and it's only in recent years that people have seen the light and gone the other way (with IT admins breathing a sigh of relief as they do not need to maintain special BB infrastructure or paying extra for BIS)

[enapace]

Honestly I couldn't care what this guy does or says. The Jeremy Paxton interview showed that he couldn't even answer a simple question.

[mogzyboy]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Doesn't surprise me, the man is a complete moron.

Couldn't have put that any better myself.

[d'@ve]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Doesn't surprise me, the man is a complete moron.

Sounds like common sense to me, I avoid iPhones (and high end Androids) like the plague, far too easy to waste time on them judging by some younger members of my family and friends who seem to be obsessed with the damn things.

[klendathu]

Does anybody really want this idiot running the country.....

[Zebb]

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Originally Posted by klendathu

Does anybody really want this idiot running the country.....

Which one?




Can we do politics here on this forum?

[Gigabit]

Look let's be honest here. Ed Miliband isn't an idiot, he's actually a very intelligent man. However, he would not be a good leader of this country.

People don't trust Labour running this country anyway.

Now back onto topic...

How are BlackBerry still going?

[The Lord Lucan]

I'd prefer Ed as PM with Sturgeon keeping him on the correct path. Than what we have currently.

Sturgeon has an iPhone 6 on EE #justsaying

[Gigabit]

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Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan

I'd prefer Ed as PM with Sturgeon keeping him on the correct path. Than what we have currently.

Dear God no.

[Radiogram]

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Originally Posted by enapace

Honestly I couldn't care what this guy does or says. The Jeremy Paxton interview showed that he couldn't even answer a simple question.

The Paxman interview only succeeded in proving Paxman is a prize pillock.

[Thine Wonk]

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Originally Posted by Radiogram

The Paxman interview only succeeded in proving Paxman is a prize pillock.

The ITV ones last night were the same for me, every 30 seconds he got to speak he did a deep look down the lens of the camera and kept saying "If I'm your Prime Minister, I'll do...."

Although the sound-bites sound good, you realistically can't ban zero hour contracts because some people want them and even if you do the employers will just offer 1 hour contracts with overtime paid at the same rate where needed or some other workaround. 10 hour contracts, where do you stop? if you ban 10 hour contracts then students may not be able to take a little job, same with a cleaning lady who might do 10 hours a week.

Just like when he wanted to freeze energy energy prices at a set amount which he specified, then the energy prices actually fell below that amount he would have frozen it at!!!!!!

The Blackberry story is more of the same kind of thinking as examples above, poorly thought out plans of the kind that got us into the last mess we're just about to get out of.

[Gigabit]

Labour wants to ban zero-hour contracts? Lots of Labour MPs using them. Also, they left them unregulated from 1997 to 2010 so I don't think they really care to be honest.

[enapace]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

The ITV ones last night were the same for me, every 30 seconds he got to speak he did a deep look down the lens of the camera and kept saying "If I'm your Prime Minister, I'll do...."

Although the sound-bites sound good, you realistically can't ban zero hour contracts because some people want them and even if you do the employers will just offer 1 hour contracts with overtime paid at the same rate where needed or some other workaround. 10 hour contracts, where do you stop? if you ban 10 hour contracts then students may not be able to take a little job, same with a cleaning lady who might do 10 hours a week.

Just like when he wanted to freeze energy energy prices at a set amount which he specified, then the energy prices actually fell below that amount he would have frozen it at!!!!!!

The Blackberry story is more of the same kind of thinking as examples above, poorly thought out plans of the kind that got us into the last mess we're just about to get out of.

It's just one of his useless promises like his tuition fees lower it is not going happen. I did think it was funny how only 2/7 actually admitted nothing could be done about EU immigration. Which is the truth not sure why that is hard admit EU reform won't change that. I did also love how Nigel Farage said what everyone has been thinking about Britains EU power after the Junker crap.

I definitely agree with something's Farage said but he does seem blame EU immigration in regards to everything. Miliband seems to think it's not a problem at all and that it shouldn't be a priority it definetely is. I honestly at this point would vote Lib Dems before Labour.

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

Labour wants to ban zero-hour contracts? Lots of Labour MPs using them. Also, they left them unregulated from 1997 to 2010 so I don't think they really care to be honest.

They never seem keep there promises look at the university tuition fees in more than one election campaign they told young people they weren't going get changed then they did.

[Gigabit]

I'm not going to pretend that the Conservatives are perfect (they're not: Michael Gove anyone?) but they're the least bad IMO.

[Thine Wonk]

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

Labour wants to ban zero-hour contracts? Lots of Labour MPs using them. Also, they left them unregulated from 1997 to 2010 so I don't think they really care to be honest.

The big election thing for Labour was going to be the energy companies and the fuel prices, then they abandoned that due to the fracking coming out of the US and the middle east new capacity which dropped the oil prices.

Then they said they were going to target the NHS (weaponize was the word used, direct quote on record). The issue is that they want to make deeper cuts to it than the Tories!

Zero hours contracts seems to be another thing if theirs, it is a nice sound-bite but very difficult to do in practice and low and behold, we find out yesterday that their own Labour MPs are hiring people on zero hours contracts, the kind they want to ban!

[d123]

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Originally Posted by Gigabit

Labour wants to ban zero-hour contracts? Lots of Labour MPs using them. Also, they left them unregulated from 1997 to 2010 so I don't think they really care to be honest.

AIUI, they don't want to ban them outright (but perhaps I've misunderstood) I took it to be if you were consistently working 20 hours a week, as an example, that after a certain time period you would have to be given a contract for 20 hours a week (and the accompanying rights, like holiday pay for 20 hours a week).

They were also talking about banning the practice of the worker being called the night before (or even the same day) and told they must come to work, or being sent home when they arrive for a shift because management decide they don't need them.

This was from what I've read, I didn't bother to watch the debate as 7 talking heads in under 2 hours was never going to give anything of substance discussed.

[Thine Wonk]

Vince cable says

"I just don't see the Miliband proposals as being practical because we know there are large numbers of companies that don't have constant work and there are large numbers of people who prefer flexibility,"

An Institute of Directors spokesman, said

"It's acted as an employment stabiliser and indeed there are only 700,000 people on these contracts, of whom only a third want more hours."

The other thing to bear in mind is that the last parliament banned exclusive zero hours contracts AND that Labour MPs themselves are employing people on them! double standards and loss of credibility.

An even more sobering thought.... Ed Balls as chancellor

Please view and think carefully about your vote https://youtu.be/upCHIdA8t2U?t=6m14s

[DevonBloke]

I would agree actually that it's not Miliband that's the major problem, it's Balls.
That man is a total liability for them, end of!

I'm not going to beat about the bush, I'm a Farmer's Son from South Devon. You don't need me to tell you where my vote is going but I am always ready to listen to the other side.
It's what keeps my lot in check to be honest.

I'm sorry but there is no sane person alive who just on the economy alone would not pick Osborne over Balls. You would have to be madder than a box of frogs!!!

Talking of which, Nicola Sturgeon is more mad than a mad box of frogs but you know what, I like her and she's a Woman and we need more Women in there to stir it up a bit.

I do really think this election is getting quite exciting and you haven't heard that for a long while.

We do need the Tories to finish the job though or we are are all screwed!!!

As my dry witted Yorkshire Dentist said to me about 3 years ago "you know what?, they're all a bunch of idiots who couldn't run a piss up in a brewery, but this lot are the best of a bad bunch"

[Thine Wonk]

A very interesting way of looking at it is that the biggest issue the country faces right now is all about economics, GDP, growth, tax, national debt, deficit. Our job growth, pensions and improvement of living standards depend on it and that we should be strongly considering who should be chancellor as much as Prime Minister.

Ask the chancellors
Ed Balls
George Osboune

[The Lord Lucan]

As much as this has gone rather political.. I don't think the Tories have been successful in anything other than stripping the country to the bone. Austerity has largely failed and if you look at it rather than listen to Osborne, the economy has suffered due to further than needed cuts.

[Thine Wonk]

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Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan

As much as this has gone rather political.. I don't think the Tories have been successful in anything other than stripping the country to the bone. Austerity has largely failed and if you look at it rather than listen to Osborne, the economy has suffered due to further than needed cuts.

They have created 2,000,000 jobs and reduced the deficit in half.

[finbaar]

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Originally Posted by Thine Wonk

Doesn't surprise me, the man is a complete moron.

Really?