Apple invents new phone unlock system using facial recognition

Richard_T · 03-04-2015, 12:49

Apple have invented, and been granted a patent for the unlocking of mobile devices such as iPhones by the use of facial recognition.
Instead of using the slide to unlock and/or a pin code thanks to apples innovation users will be able to unlock their device by simply looking at it.
Full information here:
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...ng-system.html
Woe betide anyone found to be slavishly copying and ripping off Apples innovations.

lightspeed2398 · 03-04-2015, 12:53

That's a patent from 2012? Also Android has had this system since Android 4.0 ICS and it was recently "revamped" for Android 5.0 Lollipop. It's not as though this is a recent innovation either, I remember so Laptops doing this in the mid-2000s as well.

enapace · 03-04-2015, 13:20

It isn't that good anyway. Fingerprint scanners are far better for unlocking purposes.

alanwarwic · 03-04-2015, 13:37

Like Siri it will have a sense of humour rather than be accurate like Now.
When it fails at the 2nd attempt it will get Siri to say 'did you remember to shave this morning'.

finbaar · 03-04-2015, 13:44

I just wish Apple would hurry up and invent wireless charging.

Richard_T · 03-04-2015, 13:50

slightly worng link in the origianl post - it should be
Apple Granted face unlock patent - slightly more up to date link from March 31st, 2015
http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...etal-more.html

Gigabit · 03-04-2015, 13:53

How can they patent something that's already in use...

Thine Wonk · 03-04-2015, 13:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by finbaar

I just wish Apple would hurry up and invent wireless charging.

I think pretty soon Apple will be announcing wonderful and magical wireless charging and all the people that buy Apple phones will wonder why nobody else had thought of it before.

Still, it is great to see the announcement today that Apple have invented face to unlock.

Roush · 03-04-2015, 14:26

Hmm, interesting.

Application originally filed in March 2011 and pre-dates Google's face unlock patent application by 6 months.

The Lord Lucan · 03-04-2015, 15:21

There is wireless charging in the market place, but it's almost contact based. Apple recently patented a distance based i.e. a whole desk or whole room based wireless charging system.

Also i doubt this face lock will be used in a phone or tablet.... read in to that as you wish.

Thine Wonk · 03-04-2015, 16:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan

There is wireless charging in the market place, but it's almost contact based. Apple recently patented a distance based i.e. a whole desk or whole room based wireless charging system.

Also i doubt this face lock will be used in a phone or tablet.... read in to that as you wish.

The iCar?

You get in and it starts the engine and says "good morning Michael".

DevonBloke · 03-04-2015, 16:36

At which point I would say.. "Who the hell is Michael"????
Hahahahahahahaha
LOL

Thine Wonk · 03-04-2015, 16:37

Quote:

Originally Posted by DevonBloke

At which point I would say.. "Who the hell is Michael"????
Hahahahahahahaha
LOL

This man wouldn't though.
https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images.../BAmdIaM8.jpeg

DevonBloke · 03-04-2015, 16:42

I looked a bit like that at 25!

Wait!!..... How cool would it be if Apple went for a change of name.....

In 2016 I could be upgrading to the Knight Industries Two Thousand iKITT 7.

EDIT: I award myself 10 points for that!

Chrysalis · 03-04-2015, 16:51

software patents are just stupid, they shouldnt be granted.

Stig · 03-04-2015, 17:39

Microsoft announced Hello last week, which is a similar system that uses IR cameras for facial recognition.

DevonBloke · 03-04-2015, 17:55

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan

There is wireless charging in the market place, but it's almost contact based. Apple recently patented a distance based i.e. a whole desk or whole room based wireless charging system.

Also i doubt this face lock will be used in a phone or tablet.... read in to that as you wish.

I read into that, iCar and iMac.
Having it on iOS devices would be confusing what with the current Touch ID.
Doubly so when Apple Pay launches.
Apple want Apple Pay to just work. Two forms of authentication would certainly confuse most of my customers.

bottleofbest · 03-04-2015, 18:10

It's like déjà vu! Apple applauds itself for inventing technologies that already exist. Okay, in this instance they haven't patted themselves on the back, but they have tweaked and then patented an existing technology.

enapace · 03-04-2015, 18:22

I remember the old face recognition cameras you could fake with a picture of the person in front of the camera lol

DevonBloke · 03-04-2015, 18:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by bottleofbest

It's like déjà vu! Apple applauds itself for inventing technologies that already exist. Okay, in this instance they haven't patted themselves on the back, but they have tweaked and then patented an existing technology.

But that's the point they don't invent new technologies. That's not where their strength lies.
What Apple are totally the best at it taking a tech that doesn't quite work as it should, throwing shed loads of R&D at it and making it work properly.
Take Touch ID for example. Fingerprint readers have been around for ages but they were always crap. Now you have the 5s, 6 and 6+ with a reader that actually works 99 times out of a hundred and at any angle and direction.
I was very dubious before I had to set up some of my customer's iPhone 5s' and then it was like, WOW... it works..... every time...

With Apple Pay it's the same. Google have had it for ages but it's flawed and even hardened Android fans have admitted Apple pay combined with Touch ID is where it's at!

Don't get me wrong, I hate all this Apple vs Google crap that goes on and I'm not anti Android at all. Just saying Apple are always misunderstood in that they are always expected to bring out something new when in fact what they do is add a feature that didn't really work properly before but now, does.

The Lord Lucan · 03-04-2015, 19:05

Well they have invented a few things.. then they have also bought into new inventions no one else has but I agree, they take good ideas that have been implemented badly and make them work correctly.

Stiggles · 03-04-2015, 19:14

Quote:

Originally Posted by enapace

It isn't that good anyway. Fingerprint scanners are far better for unlocking purposes.

Worked every time for me when i started using it when it came out. That was until i got bored of the novelty factor after a few days.

Oh and of course it didn't work in the dark!

bottleofbest · 03-04-2015, 19:27

It just makes me laugh when we see an Apple advert and they sell something as a revolution. Take Siri, for example. They marketed that like it was this brand new service that no one else offered, yet it had been available for years on other devices.

I'm not anti-Apple, but I do believe they over charge for their devices compared to other brands and Samsung is heading very much the same way.

tdenson · 04-04-2015, 22:10

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gigabit

How can they patent something that's already in use...

Because as someone else has pointed out, they patented it 4 years ago. People on here seem to be confusing the filing of a patent with the grant of a patent.

alanwarwic · 05-04-2015, 12:43

http://www.techeye.net/business/belg...ftware-patents

"Another plaintiff, ESOMA founder and chairman Pieter Hintjens, added that, “in 2007 we showed how this plan would raise costs by at least four times."

Probably true now, common sense patents for sliding your finger, predictive text, phone numbers in a web page, using a camera for anything practical etc etc likely making up, by far, the major cost.

03-04-2015, 12:49	#1
Richard_T Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: East Midlands Posts: 3,842	Apple invents new phone unlock system using facial recognition Apple have invented, and been granted a patent for the unlocking of mobile devices such as iPhones by the use of facial recognition. Instead of using the slide to unlock and/or a pin code thanks to apples innovation users will be able to unlock their device by simply looking at it. Full information here: http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...ng-system.html Woe betide anyone found to be slavishly copying and ripping off Apples innovations.

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03-04-2015, 12:53	#2
lightspeed2398 Forum Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Posts: 1,325	That's a patent from 2012? Also Android has had this system since Android 4.0 ICS and it was recently "revamped" for Android 5.0 Lollipop. It's not as though this is a recent innovation either, I remember so Laptops doing this in the mid-2000s as well.

03-04-2015, 13:20	#3
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	It isn't that good anyway. Fingerprint scanners are far better for unlocking purposes.

03-04-2015, 13:37	#4
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	Like Siri it will have a sense of humour rather than be accurate like Now. When it fails at the 2nd attempt it will get Siri to say 'did you remember to shave this morning'.

03-04-2015, 13:44	#5
finbaar Forum Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 3,921	I just wish Apple would hurry up and invent wireless charging.

03-04-2015, 13:50	#6
Richard_T Forum Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: East Midlands Posts: 3,842	slightly worng link in the origianl post - it should be Apple Granted face unlock patent - slightly more up to date link from March 31st, 2015 http://www.patentlyapple.com/patentl...etal-more.html

03-04-2015, 13:53	#7
Gigabit Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 2,887	How can they patent something that's already in use...

03-04-2015, 13:56	#8
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by finbaar I just wish Apple would hurry up and invent wireless charging. I think pretty soon Apple will be announcing wonderful and magical wireless charging and all the people that buy Apple phones will wonder why nobody else had thought of it before. Still, it is great to see the announcement today that Apple have invented face to unlock.

03-04-2015, 14:26	#9
Roush Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 2,938	Hmm, interesting. Application originally filed in March 2011 and pre-dates Google's face unlock patent application by 6 months.

03-04-2015, 15:21	#10
The Lord Lucan Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,966	There is wireless charging in the market place, but it's almost contact based. Apple recently patented a distance based i.e. a whole desk or whole room based wireless charging system. Also i doubt this face lock will be used in a phone or tablet.... read in to that as you wish.

03-04-2015, 16:26	#11
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan There is wireless charging in the market place, but it's almost contact based. Apple recently patented a distance based i.e. a whole desk or whole room based wireless charging system. Also i doubt this face lock will be used in a phone or tablet.... read in to that as you wish. The iCar? You get in and it starts the engine and says "good morning Michael".

03-04-2015, 16:36	#12
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	At which point I would say.. "Who the hell is Michael"???? Hahahahahahahaha LOL

03-04-2015, 16:37	#13
Thine Wonk Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 14,577	Quote: Originally Posted by DevonBloke At which point I would say.. "Who the hell is Michael"???? Hahahahahahahaha LOL This man wouldn't though. https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images.../BAmdIaM8.jpeg

03-04-2015, 16:42	#14
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	I looked a bit like that at 25! Wait!!..... How cool would it be if Apple went for a change of name..... In 2016 I could be upgrading to the Knight Industries Two Thousand iKITT 7. EDIT: I award myself 10 points for that!

03-04-2015, 16:51	#15
Chrysalis Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Leics Posts: 581	software patents are just stupid, they shouldnt be granted.

03-04-2015, 17:39	#16
Stig Forum Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Sandy Heath, Beds. UK Posts: 10,383	Microsoft announced Hello last week, which is a similar system that uses IR cameras for facial recognition.

03-04-2015, 17:55	#17
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by The Lord Lucan There is wireless charging in the market place, but it's almost contact based. Apple recently patented a distance based i.e. a whole desk or whole room based wireless charging system. Also i doubt this face lock will be used in a phone or tablet.... read in to that as you wish. I read into that, iCar and iMac. Having it on iOS devices would be confusing what with the current Touch ID. Doubly so when Apple Pay launches. Apple want Apple Pay to just work. Two forms of authentication would certainly confuse most of my customers.

03-04-2015, 18:10	#18
bottleofbest Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: west midlands Posts: 5,968	It's like déjà vu! Apple applauds itself for inventing technologies that already exist. Okay, in this instance they haven't patted themselves on the back, but they have tweaked and then patented an existing technology.

03-04-2015, 18:22	#19
enapace Forum Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Posts: 4,249	I remember the old face recognition cameras you could fake with a picture of the person in front of the camera lol

03-04-2015, 18:38	#20
DevonBloke Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Totnes, Devon Posts: 6,694	Quote: Originally Posted by bottleofbest It's like déjà vu! Apple applauds itself for inventing technologies that already exist. Okay, in this instance they haven't patted themselves on the back, but they have tweaked and then patented an existing technology. But that's the point they don't invent new technologies. That's not where their strength lies. What Apple are totally the best at it taking a tech that doesn't quite work as it should, throwing shed loads of R&D at it and making it work properly. Take Touch ID for example. Fingerprint readers have been around for ages but they were always crap. Now you have the 5s, 6 and 6+ with a reader that actually works 99 times out of a hundred and at any angle and direction. I was very dubious before I had to set up some of my customer's iPhone 5s' and then it was like, WOW... it works..... every time... With Apple Pay it's the same. Google have had it for ages but it's flawed and even hardened Android fans have admitted Apple pay combined with Touch ID is where it's at! Don't get me wrong, I hate all this Apple vs Google crap that goes on and I'm not anti Android at all. Just saying Apple are always misunderstood in that they are always expected to bring out something new when in fact what they do is add a feature that didn't really work properly before but now, does.

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The Lord Lucan Forum Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,966	Well they have invented a few things.. then they have also bought into new inventions no one else has but I agree, they take good ideas that have been implemented badly and make them work correctly.

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03-04-2015, 19:14	#22
Stiggles Forum Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Dundee, Scotland Posts: 9,293	Quote: Originally Posted by enapace It isn't that good anyway. Fingerprint scanners are far better for unlocking purposes. Worked every time for me when i started using it when it came out. That was until i got bored of the novelty factor after a few days. Oh and of course it didn't work in the dark!

03-04-2015, 19:27	#23
bottleofbest Forum Member Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: west midlands Posts: 5,968	It just makes me laugh when we see an Apple advert and they sell something as a revolution. Take Siri, for example. They marketed that like it was this brand new service that no one else offered, yet it had been available for years on other devices. I'm not anti-Apple, but I do believe they over charge for their devices compared to other brands and Samsung is heading very much the same way.

04-04-2015, 22:10	#24
tdenson Forum Member Join Date: Aug 2005 Posts: 4,214	Quote: Originally Posted by Gigabit How can they patent something that's already in use... Because as someone else has pointed out, they patented it 4 years ago. People on here seem to be confusing the filing of a patent with the grant of a patent.

05-04-2015, 12:43	#25
alanwarwic Forum Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: the wild world web Posts: 28,132	http://www.techeye.net/business/belg...ftware-patents "Another plaintiff, ESOMA founder and chairman Pieter Hintjens, added that, “in 2007 we showed how this plan would raise costs by at least four times." Probably true now, common sense patents for sliding your finger, predictive text, phone numbers in a web page, using a camera for anything practical etc etc likely making up, by far, the major cost.