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Old 03-04-2015, 21:12
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As I said before Cindy and that daughter of hers are both pointless.

And tonight this impertinent, crass, ungrateful useless, pointless bitch has just reached height of the most hateful character ( after Kat ) on EE right now ( & Nancy is not far behind with those 2).

Threatening Ian & Jane to leave if they chose to keep her daughter????? Are you serious???? Yet when Ian told her they can't stop her if she goes, what did she do she even made a demand so that she will stay!!!! Unbelievable!!!

She should have been kicked out along with a kitchen sink to hit her hard with her kind of obnoxious attitude!

Who the hell does she think she is!!!
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Old 03-04-2015, 21:14
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Love Cindy, got a lot of time for her. She tells it like it is and isn't afraid to bring that pair of prized hypocrites Beale or LadyMcBeale down a peg or two.

Absolute quality.
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Old 03-04-2015, 21:31
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Cindy is not pointless and she's actually one of the best in ee at the moment. When she first came she was pointless but now she's very much earnt her place. Beth while yes she's pointless but she provided mimi with some brilliant material with the birth scene.

Cindy now has pretty much became a stable in ians family and they have bonded really well. She also provides liam with some material which is long overdue for him. Mimi also is very capable as we saw in the live scene and I hope
She sticks around for the long haul like lorna/abi, James/Liam have
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Old 04-04-2015, 03:26
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I really like Cindy. She's not pointless or all the other things the OP has said about her. There are younger viewers who like Liam and Cindy. I'm hoping Cindy stays for good. I think Mimi Keene is a fantastic actress and she's really improved lately. James Forde is good too. Eastenders needs it's younger characters. I like Kat and Nancy also.
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Old 04-04-2015, 04:22
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As I said before Cindy and that daughter of hers are both pointless.

And tonight this impertinent, crass, ungrateful useless, pointless bitch has just reached height of the most hateful character ( after Kat ) on EE right now ( & Nancy is not far behind with those 2).

Threatening Ian & Jane to leave if they chose to keep her daughter????? Are you serious???? Yet when Ian told her they can't stop her if she goes, what did she do she even made a demand so that she will stay!!!! Unbelievable!!!

She should have been kicked out along with a kitchen sink to hit her hard with her kind of obnoxious attitude!

Who the hell does she think she is!!!
Beth's mum? She has every right to be concerned about her daughter being raised by Ian. You're acting like the demand she made was unreasonable. Are you actually blaming her for making Ian promise that he won't bully Beth into doing what he wants her to do with her life? If it was down to him, she'd be another worker in his cafe or chip shop.

Cindy can't be blamed for that "demand" at all
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Old 04-04-2015, 06:33
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Beth's mum? She has every right to be concerned about her daughter being raised by Ian. You're acting like the demand she made was unreasonable. Are you actually blaming her for making Ian promise that he won't bully Beth into doing what he wants her to do with her life? If it was down to him, she'd be another worker in his cafe or chip shop.

Cindy can't be blamed for that "demand" at all
Exactly.

On the contrary OP, I'd like to know who Ian and Jane think they are.
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Old 04-04-2015, 07:46
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Cindy is great and far from pointless.
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Old 04-04-2015, 10:43
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As I said before Cindy and that daughter of hers are both pointless.

And tonight this impertinent, crass, ungrateful useless, pointless bitch has just reached height of the most hateful character ( after Kat ) on EE right now ( & Nancy is not far behind with those 2).

Threatening Ian & Jane to leave if they chose to keep her daughter????? Are you serious???? Yet when Ian told her they can't stop her if she goes, what did she do she even made a demand so that she will stay!!!! Unbelievable!!!

She should have been kicked out along with a kitchen sink to hit her hard with her kind of obnoxious attitude!

Who the hell does she think she is!!!
You couldn't be more wrong. She was spot on last night and has been in previous episodes. Ian and Jane are bullies.
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Old 04-04-2015, 10:47
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I really like Cindy. She's not pointless or all the other things the OP has said about her. There are younger viewers who like Liam and Cindy. I'm hoping Cindy stays for good. I think Mimi Keene is a fantastic actress and she's really improved lately. James Forde is good too. Eastenders needs it's younger characters. I like Kat and Nancy also.
ee needs the balance of age groups so all audience have atleast one character or a few in their age group they can really related to. Liam I am glad is being used a lot more recently and I hope he continues to be used right and has a storyline this year.
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Old 04-04-2015, 10:53
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As I said before Cindy and that daughter of hers are both pointless.

And tonight this impertinent, crass, ungrateful useless, pointless bitch has just reached height of the most hateful character ( after Kat ) on EE right now ( & Nancy is not far behind with those 2).

Threatening Ian & Jane to leave if they chose to keep her daughter????? Are you serious???? Yet when Ian told her they can't stop her if she goes, what did she do she even made a demand so that she will stay!!!! Unbelievable!!!

She should have been kicked out along with a kitchen sink to hit her hard with her kind of obnoxious attitude!

Who the hell does she think she is!!!
Wow! There's a lot of unnecessary anger/hatred in the above post. Cindy's an okay lass. I just think she's not determined enough when it comes to trying to bond with her daughter. I've not seen her trying to show warmth to her, or even look like she's enjoying being with her. Even though Cindy seems to be an okay lass, she does seem to be quite immature.
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Old 04-04-2015, 12:21
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I think she has post natal depression
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Old 04-04-2015, 12:22
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I think she has post natal depression
Me too - but im not sure im the actress is strong enough to pull it off, however she proved herself in live week.
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Old 04-04-2015, 15:49
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Cindy is great and the actress is excellent..Ian and Jane are like a pair of vampires hovering in the background waiting to steal her child..
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Old 04-04-2015, 16:09
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I think she has post natal depression
That's exactly how I'm seeing it.
I'm horrified that nobody else - especially Jane - has even considered this.

It's clear to me that what Cindy needs is professional help, not the treatment she's currently getting from Ian & Jane.

She needs to see her GP asap and get treatment before going along the adoption route.

Perhaps if she'd called social services re adoption, the might have pursued the PND line with her. At least I would HOPE that's what SS would do in these circumstances.

Where's Lola?

I think Lola could be a real help to Cindy right now.

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Besides, I thought that very young Mums were supposed to receive all sorts of support? Where is it all?
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Old 04-04-2015, 17:12
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Neither are right. Ian and Jane should be supporting Cindy through her PND and getting her the help she deserves to be a better mother and bond with Beth. Though I can understand Cindy's concerns about Ian and Jane as adoptive parents for Beth because of how Lucy, Peter and Bobby turned out, giving her up to complete strangers may be a worse option, because they may be worser people than Ian and Jane.

The best person to parent Beth is Cindy, although she can't see through it. All she needs is someone compassionate enough to listen to her and give confidence and show her how to be a parent.
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Old 04-04-2015, 17:15
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Beth's mum? She has every right to be concerned about her daughter being raised by Ian. You're acting like the demand she made was unreasonable. Are you actually blaming her for making Ian promise that he won't bully Beth into doing what he wants her to do with her life? If it was down to him, she'd be another worker in his cafe or chip shop.

Cindy can't be blamed for that "demand" at all
This.
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Old 04-04-2015, 18:01
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As I said before Cindy and that daughter of hers are both pointless.

And tonight this impertinent, crass, ungrateful useless, pointless bitch has just reached height of the most hateful character ( after Kat ) on EE right now ( & Nancy is not far behind with those 2).

Threatening Ian & Jane to leave if they chose to keep her daughter????? Are you serious???? Yet when Ian told her they can't stop her if she goes, what did she do she even made a demand so that she will stay!!!! Unbelievable!!!

She should have been kicked out along with a kitchen sink to hit her hard with her kind of obnoxious attitude!

Who the hell does she think she is!!!
I think you need to calm down a bit......
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Old 04-04-2015, 18:17
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I'm obsessed with Cindy, she's clearly the new Janine.

Also, I'm pretty sure you've already made a thread calling Cindy pointless and you were shot down in flames. Let it go.
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Old 04-04-2015, 18:18
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I think you're alone in thinking this

Cindy is brilliant! She is one of the strongest characters in the show at the moment.
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Old 04-04-2015, 19:31
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I like Cindy although this not being able to bond with beth seems to have come out of nowhere because at the start Cindy was coping very well but since beth come back she's really struggling. Definitely don't agree with op that she's pointless.
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Old 04-04-2015, 22:54
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Never really been a fan of Cindy, but I had to agree with her re all this Beth stuff. If she didn't want Beth in her life or the responsibility of her, then living in the same house as her really wasn't going to work. I didn't really get why Ian and Jane didn't suss that out. I know they were desperate for Beth to stay, but they weren't really thinking about Cindy.

She made some good points and it's not often I think that about her!
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Old 04-04-2015, 23:06
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More to the point, why does she speak in such a posh accent and whyyyyyyyy doessssss sheeeeee drawwwwww outtttttt theeeeeee enddddd offfffffff everyyyyyyy worddddddd sheeeeeee saysssssss !
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Old 04-04-2015, 23:44
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How is she pointless? Please explain what you mean by pointless? She is the last of the original Cindy's kids that is still in the show and also has the making to be the next Janine. Also the actress proved herself during the live week so she is more than welcome to stay in the show,

Also can you blame her for the way she's behaving? Ian and Jane aren't supporting her or giving her the help she needs. They're more interested in her baby.
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Old 05-04-2015, 00:52
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Neither are right. Ian and Jane should be supporting Cindy through her PND and getting her the help she deserves to be a better mother and bond with Beth. Though I can understand Cindy's concerns about Ian and Jane as adoptive parents for Beth because of how Lucy, Peter and Bobby turned out, giving her up to complete strangers may be a worse option, because they may be worser people than Ian and Jane.

The best person to parent Beth is Cindy, although she can't see through it. All she needs is someone compassionate enough to listen to her and give confidence and show her how to be a parent.
Ian and Jane are using Beth to distract themselves from Lucy's murder and maintain Ian's mental health and their delusion of normality. They want to raise her alongside their violent son who they have never sought treatment for. She would be better off with strangers.
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Old 05-04-2015, 02:34
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I don't think she is obnoxious she is a typical sixteen year old girl
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