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Bendy phones
I know a lot of people are interested in this after the iPhone made the headlines for being so bendy, and there was much discussion about it here.
Weirdly the equally bendy S6 hasn't been mentioned at all. Probably just an oversight by everyone with a general, and not brand specific, interest in bendy phones. So this is for all those who like to discuss bendy phones. |
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Weirdly the equally bendy S6 hasn't been mentioned at all.
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Phew. I thought there had to be one, but didn't see it even after searching. Can you post the link?
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http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2063136
OK, it's the S6 Edge not the S6 but still valid. |
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My bad - don't know how I missed it.
Mind you, it does seem to have fizzled out very quickly - I'm sure other discussions about bendy phones generated a lot more interest. |
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To be fair with a title like that you weren't going to find it were you!
I had a quick look (as I thought I could recall something about it) and missed it too.
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Definitely slept that one
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Just how does someone like the OP get so emotionally involved in a brand they need to defend and protect it so much.
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Its really not about being emotionally involved in anything, or needing to defend or protect anything.
It is about genuine bemusement that a brand seems to generate so much hysteria and wholly disproportionate negative attention. This subject illustrates the point perfectly - iPhones that bend (even though its obviously under a lot of undue pressure to do so)? People couldn't wait to make it into some huge deal. Other phones that bend under similar circumstances? Barely a peep. So it really isn't about some emotional investment on my part - its simply that I find that apparent double standard kinda interesting. For my part, I don't ever start any discussions saying how great something to do with Apple is. If anything I just reply to stuff that is, invariably, over the top, wholly disproportionate or just plain wrong. |
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Its really not about being emotionally involved in anything, or needing to defend or protect anything.
It is about genuine bemusement that a brand seems to generate so much hysteria and wholly disproportionate negative attention. This subject illustrates the point perfectly - iPhones that bend (even though its obviously under a lot of undue pressure to do so)? People couldn't wait to make it into some huge deal. Other phones that bend under similar circumstances? Barely a peep. So it really isn't about some emotional investment on my part - its simply that I find that apparent double standard kinda interesting. For my part, I don't ever start any discussions saying how great something to do with Apple is. If anything I just reply to stuff that is, invariably, over the top, wholly disproportionate or just plain wrong. So no real world tests have happened yet. The iphone debacle happened weeks after release after actual users found phones bending with pretty much no force at all sitting in pockets. I personally think they generate a lot of negative attention because people realise they aren't quite as good as they are made out. That's certainly what i have found using apple products. So there is nothing kinda interesting in this at all. Wait at least a few weeks after release and see if there are any real reports before trolling next time. |
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Samsung doesn't garner anywhere near the amount of attention that Apple does. It's no wonder the bendy S6 isn't making headlines. The S6 could cure cancer and let you talk to your god but it would still be the latest iPhone everyone talks about.
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I think in tests it was an Apple phone that bend in the pocket with 70lbs of force whilst the Samsung did it under 150 or so lbs of force.
Considering Apple told us that it is meant to be rare to have a bend under only 70lbs of force you can conclude that the Samsung was 100s of times less likely to bend, in that 150lbs force would then be near impossible compared to a supposedly strong 70. |
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Treat your phone properly and it will last for years -that means don't keep it in the back pocket of you stupid hipster skinny jeans.
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I think in tests it was an Apple phone that bend in the pocket with 70lbs of force whilst the Samsung did it under 150 or so lbs of force.
Considering Apple told us that it is meant to be rare to have a bend under only 70lbs of force you can conclude that the Samsung was 100s of times less likely to bend, in that 150lbs force would then be near impossible compared to a supposedly strong 70. http://money.cnn.com/2015/04/03/tech...ung-galaxy-s6/ http://forums.digitalspy.co.uk/showthread.php?t=2063136 |
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I was talking about actual practical, non metal phones.
This 'not designed for pockets ' thing is still patented by a select 'shiny flaky' few. And as we know that the iPhone 6 bends at 70lbs, so 110 lbs has to be many times better. Also, as we once knew the 6 Plus bent at only 90lbs we now have to ask, what has been done to make it better ? |
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I was talking about actual practical, non metal phones.
This 'not designed for pockets ' thing is still patented by a select few. And as we know that the iPhone 6 bends at 70lbs, so 110 lbs has to be many times better. Also, as we once knew the 6 Plus bent at only 90lbs we now have to ask, what has been done to make it better ? |
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I am asking why the iPhone 6 Plus has gone up from the 90lbs Consumer Report test to 110lbs here.
It really does need explaining when you consider the CR one was called an 'industry standard' test. The other thing you have to ask is why the phone that 'bends under normal use' was left out. It does sort of look like a bit of fiddling has made it into 'Our least shite big iPhone is as bad as your most shite S6 phone'. |
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Barely a peep because the bloody thing isn't even out yet!!
So no real world tests have happened yet. The iphone debacle happened weeks after release after actual users found phones bending with pretty much no force at all sitting in pockets. I personally think they generate a lot of negative attention because people realise they aren't quite as good as they are made out. That's certainly what i have found using apple products. So there is nothing kinda interesting in this at all. Wait at least a few weeks after release and see if there are any real reports before trolling next time. So its your belief that had the whole thing about bendy iPhones come out before they were released, it wouldn't have generated the column inches it did? And that the only reason this hasn't happened with the S6 is because it hasn't been released yet? If you say so, but I think we both know that isn't true. The main reason it all died down was because it was blatantly obvious that in real world use, when people weren't actually trying to bend them, it wasn't really an issue at all. As for Apple making out their phoned are good, do Samsung not do that? |
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I think in tests it was an Apple phone that bend in the pocket with 70lbs of force whilst the Samsung did it under 150 or so lbs of force.
Considering Apple told us that it is meant to be rare to have a bend under only 70lbs of force you can conclude that the Samsung was 100s of times less likely to bend, in that 150lbs force would then be near impossible compared to a supposedly strong 70. |
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The big wow is that if this is a like for like test then Apple have done a silent update on the Plus to make it less bendy.
The Plus going from 90lb to 110lb is a sudden big leap . Has that paltry 70lb for the iPhone 6 also increased due to a newer manufacturing method, or are these simply tests chalk and cheese ? |
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The big wow is that if this is a like for like test then Apple have done a silent update on the Plus to make it less bendy.
The Plus going from 90lb to 110lb is a sudden big leap . Has that paltry 70lb for the iPhone 6 also increased due to a newer manufacturing method, or are these simply tests chalk and cheese ? However, what is not in doubt is the findings from SquareTrade. What is also not in doubt is that this is not really an issue, just like it never was with the iPhone 6. I'm sure a few obsessives will claim it's an issue, but they tend to have selective principles so can't really be taken seriously. |
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OK.
So its your belief that had the whole thing about bendy iPhones come out before they were released, it wouldn't have generated the column inches it did? And that the only reason this hasn't happened with the S6 is because it hasn't been released yet? If you say so, but I think we both know that isn't true. The main reason it all died down was because it was blatantly obvious that in real world use, when people weren't actually trying to bend them, it wasn't really an issue at all. As for Apple making out their phoned are good, do Samsung not do that? The news about the iphone only surfaced weeks after release when people started finding their phones bent. There was and is still an issue with it. It's has only died down because people are aware of it. It hasn't stopped it actually happening! A few folk i know have had bent iphones and haven't abused them in the slightest. Having a phone in a pocket is not trying to bend it. Apple however have been fine and swapped them, which is good. When the S6 comes out and if it does bend by having it simply in a pocket then yes, there will be a problem. Until then, it's not worth even talking about it. |
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Sounds like Samsung have cocked up a bit - you would think that they would expect the press to check.
But does this make the apple situation any better for those with bent phones? Or is it just a case of "other people do it so it's fine"? Or was this not what the op was suggesting? |
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The question to ask here is, will the thousands of people having to live with a bent Galaxy S6 Edge ?
The headline still reads as 'you thought your iPhone was too soft a grade of aluminium', well here is a top phone just as bad as the less rubbish iPhone model. Now did Samsung also make it drop more calls to prove it is a real 'premium material' phone? But I have got to agree with the Reg which says "The results of SquareTrade's latest test again challenge the notion that Apple is alone in producing a large-screen handset that puts form over function." That was smashingly obvious from the start. |
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My belief? No, it's fact. You won't think it is though.
The news about the iphone only surfaced weeks after release when people started finding their phones bent. Quote:
There was and is still an issue with it. It's has only died down because people are aware of it. It hasn't stopped it actually happening! A few folk i know have had bent iphones and haven't abused them in the slightest. Having a phone in a pocket is not trying to bend it. Apple however have been fine and swapped them, which is good.
The point isn't really about whether or not there's an issue. The point is the difference between the reaction to the same issue with different phones.Having said that, I would imagine most people keep phones in their pockets. So most people's iPhone 6s should, according to you, be bent. But I'd be surprised if that was the case. Quote:
When the S6 comes out and if it does bend by having it simply in a pocket then yes, there will be a problem. Until then, it's not worth even talking about it.
Why does there need to be real world reports? These tests are reporting that it bends as easily as the iPhone. They seem pretty scientific - is there a reason you don't accept them without real world reports?I don't believe for a second that had similar reports about the iPhone surfaced before it was released it you'd be arguing that it didn't really mean anything because the phone wasn't released yet. |
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