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calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by Stuart_h:
“Sounds like Samsung have cocked up a bit - you would think that they would expect the press to check.

But does this make the apple situation any better for those with bent phones? Or is it just a case of "other people do it so it's fine"?

Or was this not what the op was suggesting?”

It was just an observation.

Bendy iPhones? Pages and pages about it.

Bendy S6s? Really not so much.

My view? In both cases, in real world use its nowhere near as big an issue as viral videos of people forcibly bending them might suggest.
calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“The big wow is that if this is a like for like test then Apple have done a silent update on the Plus to make it less bendy.

The Plus going from 90lb to 110lb is a sudden big leap . Has that paltry 70lb for the iPhone 6 also increased due to a newer manufacturing method, or are these simply tests chalk and cheese ?”

Well, that, or you dropping in those figures and concluding that the iPhone is 100x easier to bend.
alanwarwic
05-04-2015
Well, apart from metal phones, nothing else bends in your pocket.

Until we got to the Edge with that 'curved edge'. Obviously the S6 is fine though both the Edge and Plus are better than the original headline weakest link, that being the iPhone 6.

I'm sure we always knew it was just another Form over Function phone.
BeethovensPiano
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Well, apart from metal phones, nothing else bends in your pocket.

Until we got to the Edge with that 'curved edge'. Obviously the S6 is fine though both the Edge and Plus are better than the original headline weakest link, that being the iPhone 6.

I'm sure we always knew it was just another Form over Function phone.”

But at the big Samsung press event where they announced these phones - we are told Samsung phones don't bend, while having another dig at Apple. The Samsung phone bends AND shatters lol.
Stiggles
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“It was just an observation.

Bendy iPhones? Pages and pages about it.

Bendy S6s? Really not so much.

My view? In both cases, in real world use its nowhere near as big an issue as viral videos of people forcibly bending them might suggest.”

Of course there were pages and pages about it!

How can we discuss something that has had zero real world usage yet compared to one that had been out for weeks and was proven to bend? It wasn't viral videos either. Real people did have this happen, but you like to gloss over that fact. The same thing you do when apple have anything wrong or do anything wrong.

Anyway, since there is absolutely nothing to discuss, why don't we come back when the S6 has been out for weeks and see if there are any issues. How does that sound?
d123
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“But at the big Samsung press event where they announced these phones - we are told Samsung phones don't bend, while having another dig at Apple. The Samsung phone bends AND shatters lol. ”

Alan is so rabidly anti-Apple he will never admit to that...
calico_pie
05-04-2015
So do most people with iPhone 6s have bent phones, because most people keep their phone in their pocket?

If most people's iPhone 6s are bent, I'm very surprised that isn't a huge story, and Apple haven't been forced to do a massive product recall.
Stiggles
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“The whole issue didn't become a big thing after real world cases. It became a big thing after videos on the net of people willfully bending them went viral.”

No it didn't. It became an big issue when people experienced it for themselves. Apple denied all knowledge about it and refused to do anything instead accusing people of wilfully damaging them.. The viral videos came after with idiots bending them.

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“The point isn't really about whether or not there's an issue. The point is the difference between the reaction to the same issue with different phones.

Having said that, I would imagine most people keep phones in their pockets. So most people's iPhone 6s should, according to you, be bent. But I'd be surprised if that was the case. .

Why does there need to be real world reports? These tests are reporting that it bends as easily as the iPhone. They seem pretty scientific - is there a reason you don't accept them without real world reports?

I don't believe for a second that had similar reports about the iPhone surfaced before it was released it you'd be arguing that it didn't really mean anything because the phone wasn't released yet.”

Of course i would. Until the phone is out in the wild, in peoples hands, these reports mean absolutely nothing.

Lets see what happens when the phone comes out shall we?
Stiggles
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“So do most people with iPhone 6s have bent phones, because most people keep their phone in their pocket?

If most people's iPhone 6s are bent, I'm very surprised that isn't a huge story, and Apple haven't been forced to do a massive product recall.”

Who says most people? You keep saying this...
calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Of course there were pages and pages about it!

How can we discuss something that has had zero real world usage yet compared to one that had been out for weeks and was proven to bend? It wasn't viral videos either. Real people did have this happen, but you like to gloss over that fact. The same thing you do when apple have anything wrong or do anything wrong.

Anyway, since there is absolutely nothing to discuss, why don't we come back when the S6 has been out for weeks and see if there are any issues. How does that sound?”

We should be able to discuss it quite easily, because these scientific tests are reporting that they phones bend as easily as one another.

There's no way on earth that if this was the other way around the argument would be "there is absolutely nothing discuss". People would be all over it like a proverbial click bait rash.

It pretty much was the viral videos that turned a few anecdotal examples into the huge deal it became.

A bit like when a handful of people complain about people like Jonathan Ross, and then millions get their knickers in a twist after being whipped into a frenzy by the Daily Mail.
calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“Who says most people? You keep saying this... ”

Don't most people keep their phones in their pocket?
kidspud
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by BeethovensPiano:
“But at the big Samsung press event where they announced these phones - we are told Samsung phones don't bend, while having another dig at Apple. The Samsung phone bends AND shatters lol. ”

I have often said on this forum that Samsung completely miss the point with their advertising. If you take the silly ALS challenge and now the bent phone attempts at micky taking (plus many others), it just come back to bite them.

They are desperate to try and look like a premium brand but spend most of their time devaluing it themselves.
calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“No it didn't. It became an big issue when people experienced it for themselves. Apple denied all knowledge about it and refused to do anything instead accusing people of wilfully damaging them.. The viral videos came after with idiots bending them.”

It was reported, but it was those videos which led to it being blown out of all proportion.

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“Of course i would.”

I guess we'll never know.

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“Until the phone is out in the wild, in peoples hands, these reports mean absolutely nothing.”

Nothing. Apart from the phones being equally easy to bend.

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“Lets see what happens when the phone comes out shall we?”

Sure - would you like a wager?
alanwarwic
05-04-2015
Antennagate, Bendgate, Scratchgate etc etc, someone else it was normally the user was given the blame. (though A T & T got narly all the blame for dropped calls)

So has it really even been "We should be able to discuss it quite EASILY" ?


And BTW, if the Edge cracked, how can we really use that term bend ?
Surely it is a cracking phone, not a bendy phone.
Stiggles
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“Don't most people keep their phones in their pocket?”

What's your point?
calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by alanwarwic:
“Antennagate, Bendgate, Scratchgate etc etc, someone else it was normally the user was given the blame. (though A T & T got narly all the blame for dropped calls)”

And despite all the OTT hysteria, surprisingly few people had significant issues.

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“So has it really even been "We should be able to discuss it quite EASILY" ?”

Given how much has been said about so little, that's a resounding yes.
Stiggles
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“It was reported, but it was those videos which led to it being blown out of all proportion.”

It wasn't blown out of proportion though. It was a problem that somehow happened to this phone and no other phone. Sitting down with a phone even in a tight pocket shouldn't bend it. But it did.

If this is the case with samsung after slagging apple off, then as Nelson Muntz would say..."Ha Ha!!".

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“I guess we'll never know.”

You do know. I just told you...

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“Nothing. Apart from the phones being equally easy to bend.

Sure - would you like a wager?”

A wager on what? I couldn't care less if it happened or not! I wont own one like i wont own an iphone 6!
calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“What's your point? ”

You expressed confusion at the suggestion that most people keep their phones in their pockets.

So I was just asking if you agreed with that.

So don't they? I would have thought they did.

The point is that you were saying that the phones get bent for no reason other than being kept in a pocket.

So if most people keep their phone in their pocket, then it should follow that most people's iPhone 6s will be bent.

Is that what you believe to be the case?

If not, then there must be some factor other than simply keeping the phone in a pocket.
calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by Stiggles:
“It wasn't blown out of proportion though. It was a problem that somehow happened to this phone and no other phone. Sitting down with a phone even in a tight pocket shouldn't bend it. But it did.

If this is the case with samsung after slagging apple off, then as Nelson Muntz would say..."Ha Ha!!".

You do know. I just told you...

A wager on what? I couldn't care less if it happened or not! I wont own one like i wont own an iphone 6!”

We're going to have to disagree then. The amount of coverage it received was huge. If you have any figures on the proportion of users affected by the issue, I'm all ears. Given how many they've sold, even a tiny proportion would be a huge number of users. But after the hysteria died down there hasn't been much about it at all - hence my view that it was blown out of all proportion.

You did, you're right.

A wager on whether or not bent S6s will go on to generate anything like as much hysteria as happened with the iPhone. I'm saying it won't. You seem to be saying you think it will.
Everything Goes
05-04-2015
Good advice.
alanwarwic
05-04-2015
Quite obviously, we simply can't have a Crackgate cause we know it is a copycat phone !

calico_pie
05-04-2015
Originally Posted by Everything Goes:
“Good advice.”

Except its not trolling - its a genuine and legitimate observation.

Did you have anything constructive to add?
d123
06-04-2015
Originally Posted by calico_pie:
“Except its not trolling - its a genuine and legitimate observation.

Did you have anything constructive to add?”

Wasn't that link aimed at alanwarwic?
DevonBloke
06-04-2015
Hahahahaha..... Yes I believe it was.
This is an hilarious thread.
I have an iPhone 6. It doesn't bend unless you are a really fat b****** and sit on it.... and then jump up and down.
I have mine in my pocket all the time. The kids regularly stand/sit/jump on it, I occasionally have it in my back pocket and accidentally sit on it getting in the car.
I took it cutting wood the other day in my work jeans back pocket, jumped in the Toyata Hilux with chainsaw and really sat on it hard (not intentionally you understand).
Did it bend? Of course it didn't. This is all a load of bollocks both for Apple and Samsung I suspect.
Dear oh dear, get a life people..
alanwarwic
06-04-2015
It still looks a false attempt to make out it is as bendy as that other one.
Remember that that CR Bend report, using I think, Apple own test equipment was there to tell us/market how super strong the phones actually were!

These are real easy bends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQsXJ5NtnA

So will the Edge bend the same, worse or what ?
All we currently have is a machine that was used to prove how strong the iPhone was supposed to be, now being reverse marketed to prove weakness in Samsung.

All a bit bonkers?
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