[DevonBloke]

All bonkers and all pointless since the vast majority of people don't exert that kind of force on their device.
I remember going into the Plymouth Apple store before I got my 6 to look at them and one of the guys came over as they do and started chatting.
I didn't even mention bendgate, he did, like he was on the defensive.
I kid you not, he picked up a 6+, held it up at eye level between fingers and thumb of both hands and flexed it really quite forcefully.
He seemed fine with it (it did really flex too but survived into it's original form) but I went... "er, yeah... ok mate... why don't you stop doing that now eh"??
It wasn't even my phone and I was panicked.... Hahahahaha

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

It still looks a false attempt to make out it is as bendy as that other one.
Remember that that CR Bend report, using I think, Apple own test equipment was there to tell us/market how super strong the phones actually were!

These are real easy bends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQsXJ5NtnA

So will the Edge bend the same, worse or what ?
All we currently have is a machine that was used to prove how strong the iPhone was supposed to be, now being reverse marketed to prove weakness in Samsung.

All a bit bonkers?

I knew there would be a conspiracy

No one has to try and remember the consumer report tests, it available for all to see.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

It still looks a false attempt to make out it is as bendy as that other one.
Remember that that CR Bend report, using I think, Apple own test equipment was there to tell us/market how super strong the phones actually were!

These are real easy bends.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaQsXJ5NtnA

So will the Edge bend the same, worse or what ?
All we currently have is a machine that was used to prove how strong the iPhone was supposed to be, now being reverse marketed to prove weakness in Samsung.

All a bit bonkers?

Oh look - its the viral videos that had nothing to do with any of this.

A false attempt you say? So what part of it is false? Is it a cover up? Is it a sinister conspiracy by Apple to tarnish the good name of its competitors?

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by d123

Wasn't that link aimed at alanwarwic?

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

Hahahahaha..... Yes I believe it was.

You, or I, might reasonably think that. But given the posting history, I'm don't think it was.

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This is an hilarious thread.
I have an iPhone 6. It doesn't bend unless you are a really fat b****** and sit on it.... and then jump up and down.
I have mine in my pocket all the time. The kids regularly stand/sit/jump on it, I occasionally have it in my back pocket and accidentally sit on it getting in the car.
I took it cutting wood the other day in my work jeans back pocket, jumped in the Toyata Hilux with chainsaw and really sat on it hard (not intentionally you understand).
Did it bend? Of course it didn't. This is all a load of bollocks both for Apple and Samsung I suspect.

Exactly this.

The subject isn't really bendy phones, its why common sense is so easily replaced by mass hysteria whenever Apple happen to be involved, as evidenced by the here by the different levels of reaction to apparently bendy iPhones, and apparently bendy S6s.

You may say all of that, but Stiggles has said that the phones get bent for no reason other than being kept in a pocket.

So its difficult to know which of you to believe.

[alanwarwic]

The false attempt is also much here.
Like said, It is the opposite of what the datas were used for in the first place, when like said, it was simply a showy display of how strong the iPhone was in 'big numbers'.

But hey, if it does turn out again that thousands of users find they quickly have a bent phone, it will be quite interesting to see if they get shouted at continually that the fault lies elsewhere to phone and maker.

[d123]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

The false attempt is also much here.
Like said, It is the opposite of what the datas were used for in the first place, when like said, it was simply a showy display of how strong the iPhone was in 'big numbers'.

But hey, if it does turn out again that thousands of users find they quickly have a bent phone, it will be quite interesting to see if they get shouted at continually that the fault lies elsewhere to phone and maker.

again? So when was the last time that 'thousands of users' quickly found they had a bent phone?

Not just your guess or supposition, but a verifiable account of the facts.

[alanwarwic]

Yet how come no one pointed out the other obvious here.

It did not bend, the Edge only cracked ! Spring back happened in that test, at a new high of 110lbs. The old Plus and 6 were 90lbs and 70lbs respectively.

Buy hey, in telling you that from the video it only cracked at 110 and did not bend appears to be trolling here. Reality is distorted yet again, but hey what do I or Dibert know.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Yet how come no one pointed out the other obvious here.

It did not bend, the Edge only cracked ! Spring back happened in that test, at a new high of 110lbs. The old Plus and 6 were 90lbs and 70lbs respectively.

Buy hey, in telling you that from the video it only cracked at 110 and did not bend appears to be trolling here. Reality is distorted yet again, but hey what do I or Dibert know.

The video doesn't mention 90 or 70lbs.

[d123]

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Originally Posted by kidspud

The video doesn't mention 90 or 70lbs.

It probably does in the alternate reality that alanwarwic lives in...

[alanwarwic]

Between those political lines it seems we agree that it did not bend at 110lbs

Cracking stuff.

[kidspud]

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Originally Posted by alanwarwic

Between those political lines it seems we agree that it did not bend at 110lbs

Cracking stuff.

The only video I've seen clearly states that it bent at 110lbs so I've not got a clue what you are talking about.

[DevonBloke]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

So its difficult to know which of you to believe.

All I can tell you is apart from having a clear plastic thin case to protect the body, my phone does sometimes get some rough treatment. Again mostly accidentally.
I don't want to get into an argument with Stiggles but there is just no way it's going to bend in a tight pocket. It would flex by several degrees until it was permanently bent and that would take some doing.

As I say I have sat on mine several times and I'm 6 foot 2 and 15 stone.
Was having a bit of a rough and tumble game with my 7 year old Son today and he fell on it hard and then kicked it before I thought it might be a good idea to take it out of my pocket and put it to one side!
Everyone loves to hate Apple.
Hell, I love to hate them sometimes!!!
Hahahahaha

Now some Apple fan somewhere is saying Samsungs bend, trying to get their own back. It's all rather silly really.
The bit about tests saying the S6 bends the same an in iPhone?? Well of course it does. It's roughly the same thickness and made of the same materials.
I'm willing to bet that you have to exert roughly the same force on both of them to bend them permanently.
And the S6 EDGE cracking rather than bending or flexing? This is simply down to physics.
I bet the EDGE is much stronger up to a point. Why? It has those curved edges made of glass.
That is going to introduce major structural integrity and make it much more ridged.
However if you do try to bend it, you will probably have to use way more force and rather than flex, the glass will simply crack (or probably explode : )
I Like the look of the EDGE. Pretty cool.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

Real people did have this happen, but you like to gloss over that fact. The same thing you do when apple have anything wrong or do anything wrong.

Just to pick up on this point briefly.

I never dispute that something has happened or gloss over it.

What I might do is question whether something is as serious as the widespread hysteria of the week might suggest. You know, which shade of grey it might be.

Whereas you always seem to reduce it to black or white - either something is happening or it isn't.

In this case the widespread hysteria on the internet seems like a wholly disproportionate reaction to a tiny proportion of actual real world cases.

I don't know why you are repeatedly seem to think that that is a somehow unreasonable view to take, or trot out your strawman about me denying something has happened at all, when I never have.

Devonbloke's firsthand account above suggests that despite your insistence to the contrary, they don't bend simply from being kept in a pocket. I would have thought that if they did, there would be a lot more bent phones out there and we'd still be hearing all about it.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by DevonBloke

All I can tell you is apart from having a clear plastic thin case to protect the body, my phone does sometimes get some rough treatment. Again mostly accidentally.
I don't want to get into an argument with Stiggles but there is just no way it's going to bend in a tight pocket. It would flex by several degrees until it was permanently bent and that would take some doing.

As I say I have sat on mine several times and I'm 6 foot 2 and 15 stone.
Was having a bit of a rough and tumble game with my 7 year old Son today and he fell on it hard and then kicked it before I thought it might be a good idea to take it out of my pocket and put it to one side!
Everyone loves to hate Apple.
Hell, I love to hate them sometimes!!!
Hahahahaha

Now some Apple fan somewhere is saying Samsungs bend, trying to get their own back. It's all rather silly really.
The bit about tests saying the S6 bends the same an in iPhone?? Well of course it does. It's roughly the same thickness and made of the same materials.
I'm willing to bet that you have to exert roughly the same force on both of them to bend them permanently.
And the S6 EDGE cracking rather than bending or flexing? This is simply down to physics.
I bet the EDGE is much stronger up to a point. Why? It has those curved edges made of glass.
That is going to introduce major structural integrity and make it much more ridged.
However if you do try to bend it, you will probably have to use way more force and rather than flex, the glass will simply crack (or probably explode : )
I Like the look of the EDGE. Pretty cool.

I don't know about anyone else, but that all sounds reasonable to me.

[alanwarwic]

"In this video, the Galaxy S6 edge was BROKEN under the pressure of 110lbf (50kgf"

"Our internal test results indicate that the Samsung Galaxy S6 and S6 edge are not bendable even under 79lbf (32kgf), which is equivalent to putting pressure to snap a bundle of five pencils at once."
http://global.samsungtomorrow.com/th...y-squaretrade/
"For this reason being, Samsung will officially deliver our statement to SquareTrade and ask them to conduct the stress test again which targets both front and back sides, and open the test result to the public."

Will the slightly dodgy insurers do it.? Who knows ?

And pebble in the water like, Samsung are implying that only the iPhone 6 rather easily bends at very near normal pocket force , if we use the iPhone 6 Consumer Report figure of 'bends at 70lb'.

"The normal force that generated when a person presses the back pocket is approximately 66lbf (30kgf)."

[calico_pie]

So just to summarise:

1. If an independent party demonstrates something negative about Apple, it is reliable.
2. If Apple demonstrates something positive Apple, it is unreliable.
3. If an independent party demonstrates something negative about Samsung, it is unreliable.
4.If Samsung demonstrates something positive about Samsung, it is reliable.

Got it!

[alanwarwic]

All sets of figures are reliable, even the above did not dispute that.

The case to argue is whether in fact 70lbs is 'Normal Use'.

[Inspiration]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

So just to summarise:

1. If an independent party demonstrates something negative about Apple, it is reliable.
2. If Apple demonstrates something positive Apple, it is unreliable.
3. If an independent party demonstrates something negative about Samsung, it is unreliable.
4.If Samsung demonstrates something positive about Samsung, it is reliable.

Got it!

Pretty much.

All phones bend with pressured, this is a fact. The amusing thing is Samsung themselves mocked Apple for their "issue" at the time.. so it's rather ironic that Samsung are now complaining that their own phone is getting the same treatment.

No worries. In the long run it's Samsung who will lose this particular war, not Apple.

[Faust]

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Originally Posted by calico_pie

I know a lot of people are interested in this after the iPhone made the headlines for being so bendy, and there was much discussion about it here.

Weirdly the equally bendy S6 hasn't been mentioned at all. Probably just an oversight by everyone with a general, and not brand specific, interest in bendy phones.

So this is for all those who like to discuss bendy phones.

Just like the adult version of 'the school playground'. Who really cares? If anyone is daft enough to abuse their phones, whatever the brand, they deserve all they get.

Whatever the manufacturers might tell you ignore it - at the end of the day it's a hand held computer and as such is relatively fragile. Treat it as such and you will get years of good service.

[aurichie]

I have to agree with the theme of the thread. But everyone knows Apple haters gonna hate. The competitors to Apple also get a free pass because consumers of these devices have much lower expectations.

[calico_pie]

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Originally Posted by Stiggles

A wager on what?

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Originally Posted by calicopie

A wager on whether or not bent S6s will go on to generate anything like as much hysteria as happened with the iPhone. I'm saying it won't. You seem to be saying you think it will.

From your lack, I'll take that as a no then. Funny, that.

I know discussions can be long, and people are doing other things, but it remains an unholy coincidence that your contributions usually cease at the point where the discussion has reached the point where your position is untenable, and you are in the position of having to put your money where your mouth is. And your parting shot is about intolerance to the discussion going round in circles, which misses the point completely.

At least, that's how it always appears.