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Old 13-05-2016, 08:11
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I have two female relatives who treated their husband/partner appallingly. Just like Mr T, they worshiped the ground these women walk on but they were treated like dirt and were hurt in the end. I wouldn't want that for the lovely Mr T!
I do like Mr T and he has lovely qualities, however, there are occasions when I find him immature and irritating. I could not live with him, that's for sure!!

If he grew up a bit he'd be perfect. I think he is the end game for Mo, that's the way it seems to be going. But she needs to take a sensitivity course in the meantime

It has always amazed me how some perfectly lovely men end up with complete wagons who treat them appallingly and yet they still adore them. I had an aunt and uncle like this. He was so sweet and she walked all over him.

A pregnancy for Mo would be the catalyst for them getting their acts together, I think.
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Old 13-05-2016, 11:12
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Whilst I love Mr T, I did agree with Clover's review, actually, the sense that I also found him to be slightly irritating for the first time ever on Tuesday night. Not at the start when he and Mo got together, or in the end when Mo had broken his heart (I loved him more than ever then!) but in the middle when he was totally OTT calling Mo 'his woman' etc and getting overly possessive and miles ahead of himself. It was actually pretty out of character as well, as normally he is quite shy about affairs of the heart and not the overly amorous type.

I know that Mo hasn't treated him very well in the past, but that would have scared a lot of people off, to be fair.

Like Collins, I do think that they are intended to be end game and a very obvious unplanned pregnancy storyline will ultimately pull them together. Although, perhaps the will they/won't they will continue until the baby is born, or perhaps even until he or she is a few months old.

Still wouldn't be surprised if he became a regular after the trip abroad. The womb transplant device will allow him to be on Darwin more often and if Mo were pregnant with his child and/or his partner. that would be another reason for him to regularly be on screen.

Mr T aside, has anyone else noticed how we have had an awful lot of pregnancy related storylines on the main wards over the past few months? There seems to be one virtually every other week!! Mr T hasn't even been there for a lot of them!
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Old 13-05-2016, 11:23
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Whilst I love Mr T, I did agree with Clover's review, actually, the sense that I also found him to be slightly irritating for the first time ever on Tuesday night. Not at the start when he and Mo got together, or in the end when Mo had broken his heart (I loved him more than ever then!) but in the middle when he was totally OTT calling Mo 'his woman' etc and getting overly possessive and miles ahead of himself. It was actually pretty out of character as well, as normally he is quite shy about affairs of the heart and not the overly amorous type.

I know that Mo hasn't treated him very well in the past, but that would have scared a lot of people off, to be fair.

Like Collins, I do think that they are intended to be end game and a very obvious unplanned pregnancy storyline will ultimately pull them together. Although, perhaps the will they/won't they will continue until the baby is born, or perhaps even until he or she is a few months old.

Still wouldn't be surprised if he became a regular after the trip abroad. The womb transplant device will allow him to be on Darwin more often and if Mo were pregnant with his child and/or his partner. that would be another reason for him to regularly be on screen.

Mr T aside, has anyone else noticed how we have had an awful lot of pregnancy related storylines on the main wards over the past few months? There seems to be one virtually every other week!! Mr T hasn't even been there for a lot of them!
Agreed. Him calling Mo his "WomMan" on a number of occasions was just embarrassing and dare I say it, a bit racially insensitive. That's the kind of behaviour of his that annoys me. There is no harm in it more like naiveity on his part.

I do think this is working towards him being permanent on his return, it certainly looks that way to me.
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Old 13-05-2016, 14:57
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Agreed. Him calling Mo his "WomMan" on a number of occasions was just embarrassing and dare I say it, a bit racially insensitive. That's the kind of behaviour of his that annoys me. There is no harm in it more like naiveity on his part.

I do think this is working towards him being permanent on his return, it certainly looks that way to me.
I actually have visions of them putting him in some management type role in future. Possibly even deputy CEO if Serena ever leaves. I think that Henrick and Derwood could make a great double act!
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Old 14-05-2016, 19:30
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Old 15-05-2016, 13:59
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Old 15-05-2016, 15:15
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That's lovely, good luck to them
Agreed.
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Old 15-05-2016, 17:01
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I know! Their friendship is so real, so genuine. This is going to really devastate Dom.
Two characters who used to irritate me when they first appeared and now I really like , just goes to show both are good actors . And the Digby storyline and the hug brought a tear to my hardened eye , excellent story but sad they are or appear to be killing off Arthur.
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Old 15-05-2016, 19:14
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This is an old thing but i think it is interesting. Just started watching an episode from Season 8 called Leap in the Dark, a few months after elliot's arrival. He and Connie are discussing the eligibility of a Patient to be included in the European Trial for Herzig and Elliot specifically says that she is not suitable to be included on Connie's trial. Now that's interesting isn't it, it was Connie's project and already at European Research stage in early 2006? What happened to it having been invented by elliot and the gross moral outrage at the Trust, with Jac as its figurehead, having stolen Elliot's life work and intellectual property?

The impression given s that it was a joint research project across several Trusts and Connie and Elliot were just part of it.

Now, that isn't to say that he didn't get very involved after Gina's death (what we are always told, he invented it as a way of coping with Gina's death) and make more advances than anybody else but that is hardly the same thing as being the sole inventor so that it was theft for him to be taken off it and Adele needed to draw up specific contracts to stop the Trust stealing his work again as happened last year.
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Old 15-05-2016, 20:19
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This is an old thing but i think it is interesting. Just started watching an episode from Season 8 called Leap in the Dark, a few months after elliot's arrival. He and Connie are discussing the eligibility of a Patient to be included in the European Trial for Herzig and Elliot specifically says that she is not suitable to be included on Connie's trial. Now that's interesting isn't it, it was Connie's project and already at European Research stage in early 2006? What happened to it having been invented by elliot and the gross moral outrage at the Trust, with Jac as its figurehead, having stolen Elliot's life work and intellectual property?

The impression given s that it was a joint research project across several Trusts and Connie and Elliot were just part of it.

Now, that isn't to say that he didn't get very involved after Gina's death (what we are always told, he invented it as a way of coping with Gina's death) and make more advances than anybody else but that is hardly the same thing as being the sole inventor so that it was theft for him to be taken off it and Adele needed to draw up specific contracts to stop the Trust stealing his work again as happened last year.
was that online somewhere
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Old 15-05-2016, 20:28
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was that online somewhere
Oh no, I recorded them when they were repeated on Sony some years ago.

I think a lot of it can be found on You Tube though.
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Old 17-05-2016, 22:02
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Nobody watching tonight?? It wasn't the greatest episode, in fairness.

Where was Morven??? Surely she should have been there to support Digby in telling his parents the news. But any excuse to see Dom and Diggers together works for me. He has a strange relationship with his parents, explains a lot of his quirks.

They are making no bones about it now - he will die

The rest of it was a bit bleh.
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Old 17-05-2016, 22:10
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Nobody watching tonight?? It wasn't the greatest episode, in fairness.

Where was Morven??? Surely she should have been there to support Digby in telling his parents the news. But any excuse to see Dom and Diggers together works for me. He has a strange relationship with his parents, explains a lot of his quirks.

They are making no bones about it now - he will die

The rest of it was a bit bleh.
I was half watching, what was all that with Serena and Bernie
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Old 17-05-2016, 22:39
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I was half watching, what was all that with Serena and Bernie
Bernie was sent to AAU to keep an eye on Serena. Serena got miffed and quit. Then she realised Bernie has her back and unquit. Now they are running AAU together.

Is it just me or is there sexual tension between them?
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Old 18-05-2016, 08:27
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Nobody watching tonight?? It wasn't the greatest episode, in fairness.

Where was Morven??? Surely she should have been there to support Digby in telling his parents the news. But any excuse to see Dom and Diggers together works for me. He has a strange relationship with his parents, explains a lot of his quirks.
I was about to say exactly that

I like that Dom was there but I completely agree that Morven should have been there. Although thinking about it has she met Arthur's parents yet? That could have been a strange first meeting, "Mum, Dad this is Morven my wife, also I have cancer and I'm dieing."
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Old 18-05-2016, 08:53
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I was about to say exactly that

I like that Dom was there, but I completely agree that Morven should have been there. Although thinking about it has she met Arthur's parents yet? That could have been a strange first meeting, "Mum, Dad this is Morven my wife, also I have cancer and I'm dieing."
I agree with both of you. It was completely odd. Although, rather in keeping with the fact that almost every viewer is far more concerned with Dom and Digby's relationship at the moment rather than Morven and Digby's!

Incidentally, why was there absolutely no mention of Digby's parents at the wedding? They don't live that far away and there are no issues that we are aware of. Surely they would have been invited.

I was only able to half watch it last night, but in the parts I did see I actually really felt for both Ollie and Zosia. I think that he was genuinely trying to do the right thing and yet I could understand her feeling so betrayed. Self made me so angry!!!

So Bernie will obviously be on AAU now. Funny how when she first arrived I was sure that she would be a love interest for Ric. I really thought that was the way they were going with the immediate tension between them!!
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Old 18-05-2016, 09:52
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I was about to say exactly that

I like that Dom was there but I completely agree that Morven should have been there. Although thinking about it has she met Arthur's parents yet? That could have been a strange first meeting, "Mum, Dad this is Morven my wife, also I have cancer and I'm dieing."
Morven's unexplained absence was really odd - to the point I actually wondered if the whole wedding thing had been some sort of dream / fantasy sequence. It was more odd too as it was implied the night before had been a roomies night ... So where was Morven then? Have they not moved in together yet? Even if she was staying with her dad for a few days a line to explain it would have been good.
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Old 18-05-2016, 10:43
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Morven's unexplained absence was really odd - to the point I actually wondered if the whole wedding thing had been some sort of dream / fantasy sequence. It was more odd too as it was implied the night before had been a roomies night ... So where was Morven then? Have they not moved in together yet? Even if she was staying with her dad for a few days a line to explain it would have been good.
Good point. Are the trio still living together, with Morven now living there too? Or has Digby moved in with Morven (and Cara.) I would have expected that Digby and Morven now live together, but you wouldn't think so from the way it has been portrayed on screen.

Morven and Cara moved in together about two months ago and I'm not really sure what the point of that was, as it's never been mentioned since.

As I mentioned last week, Digby's Anxiety disorder (from only six months ago) seems to have been forgotten and has not been mentioned since his cancer diagnosis. No mention as to how the diagnosis has affected his anxiety problems, whether he's still on medication etc etc.
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Old 18-05-2016, 10:59
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Morven and Cara moved in together about two months ago and I'm not really sure what the point of that was, as it's never been mentioned since.
I'm guessing that will all come out again when Arthur dies, Cara will end up being her support.
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Old 18-05-2016, 11:18
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Guy Self has what he wanted now

Dominic and Arthur's friendship is one in a million.
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Old 18-05-2016, 11:45
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Self centered does not want Zosia relying on anybody but him. He could see it heading that way with Ollie. It will eventually come out what Self did. But what Self centered failed to realize that Ollie is good for Zosia as she is for Ollie. So in the end he has not done Zosia any good maybe just the opposite.

Love Digby and Doms relationship, the way Doms teases Digby and make him smile. He is just what Digby needs. Dom has always been a support to Digby through his illness. Where as Zosia has run away from it. She gives Ollie or work as a excuse, but now she has dumped Ollie, thanks to her Dads messing. She can no longer give him as a excuse. She will perhaps spend some some time with Digby. Although to be honest I prefer his realtionship with Dom
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Old 18-05-2016, 15:01
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I was only able to half watch it last night, but in the parts I did see I actually really felt for both Ollie and Zosia. I think that he was genuinely trying to do the right thing and yet I could understand her feeling so betrayed. Self made me so angry!!!

So Bernie will obviously be on AAU now. Funny how when she first arrived I was sure that she would be a love interest for Ric. I really thought that was the way they were going with the immediate tension between them!!
Selfie manipulated that situation quite blatantly, but I was disappointed that Ollie let it happen so easily. Maybe it's just that he still hasn't learned what a snake Selfie can be.

When Bernie first arrived I thought there might be some future thing between her and Hanssen - we were both wrong! I wonder whether the relationship with Serena will become romantic? That could be interesting, but I think equally interesting would be to portray the kind of supportive friendship that women in a workplace often have, as against the usual cliche of competitive bitchiness (yes, Connie Beauchamp, I am looking at you).

Episode review here
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Old 18-05-2016, 15:26
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The thing i've always liked about Serena is how supportive she is to other women.

Most other powerful or successful women in shows (and often real life) talk the talk re there needing to be more women at the top but when push comes to shove, they only look out for themselves - almost as if they believe that the men will only allow one woman at the top and they are going to damned well make sure it is them. As somebody once said about thatcher, she climbed up the the top, forging a way for women but then pulled the ladder up after her!

But Serena, has always seemed to positively act on behalf of all women, such as telling Morven about how she'll have to fight harder because whatever Trusts claim, it is not an even playing field for men and women. Even her brief exchanges with Jac have had a "i've got your back, we're stronger together" vibe to them unlike somebody like Connie who only saw fit to 'sanction' Jac once she was leaving so they wouldn't be in direct competition should Jac rise up through the ranks.

So, I can see a strong relationship between Serena and Bernie and I guess it is possible they could go down the path or Serena developing feelings (could that have been why she seemed uncomfortable when she discovered Bernie was bi-sexual?) I think i'd rather it just remained as a strong and supportive friendship.

I haven't seen most of yesterday's yet - will catch up at the weekend most likely.
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Old 18-05-2016, 16:13
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The thing i've always liked about Serena is how supportive she is to other women.

Most other powerful or successful women in shows (and often real life) talk the talk re there needing to be more women at the top but when push comes to shove, they only look out for themselves - almost as if they believe that the men will only allow one woman at the top and they are going to damned well make sure it is them. As somebody once said about thatcher, she climbed up the the top, forging a way for women but then pulled the ladder up after her!

But Serena, has always seemed to positively act on behalf of all women, such as telling Morven about how she'll have to fight harder because whatever Trusts claim, it is not an even playing field for men and women. Even her brief exchanges with Jac have had a "i've got your back, we're stronger together" vibe to them unlike somebody like Connie who only saw fit to 'sanction' Jac once she was leaving so they wouldn't be in direct competition should Jac rise up through the ranks.

So, I can see a strong relationship between Serena and Bernie and I guess it is possible they could go down the path or Serena developing feelings (could that have been why she seemed uncomfortable when she discovered Bernie was bi-sexual?) I think i'd rather it just remained as a strong and supportive friendship.

I haven't seen most of yesterday's yet - will catch up at the weekend most likely.
I thought that was because Bernie had lied.
I think I will always think of Bernie as the Brigadier's daughter in Dr Who.
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Old 18-05-2016, 17:10
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I thought that was because Bernie had lied.
I think I will always think of Bernie as the Brigadier's daughter in Dr Who.
Yes, I think that was the reason too. She felt betrayed (and foolish) that she had been open and honest about her marriage breakdown (including having been cheated on) and that Bernie had kept such a huge thing back. Not that she'd slept with a woman, but that she had cheated at all and was therefore responsible for the marriage breakdown and not told her that.

I'm just saying that if they did go down the Serena has been attracted to women but not acted on it route, they could retrospectively say that was the (or one of the) reason(s) she was so off with her - that she did/does find her attractive but would never admit it but discovering she is gay has changed matters.
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