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Bonnie thought that because she was Jonny's partner she could say what she liked about the pregnancy, with no regard of Jac's right to privacy. And yes, it was inappropriate and unprofessional, as was Jasmine discussing Mo tonight.
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I don't know. She did the correct thing. It is what Jasmine should have done when she started working there,
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Here was me thinking that as a senior consultant surgeon Jac was supposed to mentor and teach, not belittle and punish junior doctors who are learning at the beginning of their careers.
Lest anyone be in any doubt, tonight Jac has just affirmed my opinion of her as thoroughly unprofessional and unfit to hold the status that she does. As stated a couple of weeks ago, there Are dozens, if not hundreds of teaching hospitals, Jasmine did not have to request the one she knew her estranged sister worked at. I do think Jac could and should have handled this better - she should have gone to Hansenn as soon as she knew who Jas was to explain the difficulties and request she be placed on another ward (she is only a F1 - she doesn*lt have to have CT as a rotation) or at least say she shouldn't be directly involved in her mentoring. It's not Jasmine's fault that Paula did what she did, and Jac is being unfair if she blames her for it. But, it would be hard not to resent the sister that had the life you should have had. Paula never worked 3 jobs to look after Jac did she. She just dumped her and then used her for a kidney and 20k. |
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But Jac threatened Jasmine and told that if anyone found out she would get her sacked.
And when it did come out, Jac didn"t get her sacked did she. Didn't even try. Jasmine shouldn't have declared the relationship when she first started, especially as Jac was away as that would have been disclosing personal information about Jac without her consent. Jac then made it clear she didn't want people to know. Oliver then found out due to Jasmine losing her temper so Jac took back control the only way she knew how. It is an impossible situation, I don't thin either have behaved badly in the circumstances. Bitchface Paula is to blame for this. |
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Well Bonnie was "only" a nurse and she discussed Jac's pregnancy with anyone who would listen! Plus she told at least one patient about Emma's CDH. She was a nightmare.
I think Jac did the right thing in transferring Jasmine to Keller. It was clear they could not stay together on Darwin. Jasmine was a teensy bit arrogant in not looking for help when she needed it and the patient could have died as a result. Yes, Jac could have taken the PC route instead of how she did it but the result is the same and is the right one I think. I know it's mean but I am getting some satisfaction from Mo now being in the same position Jac was with Jonny/Bonnie. Back then she had no sympathy for Jac and gleefully told Bonnie that Jonny was happier with her than he had ever been with Jac. That must be why he snogged Jac on his wedding day. We all know Mo and Mr T are going to end up together, anyway. Inga just better steer clear of trucks on her wedding day ![]() Sad to see the end of the three Amigos. Guess that's the last we'll hear of Arthur and their friendship ![]() Life moves on as they say. Mo was quite suPpprtive of Jac at points in the pregnancy - when she first found out she was she didn't tell Jonny and when CDH was diagnosed. I give her credit for that. But she was was rubbish over the Bonnie and custody battle situations. Nobody helped Jac during that time. Nobody. Instead, people ran round after Jonny and Bonnie. So, it is quite satisfying to see Mo be in that situation. But it is nowhere near as bad as Mo's baby is healthy and she does have sisters (cousins), a Mum (Ina didn't die did she) and friends so much better support network than Jac has ever had. Also, i understand Jac gives her advice re the Derwood/Inga situation next week. Maybe going from her memories of. Bonnie. |
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I thought the chemistry between her and Serena was fab tonight.
I felt really sorry for her last night. |
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Got back into Holby again. I've been dipping in and out for several years now. Loving Serena and Bernie. I don't think I've seen Serena be this into anybody before, man or woman. I do hope she returns and they get together. It's good seeing older same sex couples on screen.
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I'm in the minority but am still not into the whole Serena and Bernie thing.
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Regarding Jac and Jasmine, I do think that Jasmine should have disclosed everything when she went to work at Holby, and it was wrong of her not to do so. However, I think that Jac has behaved very badly in this situation.
Firstly, she should have gone straight to Hansenn when the issue became apparent. Secondly, she should not have humiliated Jasmine in the way she did last week, announcing their relationship publicly to all of Darwin, without, at least, discussing it with Jasmine and probably Hannsen first. I thought the way she behaved last night was terrible. She should have been straightforward about wanting Jasmine moved to Keller. There was a perfectly legitimate reason why that would be a good idea, given their relationship, and Hannsen would probably have agreed. There was no need to belittle Jasmine because she could not handle her being around, but was too arrogant to admit it. I felt, in particular, the scene where Jac was goading Jasmine about her inability to fit the device, smacked of bullying. Jasmine is an upbeat and seemingly confident character, but if she were a very nervous character with a low self esteem, I would have found that scene pretty painful to watch. Yes Jasmine made a mistake, but she is a young doctor, supposedly under the supervision of several superiors, and she was put in an extremely difficult position. Rather than helping her, Jac was making little of her, which was particularly unpleasant. Personally I hate to see bullying of any kind by superiors in a work situation. So whilst I understand the circumstances would be difficult for anyone concerned, I think there is no doubt that in her position Jac should have behaved much better. I do think that both actresses are doing a fantastic job with the Jac and Jasmine dynamic , so far, though and despite the differences in character I can believe them as sisters! I am also enjoying the Mo and Mr T storyline. However, one thing I did think was pretty daft and stretching credibility, was Mr T scanning the baby and not realising how many weeks pregnant Mo was. It is well known that obstetricians easily date a pregnancy from the baby's measurements. Also, Mo told him that she was 18 weeks pregnant, when we know she is really 20 weeks. However she also told him the pregnancy was dated as 18 weeks from her IUI, which most people would know would actually make her 20 weeks pregnant given the fact that dates are taken from two weeks before conception! This is Mr T's field of expertise, so there is no way he wouldn't have worked it out by that, even if he had somehow unbelievably missed the scan measurements. I am finding the premise that he does not know he is the father to be slightly unbelievable to say the least. It might be a tad more realistic if he were not in his profession though! |
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Little Star I agree with you about Mr T not realising how pregnant Mo is being unlikely given his profession!
The other thing that struck me was how chirpy Essie is given she has just broken up with the man she loves and her hopes of being a mother have suffered a deep blow. She seems more concerned about Dom's love life than anything else!! |
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I think Mr T doesn't want to know that he's the father of Mo's baby, despite him asking. Given his relationship with Inga (which I really hope doesn't last very long, because I find her decidedly creepy) I think he was quite happy to allow himself to be misled.
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Was also surprised Mr T couldn't work it out from the scan measurements. My take is deep down he probably does know or suspect but he doesn't want to believe Mo could lie to him about something so important and so is willing to believe her at the moment and he's in a nice rosy Inga bubble and he doesn't want to mess with that. You would think he would quietly recheck the scan notes though.
Also surprised by Essies cheeriness to the point where I wondered if I'd missed Essie and Sasha getting back together ... They went out recently I think? |
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Yes Essie and Sacha went for a drink but just as friends I thought? It's confusing I agree!!
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Little Star I agree with you about Mr T not realising how pregnant Mo is being unlikely given his profession!
The other thing that struck me was how chirpy Essie is given she has just broken up with the man she loves and her hopes of being a mother have suffered a deep blow. She seems more concerned about Dom's love life than anything else!! What was particularly odd about this was the fact that Essie and Dom were specifically discussing Sasha and she was so chirpie! If I hadn't seen it for a few weeks I would have presumed they were still together! |
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When Sacha and Essie went out last week, I just kind of assumed that meant the characters were getting back together again. There was a look on Essie's face that made me think that. Either that, or it's possible Essie hasn't really accepted the breakup in her mind yet, I suppose.
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I think deep down Mr T knows the baby is his. I wish Mo would just blurt out how she feels, its obvs Mr T loves her really! Loved his sister too.
Isaac and Dom were also enjoyable. Marc Elliott is gorgeous. |
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I liked Mr T's sister too. I have a feeling we will see a lot more of her as this storyline progresses.
Did they say what profession she was in? Could she possibly be a future Holby medic? I say this given the large proportion of staff relatives who we firstly see as patients, but later as members of staff. Speaking of which, I really thought that the Welsh girl on AAU last year with the violent partner who fell in love with Raf, would return as a main character, when they had gone to the trouble of telling us she was a trainee Doctor and she was recurring for months, but no sign of her since! |
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I'm in the minority but am still not into the whole Serena and Bernie thing.
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Why are there so many staff relatives as patients? I enjoy Holby, starting watching again about a year ago, hope it doesn't lose its way, a few tired storylines already.
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I get this feeling that with both Isaac and Jasmine about Dom is about to become an absolute git again.
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Not being funny but what has Jasmine done which is so dreadful to Zosia? Oliver was single, single because Zosia had ended their relationship. Since when is dating a single colleague such an heinous crime? Is ever woman on the planet supposed to steer clear of Oliver just in case Zosia decided that she wanted him back? For how long - it had already been a couple of months, was Ollie supposed to stay single for years?
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Oh bad luck Dom, Jasmine hops in to save the day!
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Well, the overall feelings was of an episode where nearly everyone behaved very badly and only some of them were redeemed at the end. Isaac was by turns petulant and controlling. Dominic showed his basic immaturity by making things worse for Isaac because he thinks "helping" means lying to everyone. Jasmine behaves like the school snitch and expects to be thanked. (But Dominic's initial reaction to her was absurd: I don't think Zosia even has a problem with her.) Fletch acts like a tosspot as usual and I'm left wondering what it takes to kill him. Plus side, Jasmine was pretty good with the patient in theatre and will probably fit in well on Keller. And I've kind of put logic aside and learned to enjoy the AAU team adopting Fletch's kids and letting them hang out whenever they want to. But when even Henrik's a bit annoying, you know something's wrong.
Mo and Inga. Inga definitely crossed some lines but so did Mo. I've heard Inga compared to Bonnie and I think the comparison is apt in more ways than one. Because yes, she is obviously just a plot device to keep Mo and Derwood apart. But people came up with elaborate theories as to how Bonnie was a secret child abuser and in the end, while I'm sure people could give me lots of valid reasons for hating her, all the characters except Jac and possibly Mo carried on liking her to the end. So while I'm expecting Inga to be the loser and, broadly speaking, the antagonist, I'm not convinced she's going to turn out to be "bad". Still, Mo and Jac's cheese and wine society was one of the highlights of the episode. Ironic that after a bunch of episodes showing her at her most unpleasant, when she hasn't got Jasmine to take her issues out on Jac ends up the most affable she's been in months. If not years. |
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Not being funny but what has Jasmine done which is so dreadful to Zosia? Oliver was single, single because Zosia had ended their relationship. Since when is dating a single colleague such an heinous crime? Is ever woman on the planet supposed to steer clear of Oliver just in case Zosia decided that she wanted him back? For how long - it had already been a couple of months, was Ollie supposed to stay single for years?
Really enjoyed the Mo and Jac scenes. Jac seemed to let her guard down a bit which was a good change. Interesting to hear about her very 'Jac like' parenting arrangement with Jonny too. Are we meant to think that Mo and Jonny have had some type of fallout then? |
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Loved the Jac/Mo scenes at the end as well. Glad to hear that Jac and Jonny are co-parenting Emma (in their own way!) and are getting on as well as they can in the circumstances. I would love Mo and Jac to be friendly and supportive of each other like this on a more regular basis.
Inga crossed the line throwing the wee at Mo but Mo was no angel either. My fears about Issac are coming true - he is selfish, petulant and manipulative. But oh my, he is lovely to look at!! The guy who annoyed Fletch was on a Strictly charity show and danced with the lovely Natalie. I think they won it too - he did an amazing Paso Doble. Now branching into acting - talented guy!! |
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