Presumably. They said someone in the ED was taking care of the horse.

....and I thought today's episode was weak after a run of excellent stories.

Think so since he never actually does his job.

Not the only casualty reference tonight as Jasmine mentioned seeing Caleb Knight (Cal) when she went to ED

Matteo: On first impressions, I actually really like him. I wouldn't want him to be like that every week but he managed to beat Jac at her own game and tell Oliver off for being a d*ck without any comeback. I'm not sure if we were meant to take his claim to be a psychopath seriously: Probably not, since I doubt a psychopath would have been affectionate towards the horse at the end. And I doubt he blabbed to the patient about Zosia, given the sort of person she was she probably researched all the staff. I notice he was credited as a regular despite being a locum and I'm interested to see him develop. Rather liked the reference to Noel.

I see people on here talking about how much they love Dominic and how he's their favourite but I've never really warmed to him and this episode reminded me that he's actually a colossal tw*t. He should have been sacked for more than one reason here but instead he gets no repercussions whatsoever. Not sure about Isaac hiding the medal though or Jac's assessment of the situation, it seemed a bit manipulative. But frankly I'd rather have seen Jasmine with Cal in the ED, especially when he was ogling a photo of her this week...

Bernie seems to be treating Cameron as a petulant child rather than a colleague, which she really needs to deal with. It's a good job Serena listened to him. Good dialogue in several places, with Serena's comment on the F1s, "Pay's better abroad", being the stand-out.

Me too.

Not sure about the new guy and Issac continues to grate. Nice to see Arthur still being mentioned though.

Bernice annoyed me with her attitude to Cameron, not very supportive or professional.

I think Bernie just needs to get into the habit of treating Cameron like any other F1 instead of her son. It felt like the insistence on him not calling her Mum was perhaps more to help her remember to be professional with him than the other way round.

I didn't notice any charm. I found him, Bernie and Isaac irritating, boring and unfeeling..
I really felt for Dom in the situation of thinking he had lost Arthur's medal; he was not a drama queen in that.
Highlight: Morven being advised to apply for the higher job by Ric.

I am totally confused by the horse ... so was it new guys horse and if so how come patient woman was on it and if not, where was he taking the horse?

I've been fairly opened minded about Issac but tonight I thought he was really nasty to Dom. A lot of his comments were real put downs, designed to make someone feel bad about themselves and very hurtful. He seems to get a kick out of it too but knows when to pull back.

The Jas/ Cal comments across Holby and Casualty are interesting. Have they ever had an off screen romance between characters from both shows? .. They are a good match and it could be fun with occasional cross over appearances ....

It was the patients horse. She fell off him, Matteo happened to see it, checked her over and decided to bring her in on the horse. What he is going to do with him now, God knows. Take him back to the Stable if the lady has told him where it is I guess.

There was a cross show romance in about 2003. A really lovely male, gay midwife called Ben (I think) who was killed in a car crash went out with somebody on Casualty but I'm unsure who as I wasn't wathing at the time. I think he might have been played by Lee Warburton but probably wrong.

Don't really have an opinion on Matteo yet. Fairly standard intro episode for a handsome, arrogant, enigmatic Doctor that can be considered a challenge and potential love interest for reigning ice queen. Have you see how it develops.

He's okay but didn't really detect any discernable chemistry unlike Joseph, Oliver and Jonny in their first episodes with Jac. The spoilers for next week might be putting me off the idea of a romance as well. And, on principle, I dislike anybody that comes in and 'betters' her.

Dominic can be a pain and inanimate objects might be crutches which we would do better without but it isn't anybody else's place to deprive those of us that find comfort in them, of them. Isaacs is controlling and possibly cruel.

Have to say that Rics attitude about being the nice guy to Jac was rich given that he has gonw on the offensive, defensive about every person, medical or admin, that encroached on his turf for the past 10 years.

Starts with nick jordan, then Dan Clifford, Spence, Hansenn, Serena, Connie, Bernie plus juniors like Malick.

There must be a slow burn emotional abuse storyline going on with Dominic / Isaac.

Yes, that's right. The character was called Tony Vincent and he was an HCA whose brother was the receptionist.

I was thinking that last night which would be a shame as I was rooting for Dom and Issac to begin with, it would have been nice to see Dom in a real relationship, maybe to mature a bit.

Yes, I have thought that that was where they were going with this from fairly early on. They've been quite subtle about it too, to the extent that I've wondered at times whether I'd gotten it wrong.

I think that is deliberate. They want the viewer to feel as conflicted about Isaac's actions as Dom is at the outset. Hence the scene with Jac, which almost made you wonder whether Isaac WAS hiding the medal in Dom's best interests. I don't think so, though. It was clearly a control thing. Perhaps it irked him that a reminder of Digby empowered Dom so much, and he wanted that control for himself.

It could come to a head at Christmas. Or perhaps it's going to be a real long runner.

I totally agree with your assessment of Issac LS. I thought he took the medal from the moment Dom said it was missing. I am not sure whether he wanted to upset Dom as he was jealous of Arthur's medal meaning so much to him or whether he wanted the "good luck " element for himself but I am 100% sure he did not have Dom's best interests at heart. He is a nasty man.

I just really started watching this last week after the Dom/Isaac relationship caught my attention. I haven't ever really watched Holby City but I left the TV on after EE last week and it just leaped out at me as a potentially interesting relationship. I agree with those on here who are saying that it looks like the early stages of an emotionally abusive relationship. I even thought it last week when Isaac didn't give Dom the job even though he acknowledged he was the best person for it, because he wanted to have a relationship with him. That didn't sit right with me, and last night the thing with the medal made me even more suspicious (though when Dom had the conversation with Jac on the bench, I wondered if maybe I'd judged it wrong.)

It is being very subtly done, so maybe it's not the direction they're going in.

Does anyone mind telling me who Arthur was? I assume he's dead, but who was he to Dom?

A few weeks ago there was a scene where Isaac stopped Dom going out for a drink with Essie and Jasmine and that's when alarm bells started ringing in my head. I've never trusted him, he's very passive aggressive.

Arthur was Dom's roommate along with Zosia and best friend. They started off as rivals when Dom first joined the show but their relationship developed really beautifully and they ended up the best of friends. Arthur was diagnosed with cancer earlier in the year and died in June.

Ah, thank you, I wasn't sure if he was a lover, a friend or a relative of some kind, so that's really helpful. I can now see why Dom was so upset about that guy lying to his friend about having cancer, as it must have hit a little too close to home. He does come across as pretty unprofessional some of the time but I do like him from what I've seen. And it will be interesting to see Marc Elliot playing a darker role if that's the direction they're going in.

That's two very poor episodes in a row, what used to be must see is becoming a chore yet again, I watch both Code Black and Chicago Med and I'm staggered that I find even a pretty bad episode of either is still ten times better than the last two Holby's and this entire season of Casualty so far.

Maybe it's just me but I find the pace of the Holby twins so pedestrian now.

As my comments about this episode got buried on a previous page, I hope you'll all forgive me for repeating one thing: I found it highly ironic that Bernie told Cam -- in front of Serena -- he can't be drinking every night. I'm wondering if this might be building up to something with Serena or if the writers simply don't see her alcohol consumption as a cause for concern. It would certainly be at test of Bernie and Serena's relationship if not only do they have to cope with building a relationship that neither of them is particularly comfortable with being open about, but if Serena also has to face alcoholism at the same time.

I know it's just a TV programme but in the real world would the behaviour of Jac Naylor be tolerated in any NHS hospital?

Tbf, I doubt that many of the behaviours by many characters in this show will be tolerated in any NHS hospital. Then againin the real world we've also read reports of bad behavioural practices being tolerated in some shape, way and form by some NHS hospitals/managements. So in answer to your question *shrugs shoulders* probably yes, probably no. I would imagine that tolerance (or lack thereof) is dependent on whether the staff felt they would be supported if/when they raised the issue with their superviors.

In Jac's defense, she has always been professional when it comes to her patients, I think. I believe it is the one area that is very hard to fault her own. Her social interpersonal skills when it comes to her colleagues is a whole other something else, mind. As far as I can remember, she will always have a problem with a colleague if their clinical skills and behaviour falls below professional standards. Issues related to one's personal lives or romantic dramas is really not her thing, and (again in her defense) she has been very open about that. Yesterday's episode was a case in point.

For me the whole Johnny/Jasmine affairs are both exceptional because they involve two worlds clashing together in her orbit: the private/personal and the public/professional. She doesn't handle those moments very well because in her ideal world she not only perceives them to be and treats them as two separate entities but percieves and treats them with equal uncompromising passion. Times like those are very difficult for her to manage with wisdom, patience, kindness because of what has happened to her in the past, particularly her childhood past.

But none of this means she isn't without compassion, understanding, empathy and sympathy for her colleagues. She is able put aside her high expectations when the situation calls for it. Even as a viewer there are times when I find myself cringing at some of her behaviour, and there are times when I find myself in full support of it: her colleagues can at times behave like they are in a primary school playground.

I liked Cameron and Matteo. I do like Dom but he can act like a kid sometimes. I think Isaac may ground him if they continue as an item. Isaac is so gorgeous.

They're not killing off Jac are they? 😨😨