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Haha! Yeh! Raf also got over his mother's death quickly, didn't he! Is it just me or did Raf never talk about reconstructive surgery before Harry needed it?!!!!
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Raf had talked about reconstructive surgery before though not much. It cam up during Spence's brief return stint.
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Haha! Yeh! Raf also got over his mother's death quickly, didn't he! Is it just me or did Raf never talk about reconstructive surgery before Harry needed it?!!!!
Yes, you're absolutely right re Raf's mother. I mentioned that last week too. It is a big miss that that has not been referenced even once and that Raf has never been in more jovial form as the past two weeks! |
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Hopefully with Raf they may come back to his not having grieved properly for his Mother at a later date. He is abnormally okay, especially as it was a sudden death. At least if somebody has been sick for some time you've had time to prepare mentally or can even comfort yourself that their suffering has ended. I imaine that is how Serena felt with Adrienne.
Raf however, no pre warning, as far as we know she was a fit woman, not in pain and they had a good relationship. So his not only not reacting but being happier than we've probably ever seen him iss bizarre in the extreme. Either they are saying his profession has hardened him against death so much he is virtually sociopathic or it will hit him properly later on. |
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Just had a quick look at Michael thomson's twitter page and it turns out he was his birthday on Easter Sunday so happy belated birthday if he ever checks in here.
Also Chizzy tweeted goodbye or is it adieu after last might's episode so either she is playing or there is a possibility of a return in the future, perhaps with Rosie. |
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I recall him mentioning it briefly before but certainly not in very much detail and you would expect it would be something you'd want a fairly experienced specialist to do...
Yes, you're absolutely right re Raf's mother. I mentioned that last week too. It is a big miss that that has not been referenced even once and that Raf has never been in more jovial form as the past two weeks! Quote:
Hopefully with Raf they may come back to his not having grieved properly for his Mother at a later date. He is abnormally okay, especially as it was a sudden death. At least if somebody has been sick for some time you've had time to prepare mentally or can even comfort yourself that their suffering has ended. I imaine that is how Serena felt with Adrienne.
Raf however, no pre warning, as far as we know she was a fit woman, not in pain and they had a good relationship. So his not only not reacting but being happier than we've probably ever seen him iss bizarre in the extreme. Either they are saying his profession has hardened him against death so much he is virtually sociopathic or it will hit him properly later on. |
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It's like Fletch - he wants to go drinking and clubbing........he's the single-parent of 4 children!!
His disregard for his children, not wanting to spend every minute he can helping them with their grief is quite astounding though. |
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Small niggle (in the scheme of things) but can anybody explain why Jonny had to wait for Jac to bring Emma to see him? Couldn't he just have gone down to the Crèche to take her out for a stroll whenever he wanted? There isn't a prohibitive order in place for him now, they'll know who he is and Jac could have telephoned to confirm it.
Also re the whole Jonny shouting at Mo and co - I just thought he was railing at the world in general rather than his anger being directed at anyone in particular - so more that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time (just my impression though). Am also wondering if Rosie might just be coming back to fulfill her maternity leave/contract obligations rather than for a long-term return. She has said she wants more babies after all and, not to put too fine a point on it, if that is going to happen she'll probably need to start working on it sooner rather than later. And in that case can see them potentially bringing her back with Jonny as an unseen presence, maybe working at the 'mythical St James' (if it's not been closed down by the Holby hoover obviously*) and mentioned every so often ('how's Jonny finding St James', 'will Jonny be at Albie's after work?', 'was really nice to see Jonny last night', 'bet Jonny's been a nightmare recently doing all those night shifts' etc, etc, and so on) * and why would a whole hospital close just because it lost its CT service anyway?? My local hospital no longer has a 24 hr A&E, has lost maternity and will soon be closing its paediatric ward but its still there |
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Ooohh and according to a tweet from James:
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Just had a quick look at Michael thomson's twitter page and it turns out he was his birthday on Easter Sunday so happy belated birthday if he ever checks in here.
Also Chizzy tweeted goodbye or is it adieu after last might's episode so either she is playing or there is a possibility of a return in the future, perhaps with Rosie. My GCSE French was (unfortunately) a long time ago!! |
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But don't they mean the same thing?? Isn't it au revoir if you're going to see them again??
My GCSE French was (unfortunately) a long time ago!! |
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I was actually wondering why he didn't just go home and take her with him so he could have the whole day with her?
Also re the whole Jonny shouting at Mo and co - I just thought he was railing at the world in general rather than his anger being directed at anyone in particular - so more that they were in the wrong place at the wrong time (just my impression though). Am also wondering if Rosie might just be coming back to fulfill her maternity leave/contract obligations rather than for a long-term return. She has said she wants more babies after all and, not to put too fine a point on it, if that is going to happen she'll probably need to start working on it sooner rather than later. And in that case can see them potentially bringing her back with Jonny as an unseen presence, maybe working at the 'mythical St James' (if it's not been closed down by the Holby hoover obviously*) and mentioned every so often ('how's Jonny finding St James', 'will Jonny be at Albie's after work?', 'was really nice to see Jonny last night', 'bet Jonny's been a nightmare recently doing all those night shifts' etc, etc, and so on) * and why would a whole hospital close just because it lost its CT service anyway?? My local hospital no longer has a 24 hr A&E, has lost maternity and will soon be closing its paediatric ward but its still there It was ranting at the World in general, but Mo did seem to come under particular fire after she asked him to go to the Pub. That could just be him lashing out at the nearest though, not just geographically but emotionally. Subconsciously he knows that Mo will forgive him in a way others might not due to their history. And to be fair, Mo does sometimes give the impression that she thinks Tuesday night Drinks will cure everything, jonny's snapped at her about it in the past. When Jac first dumped him to name one time. I always get confused by St James. Why are there 2 Big CT units in the same city? Most only have one or two in each county. For example in Essex, we have a CT Specialist ward in chelmsford but the primary Oncology Specialists are in colchester and southend. So, after initial diagnosis and once stable, nearly all CT comes to chelmsford, cancer transferred to colchester. Same with specialities like Burns. If you're not lucky enough to have a CT ward in your local Hospital, you can easily need to travel 60 or 70 miles to get to one! Plus, wasn't it between st James and Holby as to which would close in Season 13? Holby survived so shouldn;t St James' have closed? Yes unless CT is the only speciality there (and we know it isn't - Jac came from GS there) they wouldn't be able to sell off the whole site just because one Ward closed. The Hospital I was born in has recently been turned into housing but the process of closing it down took years i'd not decades. They'd close it ward by ward as new Hospitals outside of the town centre was expanded and they'd be arguments and petitions as each one went. |
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Re rosie's return, without knowing her personally (obviously) i am inclined to agree that her return might be brief. She has indicated she'd like more children and given not only her age but the problems she had conceiving due to various health complications, i don't think she'd want to wait a long time before trying again. Hopefully she'll be successfull so even if she wanted to stay full time, she might have to go on another maternity leave within a few months.
Depending on how hands on she wants to be with her child(ren), how many she wants, she might just decide it is better to have a clean break rather than put the show through the hassle of having to keep write her in and out within a relatively short period of time. It is a little different when there is a sizeable gap between children like Tina Hobley where it was nearly 3 years between her maternity leaves. Rosie could always do shorter term roles like theatre or guest spots if she wanted to work some of the time and of course she already helps out with her husband's business. She might also feel that Jac has gone about as far as she can and much as i love her, I think that could be the case. What is the other choice, we see her brought low professionally and personally to have to fight back? Again???? If it is a short term return then i can see them keeping her and Jonny together with him off screen or maybe even making the odd cameo appearance, especially to write her out again. It seems from thomson's interview that much as he has enjoyed Holby, he has decided that Theatre is his first love so might not be as concerned as others at being typecast again if he makes a brief return. Theatre casting agents tend not to have quite such an "well your audition was good but the audience still see you as..." mentality. indeed, sometimes they'd rather have the additional pr of having a television 'name' in their plays as it can get more 'bums on seats'. Of course if he is in the middle of a several month play run it just might be impossible to fit into his schedule no matter what. |
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I see from Digital Spy's summary of Michael Thompson's appearance on Lorraine, he has apparently said that last night was his and Jac's last episode. There was something similar on Holby TV also.
I'm wondering if Radio Times may have got it wrong and if perhaps they are actually not in next week's episode?! I hope they are as I think the ending to last night's would be a little sudden and unexplained (mainly on Jac's part) if that were it completely and there wasn't something about her leaving, giving up the medical director part etc and some idea given as to where they are going to. |
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Hard to know re Rosie and her return post maternity leave, but I think she will be back. I know she's been around for years, but I think there is still mileage in Jac as a character. If she is back permanently and Michael isn't I really can't see them doing the off screen relationship, at least not for long. Not because I think it's a bad idea, but holby producers never seem to have a character continue an off screen relationship with another permanent character who has left the show. |
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Just watched this on itv player and I didn't hear him mention that he wasn't on next weeks episode unless I missed it, so am expecting him and Rosie to appear at some point (really hoping there's another [random] Jac/Sacha scene for us all to enjoy before Rosie finally leaves!!)
Really hope we see them next week even if it is just in cameo. Also, I agree it would seem wrong to me for Jac to leave without having a goodbye scene with Sasha. They haven't had a scene together in ages now! |
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Just watched this on itv player and I didn't hear him mention that he wasn't on next weeks episode unless I missed it, so am expecting him and Rosie to appear at some point (really hoping there's another [random] Jac/Sacha scene for us all to enjoy before Rosie finally leaves!!)
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Hard to know re Rosie and her return post maternity leave, but I think she will be back. I know she's been around for years, but I think there is still mileage in Jac as a character. If she is back permanently and Michael isn't I really can't see them doing the off screen relationship, at least not for long. Not because I think it's a bad idea, but holby producers never seem to have a character continue an off screen relationship with another permanent character who has left the show. It seems logical that self is forced to resign his CEO position towards the end of next week (14th). We then have a week of candidates considering whether to go for it, gossip about what will happen amongst the ranks during the 21st. Interviews on 28th, ending on the reveal of Hansenn returning. His first full episode 5th May. That's how i'd play it out. I'm sure Rosie will be back. She has said she will be and frankly she strikes me as too professional not to fulfill her commitments. She just might leave at then end of her current contract, which could fall during another maternity leave. Re off screen relationships, depends whether they want her to be reasonably happy and not have on screen romantic storylines i guess. Usually you'd say ever character has romantic storylines but of all the young characters jac has actually gone lengthy periods without in the past. For instance it was nearly 18 months between Joseph leaving and Jonny joining during which time there was not a sniff of a sexual or romantic plot for Jac - it was all work stuff. They could do that again. |
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After watching interview I'm not convinced that Michael won't be back - he didn't say anything about work post July and (?purposely) wasn't asked about if we might see him back again. Was mentioning that the fans wanted a happy ending for Jac (thereby playing to those people who don't know that Rosie will be back after her maternity leave, or even that she has had a baby and that's why she's leaving). Suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
And re. Jac/Sacha we may not have had one in the last few weeks but, objectively we've had loads recently - considering they were as rare as hen's teeth for years after Jac moved on to Darwin (and that's one of the reasons I'm fairly positive someone does read this thread - we've been saying how much we like them together for ages and then there are really rather random scenes of them together) |
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After watching interview I'm not convinced that Michael won't be back - he didn't say anything about work post July and (?purposely) wasn't asked about if we might see him back again. Was mentioning that the fans wanted a happy ending for Jac (thereby playing to those people who don't know that Rosie will be back after her maternity leave, or even that she has had a baby and that's why she's leaving). Suppose we'll just have to wait and see.
And re. Jac/Sacha we may not have had one in the last few weeks but, objectively we've had loads recently - considering they were as rare as hen's teeth for years after Jac moved on to Darwin (and that's one of the reasons I'm fairly positive someone does read this thread - we've been saying how much we like them together for ages and then there are really rather random scenes of them together) Interesting re Michael not mentioning anything past July. He might of course just not know yet, either he'll stay with the Scottish National Theatre and be 'assigned' a new play or he's back on the market again. It could be significant though that August is about the time Rosie is due back filming and no oress release so far has indicated that it is for good. |
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I've just decided to put Jonny's first episode on, kind of a compare and contrast from beginning to end. I'd forgotten that it was Frieda's last episode. That seems a long time ago, longer than Jonny has been here. Yet, it was 18 months after Joseph went which still feels quite recent to me!
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Re off screen relationships, depends whether they want her to be reasonably happy and not have on screen romantic storylines i guess. Usually you'd say ever character has romantic storylines but of all the young characters jac has actually gone lengthy periods without in the past. For instance it was nearly 18 months between Joseph leaving and Jonny joining during which time there was not a sniff of a sexual or romantic plot for Jac - it was all work stuff. They could do that again. In a similar way I'd like to see Mary Claire return at some point and I don't see why she couldn't still be with Harry for him to be off screen. |
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I actually wish they would continue more relationships off screen and don't know why they never seem to do it. Particularly when we rarely see character's home lives in holby anyway.
In a similar way I'd like to see Mary Claire return at some point and I don't see why she couldn't still be with Harry for him to be off screen. I always said there was no reason Joseph couldn't have taken a GP's job locally and been with Jac off screen. As i mentioned, she didn't have a different love interest for a year and a half so in that respect it wouldn't have mad any difference. Except...Jac needs to be unhappy and unsatisfied to have an edge. if she'd finally got Consultant position (which happened at that time), plus had a happy and fulfilled home life she would have NO excuse to be snidey, bitchy etc. If she was she'd just come across as ungrateful. So choices were, have her still be lonely personally, have her look like an ungrateful cow who will NEVER be happy despite finally having everything she could want (Joseph, kid and good career) or soften her up. It's partly the same reason they couldn't let her keep Emma whilst in the sow, even as a single mother. There have been people with off screen partners of course. Meyer for one, although she wasn't mentioned until his final episode. Elliot when he first came in. Spence for a year although he still flirted like mad. It's probably slightly easier with older characters. |
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Smughira was another one although her having an off screen husband (at least off screen for the first year) didn't stop them playing up the 'will they, won't they' with Greg and 'what the ++++ is this' with Hansenn.
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