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Who knows. They might have her with Jonny when she gets back and she was making a quib. Jac doesn't get happy endings... She isn't that character to make things work in her personal life. She has a child now though...why can't that be her happy ending. I didn't think they were saying that about Elliot. And who on Holby hascever made it work. Elliot and Ollie's wives died and Ollie didn't exactly have a fulfilled relationship with her... Or anyone. Sacha...no. Guy... Widower. zosia... No. Digby...no. Dom...no. Rafe... Had anothrr man's baby. List goes on. The ones that did left together.
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What about RIC!
(Is he up to 5 now? Its so hard to keep count:![]() ![]() ) |
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Oh Ric and his ways. An attractive man granted but so many women. A pretty stable relationship in Holby would be novel BUT I get it. Actors leave at different times etc and it is imperfect story telling.
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Quite early on in the episode it felt like it was this was a definitive leaving episode for Eliot but as the producers have said that he's welcome back I do hope that they will be able to lure him back in the future...
It was a good episode but as I feared it did seem to be a little compacted and rushed with all the different plots going on. IF Dom and Diggers plot was moved to another episode then their plot and Eliots could of been expanded (some B story in AAU or something). A quick shot of Mrs B waving goodbye could have easily been filmed and inserted in. Possiblity for Frieda to come back. Nice reference to Joseph, someone from the show must read this thread. There is an opening for a CT consultant? Or will this be the decline of Darwin with the long term future of Rosie, James and Camilla in doubt? (It would mean the end of Adele though...)Next weeks episode... This one was a happy and a nice glass of wine, Tuesdays one will definitely need wine but for a different reason. You never know they could go to the same church as Jonny and Bonnie please!) ![]() ![]()
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Nice reference to Joseph, someone from the show must read this thread. There is an opening for a CT consultant? Or will this be the decline of Darwin with the long term future of Rosie, James and Camilla in doubt? (It would mean the end of Adele though...)![]() I hope Frieda comes back but she was AAU wasn't she. If she is an expert in TB through she could switch to Darwin. Love Frieda. |
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I remember watching at the time and commenting about holby and their use of legal terms. Custody as a legal term isn't used in the UK courts. Here the courts refer to residence and contact. Both the resident parent and the non resident parent always have parental responsibility for a child unless A the father is not listed on the birth certificate and has no PR as a result or B Public law proceedings are commenced by social services removing PR from one or both parents.
Jac and Jonny will both have had parental responsibility for Emma from her birth and since then. Jac was originally the resident parent and Jonny would have applied to the court for residence. After that court case a residence order would have been agreed in Jonny's favour but it wouldn't have removed Jac's parental responsibility, simply her right to have Emma living with her. Generally the non resident parent will have a contact order but that doesn't have to be the case as there was no indication that one was made here. Although the non resident parent can generally have whatever contact is agreed by the resident parent. Apologies for being incredibly boring! ETA a prohibitive steps order wouldn't remove Jonny's PR either. It would just stop him removing the child from the jurisdiction. I did study some law but it was over 25 years ago and mostly Contract and Criminal, little Family so I only know stuff from personal experience and thankfully nobody i know has ever been involved in a full 'custody' case although a few have had it threatened in nasty divorces. |
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What about RIC!
(Is he up to 5 now? Its so hard to keep count:![]() ![]() )Thandie was the 6th marriage and 5th wife i think (in 2007) as he married Lola twice. He Also almost married Sam and wanted to marry Diane during his time in the show. They seemed to have left that side of Ric's character behind now, just have him as the grumpy elder statesman that stares into the middle distance a lot. It is worth noting though that we have only met 2 of Ric's children - Leo and Jess. Possibly 3 of we count Cleo who was Lola's daughter but I'm sure she isn't included as one of Ric's 5 even though he helped bring her up. There are also 2 ex wives we have never met, we only saw Jess and Leo's mother briefly at his funeral. There is storyline potential there. |
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Quite early on in the episode it felt like it was this was a definitive leaving episode for Eliot but as the producers have said that he's welcome back I do hope that they will be able to lure him back in the future...
It was a good episode but as I feared it did seem to be a little compacted and rushed with all the different plots going on. IF Dom and Diggers plot was moved to another episode then their plot and Eliots could of been expanded (some B story in AAU or something). A quick shot of Mrs B waving goodbye could have easily been filmed and inserted in. Possiblity for Frieda to come back. Nice reference to Joseph, someone from the show must read this thread. There is an opening for a CT consultant? Or will this be the decline of Darwin with the long term future of Rosie, James and Camilla in doubt? (It would mean the end of Adele though...)Next weeks episode... This one was a happy and a nice glass of wine, Tuesdays one will definitely need wine but for a different reason. You never know they could go to the same church as Jonny and Bonnie please!) ![]() ![]() ![]() They have 2 registrars in Mo and Oliver (one very senior who that have indicated in the past has passed her Consultants exams - she covered for Jac early on), Zosia, Jessie and Adele. Plus Jac will be back withing a few weeks. Several wards have actually coped without an 'always there' Consultant for months - Kellar for example during Ric's sabbatical - Sacha runs it and he isn't a consultant. |
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5 children that he knows of!
![]() I though it was mentioned in a throw away line that Sacha was a consultant now? (Chizzy recently posted a pic of herself in front of a frosted department of gynae and obs. I know its been said that they won't bring back the maternity ward but they have recently shown a small bay so there will be MORE Mr T )
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Sacha is qualified as a Consultant but he doesn't actually hold a Consutant's position.
That isn't unusual, to qualify you need to pass certain exams and have spent a certai number of years in each position. IE, you can't take the consultants exams until you have been a Registrar for 7 years (i think, experts correct me if i'm wrong) so Ollie couldn't possibly even take the exams for a few years. However, being qualified as one does not mean you'll get that Jon. There has to be a vacancy at Consultant level for a qualified person to apply for and even when one comes up (which isn't thatoften) they have to interviews and somebody else could get the job due to having more experience, better qualifications, knowing the right people etc. They've covered this a few times in Holby. Jac was already qualified as a Consultant wheb she joined the series as a GS Reg in 2006 but didn't get a Contract consultants job until 2011. Malick assumed hek5 get a job on passing his exams in 2013 and was disappointed - as Hansenn said to him "which of your colleagues should i fire to make space for you to be a Consultant"? So, Sacha is qualified but not actually a Consultant for various reasons, including him not wanting to have the additional responsibility with 3 children to spend time with and enjoying being on the 'shop floor' with Patients rather than dealing with paper work and meetings. I think the line you mention might have been in the Autumn preview so they might be readdressing that issue. |
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5 children that he knows of!
![]() I though it was mentioned in a throw away line that Sacha was a consultant now? (Chizzy recently posted a pic of herself in front of a frosted department of gynae and obs. I know its been said that they won't bring back the maternity ward but they have recently shown a small bay so there will be MORE Mr T )Incidentally, we haven't had a full pregnancy and birth storyline around a main holby character since Jac had Emma. I have a feeling that they may end up going that way with Ollie and Zosia though. They seem to be wrapping up the will they/won't they storyline now and they will have to do something with them if they are to be together for any length of time. The unplanned pregnancy storyline would create plenty of drama, with Zosia having to come off her medication etc. It is a pretty predictable route for them to go down with Zosia's bi polar, but knowing Holby I think they will do it at some point, and most probably when Zosia is in a relationship with a fellow regular. I know that Sacha and Essie had discussed trying for a baby, but I think that they will have difficulties and that will be an upcoming storyline too. |
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Sacha is qualified as a Consultant but he doesn't actually hold a Consutant's position.
That isn't unusual, to qualify you need to pass certain exams and have spent a certai number of years in each position. IE, you can't take the consultants exams until you have been a Registrar for 7 years (i think, experts correct me if i'm wrong) so Ollie couldn't possibly even take the exams for a few years. However, being qualified as one does not mean you'll get that Jon. There has to be a vacancy at Consultant level for a qualified person to apply for and even when one comes up (which isn't thatoften) they have to interviews and somebody else could get the job due to having more experience, better qualifications, knowing the right people etc. They've covered this a few times in Holby. Jac was already qualified as a Consultant wheb she joined the series as a GS Reg in 2006 but didn't get a Contract consultants job until 2011. Malick assumed hek5 get a job on passing his exams in 2013 and was disappointed - as Hansenn said to him "which of your colleagues should i fire to make space for you to be a Consultant"? So, Sacha is qualified but not actually a Consultant for various reasons, including him not wanting to have the additional responsibility with 3 children to spend time with and enjoying being on the 'shop floor' with Patients rather than dealing with paper work and meetings. I think the line you mention might have been in the Autumn preview so they might be readdressing that issue. There is a bit of a grey area between a reg and consultant with the locum consultant position. Also some docs who have worked for ages get given an associate specialist title.
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Incidentally, we haven't had a full pregnancy and birth storyline around a main holby character since Jac had Emma. I have a feeling that they may end up going that way with Ollie and Zosia though. They seem to be wrapping up the will they/won't they storyline now and they will have to do something with them if they are to be together for any length of time. The unplanned pregnancy storyline would create plenty of drama, with Zosia having to come off her medication etc. It is a pretty predictable route for them to go down with Zosia's bi polar, but knowing Holby I think they will do it at some point, and most probably when Zosia is in a relationship with a fellow regular.. |
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Sacha is qualified as a Consultant but he doesn't actually hold a Consutant's position.
That isn't unusual, to qualify you need to pass certain exams and have spent a certai number of years in each position. IE, you can't take the consultants exams until you have been a Registrar for 7 years (i think, experts correct me if i'm wrong) so Ollie couldn't possibly even take the exams for a few years. However, being qualified as one does not mean you'll get that Jon. There has to be a vacancy at Consultant level for a qualified person to apply for and even when one comes up (which isn't thatoften) they have to interviews and somebody else could get the job due to having more experience, better qualifications, knowing the right people etc. They've covered this a few times in Holby. Jac was already qualified as a Consultant wheb she joined the series as a GS Reg in 2006 but didn't get a Contract consultants job until 2011. Malick assumed hek5 get a job on passing his exams in 2013 and was disappointed - as Hansenn said to him "which of your colleagues should i fire to make space for you to be a Consultant"? So, Sacha is qualified but not actually a Consultant for various reasons, including him not wanting to have the additional responsibility with 3 children to spend time with and enjoying being on the 'shop floor' with Patients rather than dealing with paper work and meetings. I think the line you mention might have been in the Autumn preview so they might be readdressing that issue. |
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This "applying for a job" doesn't seem to apply to Casualty where Lily passed her Registrar exams and is now swanning about as one despite us not seeing her have to apply - unless it was conveniently done off screen. And Louise didn't seem to have to apply to be a nurse either!
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Holby City NHS Trust has the best HR and CRB department in the world!
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That's very surprising I was sure
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That's very surprising I was sure
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I have a feeling that the new nurse is going to come between essie and sacha. It certainly looked that way the other week
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I think registrar is more of a natural progression isn't it? As in you do have to pass exams but its really just being fully qualified in a specific area. Consultants to roles are far more goldust. I thought Lily just passed her exams... Yippee.
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I'm not sure. I thought Connie told her she would have to apply for a registrar position when one became available, but I guess they can't stop her acting as one if she's got the qualification...
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I think registrar is more of a natural progression isn't it? As in you do have to pass exams but its really just being fully qualified in a specific area. Consultants to roles are far more goldust. I thought Lily just passed her exams... Yippee.
Consultants positions will be rarer - like any industry it is the pyramid aspect - there are always more junior positions than senior ones. |
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I'm not sure. I thought Connie told her she would have to apply for a registrar position when one became available, but I guess they can't stop her acting as one if she's got the qualification...
Yes, they'll have the knowledge but i'd imagine that certain tests will need to be signed off by the correct level. Like all administration, if you need a consultants signature it would have to be the person that actually has that job - stating "I'm qualified so that should be good enough" wouldn't work. Likewise, you wouldn't be able to introduce yourself as Consultant / Registrar to Patients until you actually are one. Again, we've seen in the past that certain operations can only be performed with a Consultant in attendance and being qualifed as one but not actually being one doesn't count. There was an episode with Malick when he wanted to press on with one after qualifying and was told he couldn't in in no uncertain terms. I don't know what is going on with Lilly. |
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(Is he up to 5 now? Its so hard to keep count:
You never know they could go to the same church as Jonny and Bonnie please!) 