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The Big Holby City Thread (Part 5)
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kitkat1971
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by skteosk:
“Elliot removed from the credits seemed like a pretty clear message. Some bones finally added to Cara's fairly thin character and perhaps a justification for why she's remained an enigma for so long. I'm enjoying her getting more screen time but can't really get involved in the storyline: It feels like her husband's only a short-term character, especially if Nicole's insinuation is taken at face value.

Another thumbs up for Adele's new hair and I actually didn't think she was too bad this week. She did at least have a reason for getting over-involved and she seemed to bend the rules slightly rather than trampling all over them. (Hands up any long term fans who went "Oh, it's Kerri's mum.") The transplant storyline, the unlikelihood of two sets of matching lungs suddenly becoming available aside, went quite well and it's good to see Essie branching out.

The ending seems to suggest that Sacha was right and Jesse needs to learn to be a team player yet...Firstly, Sacha cancels an operation without following protocol and without consulting or even telling the assigned anaesthetist, so isn't he the one not being a team player? Secondly, if a patient wants to decide whether or not to have an operation by tossing a coin, that's entirely his right. It is not Sacha's place to snatch the coin from him in a huff and cause him to rupture his abscess and render the whole thing moot. Thirdly, Jesse's plan worked perfectly with no hiccups apart from a bit of clowning so...doesn't that mean he was right?

They put Guy in the episode just to silently sit at a bar eyeing up Fran?”

I agree with most of that.

Re Adele, it is hard to believe that she hasn't been involved with a transplant case before given she has been working on Darwin for over a year and seemed to be Jonny's 'pet' prject for quite some time, him letting her shadow him so she could learn and be supervised as trained so she should know the fundamentals - that things can go wrong on the day ere the recipients health, that if a more urgent case comes, anywhere within time for the organs to get there (let alone the same Hospital) they take priority and never promise the Patient anything not even by inference.

But, as you say, this woman was a friend and it was her first day back after a dreadful experience so we should probably give her some leeway. Most other characters i think I would but there is something distinctly annoying about Adele's basic demeanor and attitude. At least Essie looks like she might be willing to reprimand her should the need arise, unlike the team she's been working with up until now except Jac who would always be over ruled by Elliot and Jonny.

There is an interview with Petra in this week's Inside Soap by the way if anybody is interested and it does sound as though she'll be quite annoying next week as well.

I'd forgotten Denise Welch had appeared as a regulars relative before - i rather zoned out of a lot of Season 4 and 5 as i thought those seasons were quite weak - hated Maternity and Otter and far too soaps for me.

Jody Latham never seems to commit to long term roles and he wasn't in the 'recurrring' bit of the credits so I imagine we might see him one more time but that will be it.

Re Sacha - i would have thought that as the surgeon he would have final say as to whether an operation takes place but it does seem odd not to consult either the Gasser or Psych if his concern was about survival whilst under or his mental health re decision making rather than the 'plumbing' itself.

It did also feel a little odd for him to be lecturing about team playing considering that he worked fine with Jac (probably the text book example of not being a team player) and indeed they are good friends. Also, has Jesse ever shown this attitude before? He seemed find as part of the Darwin team.

Selfie seems to like redheads doesn't he - Kim Thomson's guest character last year, Jac and now Fran.

I'm really starting to like Dom a lot. His face during the cricket metaphor. Raf is also growing on me away from Harry and Amy. He's not doing much but he is personable.
EVIL-MONKEY
30-09-2015
Augh! I can't imagine what this episode would have been if it wasn't for the wine! I don't think I will bother with next weeks 'Adelfest'.

The only part I really liked was they needed a ob's and gyne doc (they don't always get one) MR T and his T'isms!!!

(I don't know if anyones asked this before but who on earth thought it was a good idea to have BLACK scrubs particularly someone dealing with newborns/deaths!)
kitkat1971
30-09-2015
Originally Posted by EVIL-MONKEY:
“Augh! I can't imagine what this episode would have been if it wasn't for the wine! I don't think I will bother with next weeks 'Adelfest'.

The only part I really liked was they needed a ob's and gyne doc (they don't always get one) MR T and his T'isms!!!

(I don't know if anyones asked this before but who on earth thought it was a good idea to have BLACK scrubs particularly someone dealing with newborns/deaths!)”

I don't think there is anything wrong with black scrubs per se - certainly practical re not showing blood!

I'm not sure if obs and Gynae makes a huge difference. If the baby is delivered okay, the parents won't care. If something foes wrong, they'll feel like their world has ended so probably appreciate the black.

I'd say it is better than having incredibly bright, happy colours. Enough of that already around in Maternity wards.
lfc90
01-10-2015
Where did they film the seaside episode with Dom and dig in episode 22nd September

Please thanks
srhgts
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“There has been no announcement and i would say not. They covered that she had 'fallen in love' with Pakistan and also wants to make a difference without all the Politics of the NHS (the reason she left in the first place) so would imagine she would return there.

I also believe the actress is concentrating on other things these days. I think she probably did it as a one off as a favour for Paul Bradley's exit - the same as Marcel coming in to film one episode in the middle of her maternity leave.”



It seems pretty cruel of them to tease us with just having her back for one episode. It's also very random to bring her back for Elliot's exit?
kitkat1971
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by srhgts:
“

It seems pretty cruel of them to tease us with just having her back for one episode. It's also very random to bring her back for Elliot's exit?”

I don't know how random it really is.

It needed to be somebody important to elliot (and the rest of the staff including Hansenn) for them to flout the rules to have another Quarantine case like that. Also, for them to talk about how wonderful, important and necessary the work in Pakistan is for him to leave the NHS and his research - love wouldn't be enough for a 'life saver' like Elliot.

So, within that, there weren't many people that we as an audience would know, and know their connection with Elliot for it to be believable. If you consider the Doctors Elliot has mentored or been close to. Penny, Maddy, Tara - all dead. Sam and Joseph settled and fairly recently mentioned as being in New York or Penrith, plus have children to care for which would stop them being 'doctors without Borders'. Same with Sahira. Connie, Jac and Oliver are all in Holby. So very few candidates left - in fact i struggle to think of anyone else where we don't know their whereabouts that elliot would care that much about - Maria or Faye perhaps but that would be it.

They've had actors return for one episode to write somebody out before. It wasn't as big a gap between his leaving and return to be fair but Peter Wingfield (Dan Clifford) for Maddy's final episode is one example.

Often an actor will do it simply because of the high regard or friendship they have for the departing actor. It is, effectively a favour.

And by all accounts, Bradley is one of the most popular people on set and has been for years so i can believe anybody they'd approached would probably have come back for an episode if they could possibly fit it into their schedule.
kitkat1971
02-10-2015
Just thought of one other possibility - Greg.

We don't know what happened to him and he could have ended up working somewhere dangerous and Elliot, Hansenn, Jac and Oliver would have cared enough personally to get involved, be inspired. But I'm having trouble thinking of anybody else.

As stated, they're either dead or where know what their current circumstances are.

Fair enough we don't know for sure that Joseph is still in Cum ria, or still married but unless there has been a tragedy he will still have Harry to look after so unlikely to be Indiana jonesing it practically a war zone.
george.millman
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by NMdum1:
“It's just crapping on the history - if it happened more than about five years ago, it didn't happen anymore.”

Originally Posted by Deschanel:
“I too, feel like that anything that happened 5+ years ago (or even less), then it just didn't happen. They put more effort into the newer characters (who are inferior in many ways) than they do those that existed before (Oliver is an exception).”

By this logic, none of the characters in the show exist. All of them were born more than five years ago, so their birth never happened, so they never existed. QED.
kitkat1971
02-10-2015
Originally Posted by george.millman:
“By this logic, none of the characters in the show exist. All of them were born more than five years ago, so their birth never happened, so they never existed. QED.”

Hardly.

Obviously the characters existed more than 5 years ago, whether they were on the show or not - they aren't all pre school toddlers.

What i think the posters were meaning was that they assume viewers weren't watching, won't remember or won't care about anything that happened more than approx 5 years ago so they don't need to be true to it, either factually in terms of what happened or in the characterisation. Like, for example, Elliot now having had a 'first love' at Med School before Gina so serious they nearly married despite it being established 9 years ago (and several times during his bereavement) that he and Gina met as Freshers, married 6 months later and had only ever 'been with' each other for the 225 years since despite only being mid 40s which is why he found her loss so hard and couldn't contemplate being with anybody else in any meaningful way. As he said to Anne-Marie Byrne when they started close, even if he moved on in life, he would have to buried next to Gina because there had only ever been her and he couldn't imagine it any other way.

There are other examples but that is a fairly prominent, recent one.
lfc90
03-10-2015
Where did they film the seaside episode with Dom and dig in episode 22nd September
Collins1965
05-10-2015
Anyone else think that Adele and Jesse won't make it to the altar this week? He is bound to have some fatal flaw that she sees at the last minute (although to me she looks like she's been having doubts for ages) and calls it off.

I don't know why they think this is a suitable series finale - it won't be a patch on the Sacha/Chrissie wedding finale I bet.

We won't have to wait long till the next series, anyway!!
kitkat1971
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by lfc90:
“Where did they film the seaside episode with Dom and dig in episode 22nd September”

I was wondering that.

I don't know but logic would say it would be somewhere as near a seaside/caravan park to Borehamwood as they could get to keep costs down.
kitkat1971
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“Anyone else think that Adele and Jesse won't make it to the altar this week? He is bound to have some fatal flaw that she sees at the last minute (although to me she looks like she's been having doubts for ages) and calls it off.

I don't know why they think this is a suitable series finale - it won't be a patch on the Sacha/Chrissie wedding finale I bet.

We won't have to wait long till the next series, anyway!!”

The answer is in the Inside Soap interview with Petra should you want to know early.

I agree, she's had doubts ever since he proposed. First it was how she proposed, then not consulting her about the designs for their house (despite him seeming to cater to her dreams), then him picking a dress for the engagement party, now him organising the wedding. Either she's just ungrateful, or she is picking up on these things because she isn't sure about being with him long term.

I agree - it seems like a repeat of Chrissie and Sacha but can't possibly work as well because we aren't as invested in the e characters. Although i disliked Chrissie intensely, there was no denying she was a hugely important character with a long history so it was interesting to see if this serial 'prettiest girl in the room, must command every man's attention' would recogise that 'Buttons' was actually 'Prince charming' and marry him and Sacha is just so lovely that we wanted to see him happy, marrying the girl he loved - even if she didn't deserve him.
MartinRosen
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I

I don't know but logic would say it would be somewhere as near a seaside/caravan park to Borehamwood as they could get to keep costs down.”

I don't know about a caravan park, but there is certainly no seaside for many miles around Borehamwood, south Hertfordshire.
kitkat1971
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by MartinRosen:
“I don't know about a caravan park, but there is certainly no seaside for many miles around Borehamwood, south Hertfordshire.”

No, quite. The nearest would probably be round in Essex but that didn't much look like any of the Essex seaside resorts. Maybe some of the Suffolk/Norfole ones like Yarmouth or Cromer.

Logically you'd think it should be somewhere south west coast like Burnham on Sea or Weston Super Mare and they could maybe have 'camped out' at the Casualty studios in Wales to film - plenty of seaside areas within easy reach of them.

I do think that North Essex, Suffolk or Norfolk are most likely - they wouldn't take that long to get to from Elstree.
shya100
05-10-2015
It was Clacton... Recognised it. My mate lives down the road.
kitkat1971
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by shya100:
“It was Clacton... Recognised it. My mate lives down the road.”

Do you know what, i thought it might be. I used to go there a lot when I was little - my Grandparents lived in Colchester and Dad used to take my Granddad, my brother, the dog and me there for a few hours to give Granddad a break whilst my Mum looked after Grandma who had Dementia. I'd spend ages going round and round on the ghost train.

So, North Essex which does make sense as about the closest coastal resort to Elstree.
shya100
05-10-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Do you know what, i thought it might be. I used to do there a lot when i was little - my Grandparents lived in Colchester and Dad used to take my Granddad and us there for a few hours to give him a break whilst my Mum looked after Grandma who had Dementia. I'd spend ages going round and round on the ghost train.

So, North Essex which does make sense as about the closest coastal resort to Elstree.”

They were never going to go far.

About last episode of the season predictions... It's all about the re!ationships.

Cara will split with Hubbie.

Adele will leave Jesse BUT everyone will still have the party.

Zosia and Ollie will just kind of, I don't know, be together.

And everyone will get merrily drunk on the bubbly of the wedding... All except Adele and Jessie... Well all the characters that are there.
Little Star
06-10-2015
Originally Posted by shya100:
“They were never going to go far.

About last episode of the season predictions... It's all about the re!ationships.

Cara will split with Hubbie.

Adele will leave Jesse BUT everyone will still have the party.

Zosia and Ollie will just kind of, I don't know, be together.

And everyone will get merrily drunk on the bubbly of the wedding... All except Adele and Jessie... Well all the characters that are there.”

Predictions for the next season:

Cara and Raf will get together post Cara's break up with hubby.

Morven and Digby will have a series of misunderstandings and then ultimately get together.

Ollie and Zosia will be happy for about six weeks before a drama unfolds. Most likely she will become pregnant and make the decision to come off her meds.

There will be some triangle between Essie, Sacha and the new nurse. Essie and Sacha will be unable to conceive a baby and ultimately they will break up.

Jac will return bitter and miserable post her break up with Jonny.

Mr T will become permanent and he and Mo will finally get together (this is partly wishful thinking!)

Someone will be killed off. Mainly because there were no major characters killed off in this season!
Collins1965
06-10-2015
Originally Posted by Little Star:
“Predictions for the next season:

Cara and Raf will get together post Cara's break up with hubby.

Morven and Digby will have a series of misunderstandings and then ultimately get together.

Ollie and Zosia will be happy for about six weeks before a drama unfolds. Most likely she will become pregnant and make the decision to come off her meds.

There will be some triangle between Essie, Sacha and the new nurse. Essie and Sacha will be unable to conceive a baby and ultimately they will break up.

Jac will return bitter and miserable post her break up with Jonny.

Mr T will become permanent and he and Mo will finally get together (this is partly wishful thinking!)

Someone will be killed off. Mainly because there were no major characters killed off in this season!”

I agree with most of what you say. I don't think Jac will come back bitter and miserable, though - I think she will be fine. She has made her peace with things not working out with Jonnie and wants to concentrate on her career is what I am hoping for.

I think Mr T works best as a semi-regular character and I think he is too good for Mo - by that I mean if she hasn't seen how lovely he is by now it's too late for a turn-around.

Cara and Raf are bound to get together and I could see Arthur and Morven happening too. I think Fran? will seduce Sacha, I am quite convinced of it. And I would love to see Ollie happy but I have my doubts if Zosia is the right one for him.

I hope they give Ric something to do when he comes back and Hanssen has been criminally underused imo.
MartinRosen
06-10-2015
Originally Posted by Little Star:
“Morven and Digby will have a series of misunderstandings and then ultimately get together.
”

But didn't Diggers 'come out' a couple of weeks ago?
Little Star
06-10-2015
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“I agree with most of what you say. I don't think Jac will come back bitter and miserable, though - I think she will be fine. She has made her peace with things not working out with Jonnie and wants to concentrate on her career is what I am hoping for.

I think Mr T works best as a semi-regular character and I think he is too good for Mo - by that I mean if she hasn't seen how lovely he is by now it's too late for a turn-around.

Cara and Raf are bound to get together and I could see Arthur and Morven happening too. I think Fran? will seduce Sacha, I am quite convinced of it. And I would love to see Ollie happy but I have my doubts if Zosia is the right one for him.

I hope they give Ric something to do when he comes back and Hanssen has been criminally underused imo.”

I completely agree re Ric and Hanssen. Ric has been a brilliant character in the past but they've done nothing with him in recent years. If they are going to take him back again then they need to make it worthwhile.

Hanssen has been completely underused since his return. I really do not see what the point of his return was. Whilst I really do not like Selfie, they at least gave him proper storylines when he was CEO. Even now he has way more to get his teeth into than Hanssen! I haven't even liked Hanssen's character as much second time around. Mainly because of the way he has been written. He seems to pop up mainly at the start and the end of episodes as an add on to give a short opinion on the day's events! I am wondering whether Guy Henrick agreed to come back on the proviso that he had reduced hours or something like that.

I actually hope that you are right re Jac as I don't like seeing her bitter and miserable but I have an awful feeling they are going to go there again. They just don't seem to want the character to be happy for more than five minutes! I really hope we at least find out that she is spending proper time with Emma now and has joint residence at least.

Re Mo - you are probably right that Mr T does not deserve her but I suppose I really just want to see him happy and he is so mad about her!!

I actually think that Ollie and Zosia are a good pairing and have plenty of chemistry unlike anyone they've paired Ollie with before!
Collins1965
06-10-2015
Originally Posted by MartinRosen:
“But didn't Diggers 'come out' a couple of weeks ago?”

No, he kissed Dom as a show of love and support for him (Dom) being gay in front of his homophobic father. Digby is not gay himself.

But I actually think they would make a lovely couple!!
Collins1965
06-10-2015
Originally Posted by Little Star:
“I completely agree re Ric and Hanssen. Ric has been a brilliant character in the past but they've done nothing with him in recent years. If they are going to take him back again then they need to make it worthwhile.

Hanssen has been completely underused since his return. I really do not see what the point of his return was. Whilst I really do not like Selfie, they at least gave him proper storylines when he was CEO. Even now he has way more to get his teeth into than Hanssen! I haven't even liked Hanssen's character as much second time around. Mainly because of the way he has been written. He seems to pop up mainly at the start and the end of episodes as an add on to give a short opinion on the day's events! I am wondering whether Guy Henrick agreed to come back on the proviso that he had reduced hours or something like that.

I actually hope that you are right re Jac as I don't like seeing her bitter and miserable but I have an awful feeling they are going to go there again. They just don't seem to want the character to be happy for more than five minutes! I really hope we at least find out that she is spending proper time with Emma now and has joint residence at least.

Re Mo - you are probably right that Mr T does not deserve her but I suppose I really just want to see him happy and he is so mad about her!!

I actually think that Ollie and Zosia are a good pairing and have plenty of chemistry unlike anyone they've paired Ollie with before!”

I have wondered the same thing about Guy Henry - did he only agree to come back on reduced hours, or something. He just tops and tails each episode now and it's not enough!!!!!
MartinRosen
06-10-2015
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“No, he kissed Dom as a show of love and support for him (Dom) being gay in front of his homophobic father. Digby is not gay himself.

But I actually think they would make a lovely couple!!”

Thanks for the clarification.

Dom's character has certainly developed recently, which is a good thing.

I agree about them making a lovely couple !!!
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