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The Big Holby City Thread (Part 5)
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Little Star
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I think that could well be it and i wouldn't be entirely surprised if the person making the call is Jac. Or even we see Jac and Jonny arrive in Sweden to start new jobs (they do,'t have to go to America re Herzig after all) to be met by Hansenn who then says "tell me everything" or similar. They are the last 2 on the cast list.

I'd be surprised if Harry and MC don't leave together now.

ETA: i see Little Star has said something similar.

Also, i think Raf has good chemistry with quite a few people actually. Not necessarily romantic but a 'spark'. I have high hopes for him now he isn't going to be primarily interacting with Harry and Amy. I'm sorry Harry fans but that storyline never worked and really dragged Raf down I think who i thought had potential when he arrived.”

I agree re Raf. I think he has good chemistry with most characters save for Amy! I think MC also has good chemistry with most other characters, but I definitely don't see anything to their relationship beyond a matesy, brother/sister type relationship. Similar to the one MC has with Fletch.

I completely agree that the Amy/Raf/Harry storyline did nothing for Raf. I don't think it did anything for any of the characters tbh. It went on far too long and Amy was never interesting enough to really make me care about the outcome. I actually think that Harry and Raf's interactions have been good since Amy left.

I would be shocked if MC and Harry do not leave together now. The only possible variation I could see, would be a twist that sees MC deciding not to leave Holby and Harry leaving alone, but I believe the latter is much less likely than a joint exit. I have had a feeling that the storyline was building towards a joint exit for a while.

ETA - re Jac making a phone call from Sweden. That would be a great closing scene. It's also something they could have filmed well in advance of Rosie's maternity leave in case they had to write her out early and show that Jac and Jonny had gotten together off screen in the event that she couldn't be seen in any of his final scenes at Holby.
Little Star
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Collins1965:
“She has been a great addition to the cast. Good luck to the actress if she IS leaving. I hope we get confirmation on that, one way or the other....”

Agreed. MC is a great character! I think we really got to see how great she was in the last six months or so, so if she is leaving I hope there is some possibility of a return.
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
I'm afraid i haven't liked Harry and raf's interaction since Amy left either simply because it changed too suddenly. They went from hating each other, not just because of Amy and the baby but because of their very different backgrounds (raf thinking Harry was a posh, incompetent idiot who'd had everything handed to him on a plate) to being best buddies with no explanation except that Amy had buggered off with the baby leaving both of them. If there had been a couple of proper conversations, a few weeks of armistice i'd have accepted it. But it went mortal enemies/jokey, matey colleagues overnight.

I doubt we'll actually see Jac and Jonny on location abroad, i meant more an airport scene or similar they could have filmed in England.
Little Star
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“I'm afraid i haven't liked Harry and raf's interaction since Amy left either simply because it changed too suddenly. They went from hating each other, not just because of Amy and the baby but because of their very different backgrounds (raf thinking Harry was a posh, incompetent idiot who'd had everything handed to him on a plate) to being best buddies with no explanation except that Amy had buggered off with the baby leaving both of them. If there had been a couple of proper conversations, a few weeks of armistice i'd have accepted it. But it went mortal enemies/jokey, matey colleagues overnight.

I doubt we'll actually see Jac and Jonny on location abroad, i meant more an airport scene or similar they could have filmed in England.”

Yes their relationship definitely did change far too quickly and as I said previously, Raf's uber commitment to Harry's treatment to the detriment of not going to Glasgow straight after his mother's death was very hard to believe. Especially given their history. I meant that the actual interactions between them taken in isolation, had some level of chemistry to them post Amy, in my opinion. The premise of them being buddies straight away definitely was odd to anyone who had been watching over the previous year. I just would like to have taken that whole Amy/baby storyline out all together, along with Raf's immediate, unjustified dislike of Harry when he first arrived, as I think the two characters could have been quite entertaining together without all of that.

Just realising that in my previous post I had written incorrectly re Jac. I meant phone call to Sweden not from Sweden. Although, I do think it would be feasible to have a scene set abroad which was actually filmed in England if they wanted to show where they were.
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
On air now
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
Sacha's getting in at 11.20 am??
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Sez_babe:
“Sacha's getting in at 11.20 am??”

Of he's starting his shift at mid day that would be about right. Most hospitals work on 3 shifts of 8 hours each. Though that would mean one of the sift changeovers is 4am which seems unlikely.

They might do longer night time shifts, 10 or 12 hours from 8pm to 6am or 8am with several different start up times for shifts during the day so there is cross over.
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
Ah Jac has taken deferred maternity leave. That's how she's just been able to go.
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“Ah Jac has taken deferred maternity leave. That's how she's just been able to go.”

That's a great way of writing Jac out - I've never heard that before in real life or on TV but it makes sense.
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
No, i've never heard of it either but i guess it is a rarely exploited loophole for those people that don't take it at the time. It is a legal entitlement after all and adoptive parents can take it no matter how old their child is when they get them.
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
Harry is looking remarkably well
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by kitkat1971:
“No, i've never heard of it either but i guess it is a rarely exploited loophole for those people that don't take it at the time. It is a legal entitlement after all and adoptive parents can take it no matter how old their child is when they get them.”

Yeh it's a good idea
Little Star
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Sez_babe:
“Harry is looking remarkably well”

Yes, major transformation in two weeks...
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Little Star:
“Yes, major transformation in two weeks...”

It's extraordinary
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
Originally Posted by Sez_babe:
“Yeh it's a good idea”

With the proposed extended Paternity Leave rules, you can see the logic of it if parents want to have one of them at home with the baby as long as possible too. Basically one parent could take the first 9 months of the baby's life and then the other one could take deferred maternity/paternity leave for the next 9 months so the baby has one to one parental care for the first 18 months to 2 years without either parent losing their jobs long term.
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
Harru looks fantastic. What was all the fuss about?!?!

I'm almost feeling a little sorry for Guy. He's getting it from all sides isn't he.

Elliot doesn't mention what he and the others put Jac through (sending her to coventry as one example) for 'stealing' his position even though he obviously realise it came from Self I notice.
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
I love Essie and Sacha
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
So, Jalc has now been usurped, permenantly i seems.

As with elliot's demotion not being legal (unless they'd proved he was unfit after his operation) you can't take somebody's job away whilst they are on maternity leave.

I hate that elliot is still somehow blaming jac. "You wanted to be on the Jac Naylor Express" as if she went to guy want to move things up several gears re Herzig when that isn't what happened at all.

Sorry to say bu i may be zoning out during Darwin scenes from now on if it is just going to be elliot doing everything his own way with st Adele facilitating him.
darrenh2011
14-04-2015
great episode tonight and Holby fans rejoice Series 1 and 2 are out on dvd next month

http://www.netanttila.com/shop/fi/ne...8009715--malli
owen10
14-04-2015
Is Guy leaving
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
Arthur
kitkat1971
14-04-2015
Well, Self gets points for recommending Serena at least.
owen10
14-04-2015
Does Harry still love Marie Claire as she is leaving right now
owen10
14-04-2015
I think Harry is nearly back to normal as his swelling needed to go down
Sez_babe
14-04-2015
Jac and Johnny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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