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Old 07-04-2015, 09:36
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Does anyone remember this scene from when Dean was released from prison last time? Why has it not been referenced? Surely Shirley would remember this and remember Dean's violent temper? It seems that it has been conveniently forgotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqgL3x3Ocg

Also Soaplife says: 'Shirley put Dean behind bars and they both have to live with that. But we know that bad things happen when Dean feels rejected. Who will be in danger when he gets out of prison? And he does get out. He's going to get out of prison angry and bitter and looking for revenge. Will he blame Linda for being banged up when Stan died and go after her? Will he turn on his mum? Or is it brother Mick he'll want to punish? Watch out Linda!

Will this scene finally be referenced? Will Dean kick off at Shirley again, like last time? Or will he just let her reporting him go? I think he loves his mum but when he is angry is has attacked her in the past and raped Linda. Where will his anger be directed when he comes out? It sounds like they are going to take Dean even further into the point of no return, he is mentally unstable. (by saying he is mentally unstable, I am not excusing his crime in any way!)

In related news: I kind of would like Shirley AND Linda to be involved in Dean's comeuppance. It would be tough for the victim and the mother of the rapist but it would be satisfying if both were involved and it led to them reconciling in future. I don't think Shirley could ever disown Dean because she feels guilty for abandoning him and he plays the emotional card with her but it would be the right thing for her to step up.

With Dean not facing trial, what on earth will his comeuppance be? Where are they going with this? I love the characters involved, well most of them (Shirley, Buster, Stan, preChristmas Mick, Denise) but I don't know how much longer I can watch this story.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:02
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Dean only ended up in prison because backed up Chelsea to frame Sean. Shirley had nothing to do with the fact he was sent down for that. Infact she tried her best to get him off so Dean's anger towards her made no sense at the time because both him and Shirley had become close. It was Carly who had the problem with Shirley back then.

My take is that Dean just attacked Shirley because he wasn't man enough to attack Sean. So Shirley got all of Dean's anger.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:04
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Does anyone remember this scene from when Dean was released from prison last time? Why has it not been referenced? Surely Shirley would remember this and remember Dean's violent temper? It seems that it has been conveniently forgotten.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maqgL3x3Ocg

Also Soaplife says: 'Shirley put Dean behind bars and they both have to live with that. But we know that bad things happen when Dean feels rejected. Who will be in danger when he gets out of prison? And he does get out. He's going to get out of prison angry and bitter and looking for revenge. Will he blame Linda for being banged up when Stan died and go after her? Will he turn on his mum? Or is it brother Mick he'll want to punish? Watch out Linda!

Will this scene finally be referenced? Will Dean kick off at Shirley again, like last time? Or will he just let her reporting him go? I think he loves his mum but when he is angry is has attacked her in the past and raped Linda. Where will his anger be directed when he comes out? It sounds like they are going to take Dean even further into the point of no return, he is mentally unstable. (by saying he is mentally unstable, I am not excusing his crime in any way!)

In related news: I kind of would like Shirley AND Linda to be involved in Dean's comeuppance. It would be tough for the victim and the mother of the rapist but it would be satisfying if both were involved and it led to them reconciling in future. I don't think Shirley could ever disown Dean because she feels guilty for abandoning him and he plays the emotional card with her but it would be the right thing for her to step up.

With Dean not facing trial, what on earth will his comeuppance be? Where are they going with this? I love the characters involved, well most of them (Shirley, Buster, Stan, preChristmas Mick, Denise) but I don't know how much longer I can watch this story.
I was thinking about this the other day and wondered whether I'd imagined it happening as I'd not noticed it referenced anywhere.

At the time I thought it was a powerful scene and felt Dean a nasty piece of work. Surely to goodness Shirley would remember that when considering whether she believes Dean or not. Though I guess she could have been in denial, him being her son.

Good find Ell_Ren.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:07
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Dean only ended up in prison because backed up Chelsea to frame Sean. Shirley had nothing to do with the fact he was sent down for that. Infact she tried her best to get him off so Dean's anger towards her made no sense at the time because both him and Shirley had become close. It was Carly who had the problem with Shirley back then.

My take is that Dean just attacked Shirley because he wasn't man enough to attack Sean. So Shirley got all of Dean's anger.
I completely agree. Dean deflected the blame onto Shirley because it was easier than blaming himself. In some ways he has done this with the rape too.

The anger was out of the blue, I remember Dean calling for his mum when he was taken down but it did happen and for some reason it has been forgotten. If we take out why it happened and just think of the incident itself, surely Shirley would remember what Dean is capable of when angry? I think it should be referenced.

I was thinking about this the other day and wondered whether I'd imagined it happening as I'd not noticed it referenced anywhere.

At the time I thought it was a powerful scene and felt Dean a nasty piece of work. Surely to goodness Shirley would remember that when considering whether she believes Dean or not. Though I guess she could have been in denial, him being her son.

Good find Ell_Ren.


It was a powerful scene and I don't think it should have been forgotten, tbh.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:10
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Shirley should have nothing to do with Linda's confrontation of Dean - Linda has been shoehorned out her own storyline enough, no way should the conclusion of it be a vehicle for martyr Shirley to take the spotlight.
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:12
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Shirley gets strangled

Let me watch..
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Old 07-04-2015, 10:16
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Shirley should have nothing to do with Linda's confrontation of Dean - Linda has been shoehorned out her own storyline enough, no way should the conclusion of it be a vehicle for martyr Shirley to take the spotlight.
I'm not saying that Shirley should be involved in Linda/Dean's confrontation, but it would make sense for her to be involved in Dean's comeuppance, he is her son.
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Old 26-04-2015, 18:31
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I am still wondering if it will ever be referenced that Dean attacked Shirley when he was released from prison and has been physically intimating to her in the past - surely this would be something good to acknowledge within the current rape story and Dean's attitude/behaviour around women? He blamed Shirley for being banged up last time when she wasn't at fault hence part of the aggression, but this time she actually did put him in the slammer where he obtained injuries - will he find out?
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Old 26-04-2015, 19:00
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I assume the fact the a soap magazine has put a lot of thought into those words, that something is actually going to happen?

I would also have thought Shirley would at least try and get Dean to talk about all of the prison stuff - it's not like she could have forgotten, he shouted at her in the Vic about it when he first returned properly.
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