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Old 08-04-2015, 14:30
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Ok so Dean is currently on remand but on Friday 17th Linda receives some devastating news which I am assuming is from the police informing her there is insufficient evidence to charge Dean. I presume this because in inside soaps sneak peak for the week beginning 20th April it states "Can Linda finally make Dean realise his wrongdoing?"

Linda wouldn't be able to visit Dean on remand so he must be released.

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Old 08-04-2015, 14:46
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It's the most likely outcome, not much evidence to go on, it's very much he said, she said situation.
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Old 08-04-2015, 14:58
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I hope Inside Soaps have made a mistake. A storyline where a rape victim has to convince her rapist that he was wrong would be disgusting and a new low point for EE.
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Old 08-04-2015, 15:04
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Dean defintely gets off, I read in soaplife. Plus DTC said that he won't face court. So I imagine that the news next Fri is that the CPS aren't taking the case, this will fuel Denise, Shirley and Buster to believe in Dean's innocence even more and divide the family further. Dean is angry when he gets out apparently so more chaos will ensue. If Matt is still filming, how long can they realistically keep this going?
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Old 08-04-2015, 15:04
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If this is what is going to happen, this says more about what they're doing with Dean's character than Linda's. In the initial stages of this storyline Matt said that he had worked with the probation service and he found that many men, like Dean, don't think they've done anything wrong. I suppose for dramatic purposes, they'll have Linda being the one to make Dean realise that it was rape. However, would he be free by then or would he confess? I don't know.
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Old 08-04-2015, 16:06
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Dean defintely gets off, I read in soaplife. Plus DTC said that he won't face court. So I imagine that the news next Fri is that the CPS aren't taking the case, this will fuel Denise, Shirley and Buster to believe in Dean's innocence even more and divide the family further. Dean is angry when he gets out apparently so more chaos will ensue. If Matt is still filming, how long can they realistically keep this going?
I hope Dean drives mick and Linda out of walford tbh.
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Old 08-04-2015, 16:07
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I hope Dean drives mick and Linda out of walford tbh.
It would be convenient if he died in custody.
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Old 08-04-2015, 16:14
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It would be convenient if he died in custody.

Despite him being a rapist I still find him a better character then mick and I can't stand mick or linda. They are both stuck up judgemental hypocrites and I can't stand that type of person. Dean needs help but should be punished for his evil crime but I'd still rather watch him over that couple.
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Old 08-04-2015, 16:47
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Despite him being a rapist I still find him a better character then mick and I can't stand mick or linda. They are both stuck up judgemental hypocrites and I can't stand that type of person. Dean needs help but should be punished for his evil crime but I'd still rather watch him over that couple.
I agree.

Some posters seem to think we are driven by Matt's looks but that's not true imo. Keith Rice in Hollyoaks was good looking and yet I despised Finn O Connor. It's all to do with the way the character is written and played.
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Old 08-04-2015, 16:56
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I hope Inside Soaps have made a mistake. A storyline where a rape victim has to convince her rapist that he was wrong would be disgusting and a new low point for EE.
If this is what is going to happen, this says more about what they're doing with Dean's character than Linda's. In the initial stages of this storyline Matt said that he had worked with the probation service and he found that many men, like Dean, don't think they've done anything wrong. I suppose for dramatic purposes, they'll have Linda being the one to make Dean realise that it was rape. However, would he be free by then or would he confess? I don't know.
Victim/Offender confrontations are supposed to be empowering for the victims though and give them a sense of closure. That's partly why there are restorative justice programmes and I'm almost sure Home and Away did something similar.

I remember there were similar confrontations between Finn and JP and Carla and Frank though both Finn and Frank were vile which I don't think that Dean will be. All of Dean's anger seems to come from being in denial and thinking or else convincing himself that Linda is lying about what he thinks was their one night stand though we know and Linda knows it was rape.

I don't have a problem with a Linda/Dean confrontation - In fact it would be quite interesting.
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Old 08-04-2015, 16:58
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Victim/Offender confrontations are supposed to be empowering for the victims though and give them a sense of closure. That's partly why there are restorative justice programmes and I'm almost sure Home and Away did something similar.

I remember there were similar confrontations between Finn and JP and Carla and Frank though both Finn and Frank were vile which I don't think that Dean will be. All of Dean's anger seems to come from being in denial and thinking or else convincing himself that Linda is lying about what he thinks was their one night stand though we know and Linda knows it was rape.

I don't have a problem with a Linda/Dean confrontation - In fact it would be quite interesting.
Dean is as vile as Finn and Frank. The past few months have shown that.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:00
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Dean is as vile as Finn and Frank. The past few months have shown that.
I disagree. Finn and Frank were not shown to love anyone or give a damn about anyone except themselves. We have seen evidence that Dean cares about Denise, Stan and Shirley and while he was in a relationship with Stacey he seemed genuinely caring with her and Lily.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:05
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I hope Dean drives mick and Linda out of walford tbh.
Yeah, nothing is better than a rapist driving his victim out her home and business. God knows she hasn't suffered enough at his hands!
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:17
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I think the outcome will be Dean realises his wrongdoing and Shirley and Buster learn the truth. There has to be a reason why Shirley isn't at Stans funeral
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:20
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Yeah, nothing is better than a rapist driving his victim out her home and business. God knows she hasn't suffered enough at his hands!
It a tv show. Matt is the best actor outbid all of them and I can't stand mick or linda. I'd rather they be off our screen. It would be interesting to see victims driven out for once but that won't happen. Don't get me wrong Dean needs punishment but he can and still be on screen.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:30
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It a tv show. Matt is the best actor outbid all of them and I can't stand mick or linda. I'd rather they be off our screen. It would be interesting to see victims driven out for once but that won't happen. Don't get me wrong Dean needs punishment but he can and still be on screen.
I love how the 'it's just a TV show' line gets bandied about to excuse people's ~controversial views on rape apology and the like. Everyone knows it's a TV show - we watch it four nights a week.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:33
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I think the outcome will be Dean realises his wrongdoing and Shirley and Buster learn the truth. There has to be a reason why Shirley isn't at Stans funeral
But why would learning the truth about Dean stop Shirley going to Stan's funeral?
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:34
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I love how the 'it's just a TV show' line gets bandied about to excuse people's ~controversial views on rape apology and the like. Everyone knows it's a TV show - we watch it four nights a week.
My Point is that Dean is a far more interesting and better played character then mick and Linda. I'd rather keep him then and plus mick and Linda have become dull and boring and get on my nerves. A lot of people just seem to thin that Matt should be axed because of the story and can't remain on screen or liked. Phil and Janine are liked and love to hate character especially with the actors that play then. Dean could be the same. He could stay in prison and remain on screen also as an option.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:42
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I agree that Dean is an interesting character played well by Matt. Kellie shone during the initial aftermarth but Linda has become stale now imo and I much prefer friendly family man Mick to the angry stressed Mick we are now getting.

Prison, rehabilitation and a future with Buster and Shirley would have been my preferred route for Dean even if it meant axing Linda and Mick and possibly Nancy and Lee too.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:43
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I disagree. Finn and Frank were not shown to love anyone or give a damn about anyone except themselves. We have seen evidence that Dean cares about Denise, Stan and Shirley and while he was in a relationship with Stacey he seemed genuinely caring with her and Lily.
Finn cared about his daughter, and he loved Diane and Sinead at least before he become nasty.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:45
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My Point is that Dean is a far more interesting and better played character then mick and Linda. I'd rather keep him then and plus mick and Linda have become dull and boring and get on my nerves. A lot of people just seem to thin that Matt should be axed because of the story and can't remain on screen or liked. Phil and Janine are liked and love to hate character especially with the actors that play then. Dean could be the same. He could stay in prison and remain on screen also as an option.
Except rapists are never "love to hate" characters. Can you name one?

If Phil raped Sharon in tomorrow's episode, he would not be loveable in any way and Janine was liked because she was a panto villain.

Some of the posters here can act like looks are not a factor, but they wouldn't be obsessively defending an ugly rapist. That never happens. Good looking criminals are often defended.
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Old 08-04-2015, 17:59
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Except rapists are never "love to hate" characters. Can you name one?

If Phil raped Sharon in tomorrow's episode, he would not be loveable in any way and Janine was liked because she was a panto villain.

Some of the posters here can act like looks are not a factor, but they wouldn't be obsessively defending an ugly rapist. That never happens. Good looking criminals are often defended.
I have seen nobody defending Dean about what he done to Linda, everyone knows the rape was wrong.

However that doesn't stop Dean being more interesting to watch than Mick and Linda. It just so happens that Villains are often more interesting to watch than the 'good guys'.

Obviously I can't speak for everyone but Deans looks have nothing to do with why I want him to avoid prison, I just think that due to the lack of evidence it would be incredibly contrived if he got convicted for it. I also think Dean is one of the more complex characters on the show so it would be a shame to lose him.
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Old 08-04-2015, 18:07
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Finn cared about his daughter, and he loved Diane and Sinead at least before he become nasty.
True but even then he had an ulterior motive. The bad he did (Beating up Blessing, Raping JP, trying to rape Nancy, lying about JP abusing him in court, threatening to harm Phoebe etc) far outweighed anything else. I'm not sure that Finn did love Diane or Sinead - he may have done before he bullied JP but I definitely remember him yelling at Sinead when he found her on his laptop and he was obviously using and manipulating Diane on the night he tried to rape Nancy. He lied to Diane, Tony and Sinead without compunction and practically demanded a lock on his door (even I was shocked) - He may have loved his daughter but I think he would have been very controlling with her and he certainly turned nasty with Amber when she tried to leave him.

With Dean we have seen him be grateful to Denise for putting a roof over his head, helping to look after Patrick, giving Shirley a hug when she turned up on his doorstep after the Carter family fight, helping Stan when he collapsed, he was kind and caring with Lily and Stacey when in a relationship with Stacey. With Finn I didn't feel any kind of warmth or genuine affection for anyone. Even when he played happy families with Amber and his daughter, he was very controlling.
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Old 08-04-2015, 18:08
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I have seen nobody defending Dean about what he done to Linda, everyone knows the rape was wrong.

However that doesn't stop Dean being more interesting to watch than Mick and Linda. It just so happens that Villains are often more interesting to watch than the 'good guys'.

Obviously I can't speak for everyone but Deans looks have nothing to do with why I want him to avoid prison, I just think that due to the lack of evidence it would be incredibly contrived if he got convicted for it. I also think Dean is one of the more complex characters on the show so it would be a shame to lose him.
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Old 08-04-2015, 18:13
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I have seen nobody defending Dean about what he done to Linda, everyone knows the rape was wrong.

However that doesn't stop Dean being more interesting to watch than Mick and Linda. It just so happens that Villains are often more interesting to watch than the 'good guys'.

Obviously I can't speak for everyone but Deans looks have nothing to do with why I want him to avoid prison, I just think that due to the lack of evidence it would be incredibly contrived if he got convicted for it. I also think Dean is one of the more complex characters on the show so it would be a shame to lose him.
I didn't say they're defending his actions, although some have come up with excuses. I'm talking about the posters who defend him as a person. I truly believe that certain posters wouldn't give a shit about him if he looked like a bulldog. Am I honestly meant to believe that if Phil raped Sharon and then pulled a sad face when his mum didn't believe his lies that I'd see posts like "Phil looks upset "? Seriously

He could come clean about what he's done. It wouldn't be contrived at all if written right.
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