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I don't watch anymore but I wonder if James Sutton regrets returning to be treated like a tw*t
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Well, it's regular work, which is not always easy to come by, but it's probably not very fulfilling.
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Since Esther mother walked out on her and doesn't remember her much and with Sienna having a daughter out there somewhere, it would've made a interesting story if Sienna and Esther were mother and daughter with the age of their characters it wouldn't work or make sense either.
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I don't watch anymore but I wonder if James Sutton regrets returning to be treated like a tw*t
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The show has potential when you read spoilers but then you see it on screen and it's a horrible mess.
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That's horrible of them to do that. Knowing what you went through and to make fun is a tad insensitive. It sounds absolutely hilarious.
Oh most of them don't/didn't know about it, I haven't really told that many people about it. Sorry, I was probably unclear there. But just knowing that I'm very easily startled and trying to scare me to get a response is not so great in itself. Quote:
Dianna Agron. When I see her I'm reminded of being told I would rather be with her and she got in a strop because I wanted to see a movie she was in. I still haven't watches said movie.
Oh, ok. I'm aware of her of course but I've never seen her in anything. That really is horrible, having something you enjoy ruined for you like that. ![]() Quote:
It is good to finally do and see what you want. You have your freedom back and you're not ate up by the negativity and you feel a whole lot better. You have to question why somebody is that insecure they would hurt others. It doesn't help people into liking you. It makes them frightened and why any person would want people to fear them is beyond me.
Exactly. I don't understand it either, any of it. I suppose maybe they feel powerless in their own lives so want to wield power over others, but how can anyone enjoy doing that to people they're supposed to love and watching them cower in fear. There are some very strange, messed up people in this world. Quote:
Definitely. I have had some nurses or doctors treat me as just a number. Somebody they have to see so when you get a nurse or doctor that treats you as a human being it is lovely. You feel closer to them and it helps you deal with whatever medical issue you may have. It's lovely when anyone does that whether it be nurse, doctor, teacher etc.
Same, I've had a fair amount of both really. A couple of years ago I had a fairly major operation (nothing serious though) and was in hospital for 2 days afterwards. I was very foggy, hazy, incredibly nauseous, dizzy, weak, could barely stand, completely out of it, and the nurses were just vile. Really short with me, bossy, rude, totally unsympathetic. I couldn't believe it. Obviously being in that state I wasn't really up to standing up for myself, and my partner had had to go away as his granddad had died suddenly. My mum came to see me but she wasn't and isn't exactly supportive, she pretty much sided with the nurses and criticised me for not feeling up to eating yet and things like that. In the end I just told her to go away as all she did was upset me further. Great. But about a year later in a different hospital I had my gallbladder out and the staff were just lovely and spoke to me like a person. It was a totally different atmosphere, the patients were very friendly too and I felt so much better. Quote:
I am looking forward to this storyline, however weird that sounds given the issue, and the actors involved are talented. My only worry is the writing but Sam assures it will be done really well if slightly over exaggerated so I'm hopeful of a decent storyline.
I am too really. Despite the current state of the show I've got my fingers crossed they'll do a good job with it. It does beggar belief how many McQueens have been victims of rape/sexual abuse, though. I've only heard of Sam and his blog in the last couple of days, I've never read it. What's the name of the blog? Quote:
I'm hoping we get something new and actually see Ste be responsible but when has he ever?
Never, it would certainly be nice to have a change there.
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I am too really. Despite the current state of the show I've got my fingers crossed they'll do a good job with it. It does beggar belief how many McQueens have been victims of rape/sexual abuse, though.
I've only heard of Sam and his blog in the last couple of days, I've never read it. What's the name of the blog? Sam on Tumblr link: http://t.co/Jzd1W1LcCO (Name is: IARESAM:- It features questions from the public & answers from Sam about the show. It has Hollyoaks, births, deaths & marriage info etc.) |
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Sam on Twitter link: https://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rc...90491159,d.ZGU
Sam on Tumblr link: http://t.co/Jzd1W1LcCO (Name is: IARESAM:- It features questions from the public & answers from Sam about the show. It has Hollyoaks, births, deaths & marriage info etc.)
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Same, I've had a fair amount of both really. A couple of years ago I had a fairly major operation (nothing serious though) and was in hospital for 2 days afterwards. I was very foggy, hazy, incredibly nauseous, dizzy, weak, could barely stand, completely out of it, and the nurses were just vile. Really short with me, bossy, rude, totally unsympathetic. I couldn't believe it. Obviously being in that state I wasn't really up to standing up for myself, and my partner had had to go away as his granddad had died suddenly. My mum came to see me but she wasn't and isn't exactly supportive, she pretty much sided with the nurses and criticised me for not feeling up to eating yet and things like that. In the end I just told her to go away as all she did was upset me further. Great. But about a year later in a different hospital I had my gallbladder out and the staff were just lovely and spoke to me like a person. It was a totally different atmosphere, the patients were very friendly too and I felt so much better.
My other nan had Alzheimer's & carer's neglected her. She died a year & a half ago & we found out just before she died that she had full blown cancer as well. Now the carers that were supposed to come morning & evening have to log in what time they come & go, what they do etc.. My uncle would always visit after work, but he noticed when he had time off & visited during the day that no-one came & when next someone did come they wrote in the log that they had been there at the time & date when he knows they hadn't because he was there that day. That's just one instance, I could tell you loads more stuff & neglect that happened & unconcern when complaints were made about it. etc.!! |
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And Nancy is the father who has been in love with Sienna for the last 20 years
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Oh most of them don't/didn't know about it, I haven't really told that many people about it. Sorry, I was probably unclear there. But just knowing that I'm very easily startled and trying to scare me to get a response is not so great in itself.
My mistake. Still horrible that they know how easily you jump by the slightest touch. You'd think they would back off and understand.Quote:
Oh, ok. I'm aware of her of course but I've never seen her in anything. I'm just glad it wasn't other things I enjoy like Buffy or Orphan Black. I've 'just' had Dianna and sports ruined. I was a big football and tennis fan but don't enjoy them now due to her.That really is horrible, having something you enjoy ruined for you like that.
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Exactly. I don't understand it either, any of it. I suppose maybe they feel powerless in their own lives so want to wield power over others, but how can anyone enjoy doing that to people they're supposed to love and watching them cower in fear. There are some very strange, messed up people in this world.
It could be. They feel so insecure and have serious issues but rather than deal with them and get help they prefer to take out on somebody they supposedly love so that person feels as bad them. People are very strange. Luckily we still have a few good people put there.Quote:
Same, I've had a fair amount of both really. A couple of years ago I had a fairly major operation (nothing serious though) and was in hospital for 2 days afterwards. I was very foggy, hazy, incredibly nauseous, dizzy, weak, could barely stand, completely out of it, and the nurses were just vile. Really short with me, bossy, rude, totally unsympathetic. I couldn't believe it. Obviously being in that state I wasn't really up to standing up for myself, and my partner had had to go away as his granddad had died suddenly. My mum came to see me but she wasn't and isn't exactly supportive, she pretty much sided with the nurses and criticised me for not feeling up to eating yet and things like that. In the end I just told her to go away as all she did was upset me further. Great. But about a year later in a different hospital I had my gallbladder out and the staff were just lovely and spoke to me like a person. It was a totally different atmosphere, the patients were very friendly too and I felt so much better.
I'm sorry your experience was so bad You're in hospital feeling rubbish enough so to have staff treat you like dirt makes you feel extra rubbish. You expect them to care and help you get better. As for your mother she just like a nasty woman. You don't need stress while recovering and she sure did her best to dress you out. I'm glad you managed to tell her where to go. I'm also glad your experience in the other hospital was much better. I'm sure that helped your recovery ![]() Quote:
I am too really. Despite the current state of the show I've got my fingers crossed they'll do a good job with it. It does beggar belief how many McQueens have been victims of rape/sexual abuse, though. Kirkwood likes the McQueens too, I think, so he should treat this storyline better than he has with others. It is a bit ridiculous I agree. We have Nana, Jacqui, JP, Phoebe (technically adopted but still) and now Porsche, Celine and Cleo. It is a lot in one family.I've only heard of Sam and his blog in the last couple of days, I've never read it. What's the name of the blog? Quote:
I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience. I've had relatives which were treated badly in hospital. Also have had carers who treated my nans bad when they were alive. One of my nans couldn't speak English, was 100% there mentally but her body was very frail & disintergrating. By looking at her state many carers thought she wasn't there mentally, she tried protesting but they washed her face with the same cloth they had just washed her bottom with, were rough with her that caused her loads more pain in her frail body that persisted hours or days later etc. I was upset & angry when she told me & my mom & she was distressed & said she'd rather die than put up with that treatment. My mom complained & got rid of the carers & was told that they were the best carers they had.
My other nan had Alzheimer's & carer's neglected her. She died a year & a half ago & we found out just before she died that she had full blown cancer as well. Now the carers that were supposed to come morning & evening have to log in what time they come & go, what they do etc.. My uncle would always visit after work, but he noticed when he had time off & visited during the day that no-one came & when next someone did come they wrote in the log that they had been there at the time & date when he knows they hadn't because he was there that day. That's just one instance, I could tell you loads more stuff & neglect that happened & unconcern when complaints were made about it. etc.!! It is horrible hearing about these stories on people being mistreated by people who are supposed to be trained to care and look after others. It makes you wonder why they chose that career if they don't do the job properly. Hearing these stories make me realise how lucky I have been the last 11 years. Aside from the odd doctor or nurse the majority have been lovely. When I was discharged from the transplant clinic one of the consultants told me to hurry and get back cause she'll miss me. However the nurse who took my heart tests was horrible though and was prodding away asking if it hurt. When I said yes she prodded harder. That's real great for the heart. Quote:
Ha ha!
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Good morning
The awesome Sam on Tumblr answered one of my question Here it is: Good afternoon Sam, You know how I really appreciate your blog. I have a question Do the HO staff people that are in charge are aware that viewers don't like McHay and Frindsey? Do they care about the fans opinion ? Because it seems to me that they are doing what they want and the ratings are showing that people are giving up. Answer: Thanks for the lovely comments! ![]() People at the show don’t seem to take constructive criticism very well. If they love something and the viewers don’t, it’s the viewers who are wrong in their eyes. Not a good attitude to have when you’re working in TV. While the general opinion is that McHay don’t work as a couple and Frindsey are a borefest, there are also some fans out there that really do love them. Unfortunately the balance just isn’t right - there shouldn’t be such a divide for these characters/storylines/pairings. It’s natural that there’ll always be some people who dislike certain things but it’s not right at all for there to be a 50/50 divide! Especially when it’s your fickle (over-using that word recently!) audience that love something and your long-term fans that hate it. The fickle fans that the show is being aimed at will move onto the next big thing soon and then what will happen? The showrunners DO listen to the feedback they receive but I think they’re in their own little world and are determined to make the things they personally love work for all of us, hence them being rammed down our throat (in the case of Frindsey). Now obviously the overnight ratings are down considerably from even this time a year ago (and even then the show wasn’t very enjoyable) but apparently Channel 4 are still very happy with the show. I’m not sure why as it could be so much better. I think Channel 4 must be most pleased with On Demand ratings to be honest. A lot of the show pays for itself now thanks to product placement deals, long-term sponsorships and advertisements. I think the show has perhaps lost it’s identity and got caught in a vicious circle of feeling like it has to “better” each shock twist, and the obsession with shocking the audience even if things don’t make sense has gone a bit too far. Maybe the show has to lower our expectations sufficiently so that when it does return to an ‘OK’ standard we’re all impressed again? XD On a side note, I wouldn’t be opposed to them dropping the First Look airing - although I think E4 would be sad to lose it as it frequently tops the day’s multichannel ratings. I wouldn’t want it to air solely on E4 though, that’d definitely be the beginning of the end! |
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I'm sorry to hear of your bad experience. I've had relatives which were treated badly in hospital. Also have had carers who treated my nans bad when they were alive. One of my nans couldn't speak English, was 100% there mentally but her body was very frail & disintergrating. By looking at her state many carers thought she wasn't there mentally, she tried protesting but they washed her face with the same cloth they had just washed her bottom with, were rough with her that caused her loads more pain in her frail body that persisted hours or days later etc. I was upset & angry when she told me & my mom & she was distressed & said she'd rather die than put up with that treatment. My mom complained & got rid of the carers & was told that they were the best carers they had.
My other nan had Alzheimer's & carer's neglected her. She died a year & a half ago & we found out just before she died that she had full blown cancer as well. Now the carers that were supposed to come morning & evening have to log in what time they come & go, what they do etc.. My uncle would always visit after work, but he noticed when he had time off & visited during the day that no-one came & when next someone did come they wrote in the log that they had been there at the time & date when he knows they hadn't because he was there that day. That's just one instance, I could tell you loads more stuff & neglect that happened & unconcern when complaints were made about it. etc.!!
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That's absolutely heartbreaking, Marianne. I'm so sorry.
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Oh. It's okay
My mistake. Still horrible that they know how easily you jump by the slightest touch. You'd think they would back off and understand.Sometimes I even flinch away from my partner when he goes to hug me. I don't know why really, he's never done anything to hurt me and never would, I just can't seem to fully lose the fear of people moving towards me. Quote:
I'm just glad it wasn't other things I enjoy like Buffy or Orphan Black. I've 'just' had Dianna and sports ruined. I was a big football and tennis fan but don't enjoy them now due to her.
I love Buffy too. I guess the only "good" thing is at least more things haven't been spoiled for you but it's bad enough that anything was. As if she hadn't caused enough harm already. ![]() Quote:
It could be. They feel so insecure and have serious issues but rather than deal with them and get help they prefer to take out on somebody they supposedly love so that person feels as bad them. People are very strange. Luckily we still have a few good people put there.
Yeah, that sounds about right. I don't get how people can do that and not feel awful for the harm they cause, though. Oh yeah, of course. I do think they're in a pretty big minority, sadly, but I'm very grateful for the good people I've found. Quote:
I'm sorry your experience was so bad Thanks. Yeah, exactly. I was just staggered that they were like that to me, especially when I was feeling so vulnerable. You're in hospital feeling rubbish enough so to have staff treat you like dirt makes you feel extra rubbish. You expect them to care and help you get better. As for your mother she just like a nasty woman. You don't need stress while recovering and she sure did her best to dress you out. I'm glad you managed to tell her where to go. I'm also glad your experience in the other hospital was much better. I'm sure that helped your recovery
She is really. I don't even think she necessarily means to be, she just has no idea how to behave and doesn't understand the implications of her words and actions at all. Thankyou. It was a much easier op to recover from physically as well, so that helped. I was feeling pretty much ok by the next day, just had a bit of soreness in the wounds but it was pretty mild. Huge contrast with the first one, it took me months to feel normal again after that. Quote:
It is horrible hearing about these stories on people being mistreated by people who are supposed to be trained to care and look after others. It makes you wonder why they chose that career if they don't do the job properly. God, what a horrid nurse. She sounds like a bit of a sadist. Even if for some reason she had to be rough with you she could at least explain that and apologise.
Hearing these stories make me realise how lucky I have been the last 11 years. Aside from the odd doctor or nurse the majority have been lovely. When I was discharged from the transplant clinic one of the consultants told me to hurry and get back cause she'll miss me. However the nurse who took my heart tests was horrible though and was prodding away asking if it hurt. When I said yes she prodded harder. That's real great for the heart. |
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Sorry to hear about the treatment your nans received, how awful. It's terrible how some so called carers treat the elderly, wtf. It seems there really needs to be greater inspection and regulation of their care. How can people go into caring professions when they clearly don't care at all?
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I'm sorry to hear about your nans
It is horrible hearing about these stories on people being mistreated by people who are supposed to be trained to care and look after others. It makes you wonder why they chose that career if they don't do the job properly. Hearing these stories make me realise how lucky I have been the last 11 years. Aside from the odd doctor or nurse the majority have been lovely. When I was discharged from the transplant clinic one of the consultants told me to hurry and get back cause she'll miss me. However the nurse who took my heart tests was horrible though and was prodding away asking if it hurt. When I said yes she prodded harder. That's real great for the heart. Quote:
That's absolutely heartbreaking, Marianne. I'm so sorry.
![]() I do think some carers do the job to get money & don't give a stuff about the vulnerable person they're supposed to look after. Prefer to do the minimal & get irritated with the person or abusive if they don't think they are co-operating, maybe they think the elderly person is too slow to do things or get a power trip from being abusive. Patience is needed in a job like that. I dread to think of the vulnerable with dementia who get abused & can't remember to say anything about an incident. I had one nan with that & another who didn't. The one who didn't was abused & told me, because of her frailty I think carers & nurses when at the hospital assumed they could man handle her & she wouldn't say anything, but she told us. My mom complained but it's our word against there's & they didn't want to do anything. |
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The awesome Sam on Tumblr answered one of my question Here it is: Good afternoon Sam, You know how I really appreciate your blog. I have a question Do the HO staff people that are in charge are aware that viewers don't like McHay and Frindsey? Do they care about the fans opinion ? Because it seems to me that they are doing what they want and the ratings are showing that people are giving up. Answer: Thanks for the lovely comments! ![]() People at the show don’t seem to take constructive criticism very well. If they love something and the viewers don’t, it’s the viewers who are wrong in their eyes. Not a good attitude to have when you’re working in TV. While the general opinion is that McHay don’t work as a couple and Frindsey are a borefest, there are also some fans out there that really do love them. Unfortunately the balance just isn’t right - there shouldn’t be such a divide for these characters/storylines/pairings. It’s natural that there’ll always be some people who dislike certain things but it’s not right at all for there to be a 50/50 divide! Especially when it’s your fickle (over-using that word recently!) audience that love something and your long-term fans that hate it. The fickle fans that the show is being aimed at will move onto the next big thing soon and then what will happen? The showrunners DO listen to the feedback they receive but I think they’re in their own little world and are determined to make the things they personally love work for all of us, hence them being rammed down our throat (in the case of Frindsey). Now obviously the overnight ratings are down considerably from even this time a year ago (and even then the show wasn’t very enjoyable) but apparently Channel 4 are still very happy with the show. I’m not sure why as it could be so much better. I think Channel 4 must be most pleased with On Demand ratings to be honest. A lot of the show pays for itself now thanks to product placement deals, long-term sponsorships and advertisements. I think the show has perhaps lost it’s identity and got caught in a vicious circle of feeling like it has to “better” each shock twist, and the obsession with shocking the audience even if things don’t make sense has gone a bit too far. Maybe the show has to lower our expectations sufficiently so that when it does return to an ‘OK’ standard we’re all impressed again? XD On a side note, I wouldn’t be opposed to them dropping the First Look airing - although I think E4 would be sad to lose it as it frequently tops the day’s multichannel ratings. I wouldn’t want it to air solely on E4 though, that’d definitely be the beginning of the end! ![]() I always wondered why the team were insistent on things viewers don't like. Now we know why. I find it believable they don't listen but it's a pretty shit attitude to have given without viewer there would be no show. Quote:
You would think so really but it seems not.
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I love Buffy too. I guess the only "good" thing is at least more things haven't been spoiled for you but it's bad enough that anything was. As if she hadn't caused enough harm already. I know. It's one of those things where you go at least it wasn't so and so but then you have the damage already done. It's a 50/50 scenario.
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Yeah, that sounds about right. I don't get how people can do that and not feel awful for the harm they cause, though. I guess to understand we have to be in their mind or be like them which no thank you. People annoy at times but I'd never hurt them.Oh yeah, of course. I do think they're in a pretty big minority, sadly, but I'm very grateful for the good people I've found. Quote:
Thanks. Yeah, exactly. I was just staggered that they were like that to me, especially when I was feeling so vulnerable. She is really. I don't even think she necessarily means to be, she just has no idea how to behave and doesn't understand the implications of her words and actions at all. Thankyou. It was a much easier op to recover from physically as well, so that helped. I was feeling pretty much ok by the next day, just had a bit of soreness in the wounds but it was pretty mild. Huge contrast with the first one, it took me months to feel normal again after that. It makes you wonder why some people train in a profession if they have no idea how to behave in that field. My mum is a it like that. She speaks without thinking and can be hurtful though does apologise afterwards so it isn't bad. Something tells me your mum doesn't take responsibility for her actions and she's always right. Apologies if u said too much. I'm glad everything went okay both times excluding the lack of care in the first hospital. Quote:
God, what a horrid nurse. She sounds like a bit of a sadist. Even if for some reason she had to be rough with you she could at least explain that and apologise.
It was near lunchtime so u think she wanted to hurry up so she could go. Best thing is it was that thing they use with the jelly they use on pregnant women so she had no reason to be rough.
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God, Sinead and Diane are both just so self entitled and awful.
"I want Ste" so she feels she has a right to him despite him being married to somebody else and gay. "I want both my daughtes" so she has a right to both and poor old Tegan can get stuffed who also gave birth to a baby girl. I hate them, hate them, hate them both. |
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Thank you everyone so much for your kind words.
![]() I do think some carers do the job to get money & don't give a stuff about the vulnerable person they're supposed to look after. Prefer to do the minimal & get irritated with the person or abusive if they don't think they are co-operating, maybe they think the elderly person is too slow to do things or get a power trip from being abusive. Patience is needed in a job like that. I dread to think of the vulnerable with dementia who get abused & can't remember to say anything about an incident. I had one nan with that & another who didn't. The one who didn't was abused & told me, because of her frailty I think carers & nurses when at the hospital assumed they could man handle her & she wouldn't say anything, but she told us. My mom complained but it's our word against there's & they didn't want to do anything. I dread to think how elderly people are treated especially those, as you say, with dementia or other problems where they have to rely on a person. I couldn't be a nurse or ccarer. Not because I don't want to but because it is a lot of responsibility and work. I have full respect for those that do that kind of work and so it properly. It must be tough at times. |
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It's understandable after all you went through. Sometimes it's the small things that make us nervous especially something that reminds us of that situation.
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I know. It's one of those things where you go at least it wasn't so and so but then you have the damage already done. It's a 50/50 scenario.
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I guess to understand we have to be in their mind or be like them which no thank you. People annoy at times but I'd never hurt them.
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It makes you wonder why some people train in a profession if they have no idea how to behave in that field. My mum is a it like that. She speaks without thinking and can be hurtful though does apologise afterwards so it isn't bad. Something tells me your mum doesn't take responsibility for her actions and she's always right. Apologies if u said too much. It does. I guess everyone probably does that sometimes. It can still be hard to deal with even when you know the person doesn't mean any harm, though. I'm glad everything went okay both times excluding the lack of care in the first hospital. No, she certainly doesn't. Usually if I tried to (very calmly and gently) explain what she'd done that was problematic she'd just blank me completely. If I tried again she'd complain about how whiny I was, so I gave up. Oh no not at all, say whatever you like. I could probably rant and rave about her and my dad for the rest of time, heh. Thanks. The second op was last September so I'm all healed and back to normal now. Quote:
It was near lunchtime so u think she wanted to hurry up so she could go. Best thing is it was that thing they use with the jelly they use on pregnant women so she had no reason to be rough.
Sounds reasonable, hurting someone else because she's hungry.
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True. It's just frustrating really.
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Yeah, of course. I guess all you can do is try to focus on the better 50.
That's true. The good does help outweigh the bad. It's just sad some things you no longer can enjoy.Quote:
Oh absolutely, I guess it'd be worrying if we did understand.
If we understood we'd be just like them. Hate attracts hate. I'd never want to live with so much hate and anger that it eats me up inside. That in itself sounds exhausting.Quote:
It does. I guess everyone probably does that sometimes. It can still be hard to deal with even when you know the person doesn't mean any harm, though. To my knowledge I have never intentionally hurt anybody but I'm sure I have with my words without thinking. I do try my best to treat people hoe I would like to be treated but we all have off days where you feel all aaargh!!!! No, she certainly doesn't. Usually if I tried to (very calmly and gently) explain what she'd done that was problematic she'd just blank me completely. If I tried again she'd complain about how whiny I was, so I gave up. Oh no not at all, say whatever you like. I could probably rant and rave about her and my dad for the rest of time, heh. Thanks. The second op was last September so I'm all healed and back to normal now. Rant away anytime you feel like it It can help and we'll be happy to listen.What was the first for? Apologies if you don't want to say and I'm being nosey. Quote:
Sounds reasonable, hurting someone else because she's hungry. Haha I know. How dare I hold her up.
Hoping tomorrow I get a nice doctor or nurse as I have yet another procedure, I've lost count now how many I've had in the last 4 months, so I'm a little nervous about that. Still before that I may see Hot Bella so she'll cheer me up beforehand
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I'd say so. I get jumpy if I hear a bang or any type of noise or worry what I say will be made fun of or criticised. Here I don't have that worry so can be myself and relax.
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If we understood we'd be just like them. Hate attracts hate. I'd never want to live with so much hate and anger that it eats me up inside. That in itself sounds exhausting.
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To my knowledge I have never intentionally hurt anybody but I'm sure I have with my words without thinking. I do try my best to treat people hoe I would like to be treated but we all have off days where you feel all aaargh!!!! Oh yeah, I meant unintentionally. Aye, with the best will in the world it's bound to happen sometime. Rant away anytime you feel like it It can help and we'll be happy to listen.What was the first for? Apologies if you don't want to say and I'm being nosey. Thanks. Oh no it's fine. I don't tend to volunteer the information but I don't mind being asked. I had a gastric sleeve. It involves removing around 80% of the stomach. Quote:
Haha I know. How dare I hold her up. Oh, as in dialysis or something else? I hope it goes well and that you do see her.
Hoping tomorrow I get a nice doctor or nurse as I have yet another procedure, I've lost count now how many I've had in the last 4 months, so I'm a little nervous about that. Still before that I may see Hot Bella so she'll cheer me up beforehand
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Aww, I guess it's no wonder. Hopefully that will fade as time goes on, though.
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For sure. Why give them the satisfaction of poisoning your attitude too.
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Oh yeah, I meant unintentionally. Aye, with the best will in the world it's bound to happen sometime. Definitely. We have all done it one time or another.Thanks. Oh no it's fine. I don't tend to volunteer the information but I don't mind being asked. I had a gastric sleeve. It involves removing around 80% of the stomach. Ooh that sounds painful. Are you feeling okay now? Quote:
Oh, as in dialysis or something else? I hope it goes well and that you do see her.
Something else. I have venous hypertension in my arm which means pressure on the veins. I need to see angiography to fix it as my veins are lumpy and I have bad circulation so blood isn't travelling well which makes my hand go cold and a purple colour. I'll know more tomorrow but for now I'm getting dye injected and a wire to find the extent of the problem and if I need any narrowing on my veins.Thank you I hope so too. Seeing my nurse will just be a bonus.
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I've naturally been jumpy but I'm that little bit worse now. It is. Here you're around nice people and they do make me laugh. It's nice finding people with the same kind of mind and crazy as you.
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Exactly. I'm crazy but just the right amount haha.
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Definitely. We have all done it one time or another. Yeah it was really. I wasn't quite prepared for how drastic the whole thing was, I had a really miserable few months, but I'm fine now. I can't eat very much but otherwise back to normal. Ooh that sounds painful. Are you feeling okay now? Quote:
Something else. I have venous hypertension in my arm which means pressure on the veins. I need to see angiography to fix it as my veins are lumpy and I have bad circulation so blood isn't travelling well which makes my hand go cold and a purple colour. I'll know morettomorrow but for now I'm getting dye injected and a wire to find the extent of the problem and if I need any narrowing on my veins. That sounds painful, is it serious? I hope they can sort it out quickly in any case.
Thank you I hope so too. Seeing my nurse will just be a bonus.
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That's understandable after your experiences. Weirdly enough I've been getting worse in recent times, even though I've been "free" for a few years now.
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Yeah it was really. I wasn't quite prepared for how drastic the whole thing was, I had a really miserable few months, but I'm fine now. I can't eat very much but otherwise back to normal.
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That sounds painful, is it serious? I hope they can sort it out quickly in any case.
I don't know how big the procedure is but I know when my hand gets cold it can be very sore. Affected my arm now too as I've had pain since last Tuesday. Hopefully get it sorted one way or another later.
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