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Old 10-04-2015, 19:38
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To keep costs as low as possible, I suggest filming it similar to usa daytime soaps, @ a rate of 3 episodes per day [15 episodes a week] between normal working hours 9 to 5.

All 250 episodes could be filmed in just 17 weeks, thus cutting the cost for crew and actors, the key is great characters and storylines, nothing else matters.

I estimate it could be made for as little as £4 million.
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Old 10-04-2015, 19:51
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To keep costs as low as possible, I suggest filming it similar to usa daytime soaps, @ a rate of 3 episodes per day [15 episodes a week] between normal working hours 9 to 5.

All 250 episodes could be filmed in just 17 weeks, thus cutting the cost for crew and actors, the key is great characters and storylines, nothing else matters.

I estimate it could be made for as little as £4 million.
well if they do one, they shouldn't copy the US soaps because there production schedule has come under fire recently. Days of Our Lives shoot their episodes about 6 months in advance which means by time it airs if the audience doesn't respond well to the story there is nothing that can be done. If money is the big issue I would suggest that the new soap make sure they have some presence in other countries as well because that can be a big money maker.
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Old 10-04-2015, 19:51
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Broadcasting it during the day would also keep ratings as low as possible.
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Old 10-04-2015, 19:56
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There is no room for one. BBC1 has Doctors which rates very well.
FIVE has Neighbours and Home and away.

All Daytime soaps (Or soaps in general) that launched since Doctors back in 2000 has flopped. Out of the blue, The Royal Today (Night and Day & Echo Beach)

Doctors is very cheap for the BBC and fills up 5 episodes a week for almost all year rates well and gets a bigger audience share than a lot of primetime BBC1 and ITV
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Old 10-04-2015, 20:10
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Broadcasting it during the day would also keep ratings as low as possible.
Daytime ratings are always low, they key is the share of viewers, itv look for at least 20%
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Old 10-04-2015, 20:18
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Hate to say this - but soaps passed their prime in the late 80's!
We only continue the UK soaps through habit and tradition! The U.S. gave up on them years ago! So did Australia.

I'd love to see repeats of Sons & Daughters in an afternoon though!
And repeats of Knots Landing and Falcon Crest!
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Old 10-04-2015, 20:36
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I would like the BBC the repeat Doctors and River City from the beginning.
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Old 10-04-2015, 22:15
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With less and less housewives sitting at home watching the telly daytime ratings will continue to decline, its mainly due to demographic and social changes that ratings are so much lower than say 20 years ago.
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Old 10-04-2015, 22:32
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They should buy Ireland's 'Red Rock' to air in the UK but afternoon scheduling would mean so many miss out. It's an absolutely AMAZING show.
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Old 10-04-2015, 23:00
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They need another success like neighbours was when it first started. Shame no other country is making decent soap operas at the moment.
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Old 10-04-2015, 23:51
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They need another success like neighbours was when it first started. Shame no other country is making decent soap operas at the moment.
They are - Ireland's 'Red Rock'.
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Old 10-04-2015, 23:56
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They need another success like neighbours was when it first started. Shame no other country is making decent soap operas at the moment.
Ireland's Red Rock is pretty darn good at the moment.
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Old 11-04-2015, 00:22
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They should buy Ireland's 'Red Rock' to air in the UK but afternoon scheduling would mean so many miss out. It's an absolutely AMAZING show.
A post in the Broadcasting Ireland thread on here suggested Viacom could be interested in TV3 which could in theory bring Red Rock to Channel 5. Don't know how legit that rumour was.
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Old 11-04-2015, 00:50
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The soaps we have now are barely keeping their heads above water as it is. The ratings for soaps are constantly dropping more and more after each decade. Corrie back in the 90s was managing 18 million viewers, now they are lucky to scrape 8m. Same with Eastenders, now it's really only people watching out of habit for Corrie, EE and Emmerdale. Neighbours, Hollyoaks and H&A are now relying on the younger audience to watch their pretty but utterly useless actors. The fact is nobody is interested in soaps anymore.

Also, more women are going out to work and that means less people have the time to watch daytime telly. I don't watch Doctors etc unless I'm at home sick and there's nothing else on.
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Old 11-04-2015, 04:27
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If the BBC wants to save money, network River City in the whole of the UK
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Old 11-04-2015, 08:34
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The soaps we have now are barely keeping their heads above water as it is. The ratings for soaps are constantly dropping more and more after each decade. Corrie back in the 90s was managing 18 million viewers, now they are lucky to scrape 8m. Same with Eastenders, now it's really only people watching out of habit for Corrie, EE and Emmerdale. Neighbours, Hollyoaks and H&A are now relying on the younger audience to watch their pretty but utterly useless actors. The fact is nobody is interested in soaps anymore.

Also, more women are going out to work and that means less people have the time to watch daytime telly. I don't watch Doctors etc unless I'm at home sick and there's nothing else on.
Back in the 90s there was no catch up TV, digital recording etc. That is why the ratings were so high - people actually watched it 'live' so to speak. Now there are so many ways for people to watch at a day and time that suits them rather than watching it 'live' . Because of the time I get home from work I very rarely watch soaps 'live' - I have them set to series record and watch them later in the evening.

As for nobody being interested in soaps any more, that's just laughable.
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Old 11-04-2015, 09:29
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Hate to say this - but soaps passed their prime in the late 80's!
We only continue the UK soaps through habit and tradition! The U.S. gave up on them years ago! So did Australia.

I'd love to see repeats of Sons & Daughters in an afternoon though!
And repeats of Knots Landing and Falcon Crest!
Actually, the ratings for all USA soaps are up 28% as Americans have grown tired of talk shows which have been axed.
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Old 11-04-2015, 10:59
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Since the 80's, ITV tried their best to launch a successful homegrown daytime soap but none of them lasted any more than a few years so you can't really blame them for throwing in the towel and sticking with gameshows and talk shows.

Red Rock is great but the problem with it is that it only airs two episodes a week. I can't imagine BBC or Channel 4 airing it and ITV and Five's daytime schedules are mostly made up of the same programmes at the same time, stripped across the schedule, five days a week. There's no room to stick a random programme in that will only air twice a week. I suppose they could wait until episodes had built up a bit and air the show in blocks, taking breaks in between.
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Old 11-04-2015, 11:36
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Back in the 90s there was no catch up TV, digital recording etc. That is why the ratings were so high - people actually watched it 'live' so to speak. Now there are so many ways for people to watch at a day and time that suits them rather than watching it 'live' . Because of the time I get home from work I very rarely watch soaps 'live' - I have them set to series record and watch them later in the evening.

As for nobody being interested in soaps any more, that's just laughable.
Oh come on, you can't be telling me that another 10m people are watching on iPlayer, catch up etc. Fair enough you might get another 2-5m people not watching 'live' but ratings still have dropped majorly in the passed decade.

Nobody watching was an exaggeration but people are getting less interested as stories start to get repetitive, also less and less people have the time to watch soaps these days as soaps are churning out more episodes than the 80s etc. I only watch Corrie as I don't have the time to watch 6 episodes of Emmerdale.
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Old 11-04-2015, 12:12
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Since the 80's, ITV tried their best to launch a successful homegrown daytime soap but none of them lasted any more than a few years so you can't really blame them for throwing in the towel and sticking with gameshows and talk shows.
I don't think they have. In the main, ITV's homegrown daytime soaps have been poorly conceived. Crossroads 2001 was getting very good audience share in the 5pm slot, but greedy ITV wanted a couple of hundred thousand more viewers, and paid the price for it. Night And Day was just too weird for ITV and a flawed concept. So I reject the notion that ITV have really 'tried' at all.
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Old 11-04-2015, 13:04
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Oh come on, you can't be telling me that another 10m people are watching on iPlayer, catch up etc. Fair enough you might get another 2-5m people not watching 'live' but ratings still have dropped majorly in the passed decade.

Nobody watching was an exaggeration but people are getting less interested as stories start to get repetitive, also less and less people have the time to watch soaps these days as soaps are churning out more episodes than the 80s etc. I only watch Corrie as I don't have the time to watch 6 episodes of Emmerdale.
I don't hardly watch any live TV, I record everything I want to watch and then watch it when I'm ready to. I get home around 8 and it's usually 9 before I settle down to watch. I watch ED during the week and EE at the weekend, I stopped watching CS a couple of years ago Partly because recordings were building up and partly because of the S/Ls and some characters. I only watched doctors if it was on at work during lunch.
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Old 11-04-2015, 14:33
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I don't think they have. In the main, ITV's homegrown daytime soaps have been poorly conceived. Crossroads 2001 was getting very good audience share in the 5pm slot, but greedy ITV wanted a couple of hundred thousand more viewers, and paid the price for it. Night And Day was just too weird for ITV and a flawed concept. So I reject the notion that ITV have really 'tried' at all.
They may have made a mess of Crossroads but they have launched five daytime soaps in comparison to the BBC's two soaps during the same period (Doctors, Out of the Blue) and Channel 4 and Five's no soaps, so they have made the most attempts at cracking the daytime soap market. Imported soaps have always done better for ITV so they should try to relaunch Shortland Street. I know it flopped when Living tried to bring it back a few years ago but on a terrestrial channel it might build a bigger audience.
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Old 11-04-2015, 15:01
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They may have made a mess of Crossroads but they have launched five daytime soaps in comparison to the BBC's two soaps during the same period (Doctors, Out of the Blue) and Channel 4 and Five's no soaps, so they have made the most attempts at cracking the daytime soap market. Imported soaps have always done better for ITV so they should try to relaunch Shortland Street. I know it flopped when Living tried to bring it back a few years ago but on a terrestrial channel it might build a bigger audience.
Five? I can only recall Families, Crossroads and Night & Day. Please not Shortland Street! That is a truly dreadful show.
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Old 11-04-2015, 15:52
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Five? I can only recall Families, Crossroads and Night & Day. Please not Shortland Street! That is a truly dreadful show.
ITV also launched The Royal Today which was axed and I seem to recall reading somewhere that they were planning on launching a police style soap, but I'm not sure whether that's been shelved.

Daytime soaps cost money - it's far easier for any channel to launch a quiz/cookery/talk show for a quarter of the cost and then repeat it. After trying and failing to launch a successful soap, it's no wonder that the channels are hesitant. However, as everybody leads such a busy life and there is so much choice out there, I don't think that people have the time to invest in a new soap.
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Old 11-04-2015, 15:56
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The only way Red Rock could work in the UK is if it aired on BBC 1. Minus ads it would be 25 mins in length so it could air on a Monday and Tuesday and the BBC could network River city on a Wed, Thurs and Friday and show it in 20 minute eps and fill the extra 5 mins with a filler like Coast.

It could air like this

1.45 doctors
2.15 mon & Tues - Red Rock
Wed - Fri - River City followed by 5 min filler
2.40
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