Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Seeing is believing and I see a real mouth.”
“Seeing is believing and I see a real mouth.”
Aww bless.
It wasn't real. *kiss*
Talking dog
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Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“That looks like a real mouth to me.”
“That looks like a real mouth to me.”
..I've got a bridge to sell you
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Seeing is believing and I see a real mouth.”
“Seeing is believing and I see a real mouth.”
Hi..if you zoom in on it, you can actually see it and its not real
Originally Posted by Orangemaid:
“Hi..if you zoom in on it, you can actually see it and its not real”
“Hi..if you zoom in on it, you can actually see it and its not real”
I have and it looks real to me.
Originally Posted by Orangemaid:
“Hi..if you zoom in on it, you can actually see it and its not real”
“Hi..if you zoom in on it, you can actually see it and its not real”
I have and it looks real to me.
Originally Posted by Grumpy_Alan:
“Teaching animals, any animals, to do something that is not natural to them is a very questionable activity, and should only be done for very clear and specific purposes. Entertainment is not one of them.
However, I will accept that you are probably one of the 45% of the population that thinks that dogs, (other than "working" dogs, such as guide dogs, sheep dogs, sniffer dogs and the like), are wonderful wonderful creatures that everyone must, without question, adore and praise at every opportunity.
You may have your opinion, but then, so do I but, unlike you, I try to express it without being insulting to others.”
“Teaching animals, any animals, to do something that is not natural to them is a very questionable activity, and should only be done for very clear and specific purposes. Entertainment is not one of them.
However, I will accept that you are probably one of the 45% of the population that thinks that dogs, (other than "working" dogs, such as guide dogs, sheep dogs, sniffer dogs and the like), are wonderful wonderful creatures that everyone must, without question, adore and praise at every opportunity.
You may have your opinion, but then, so do I but, unlike you, I try to express it without being insulting to others.”
Ashley won BGT and Pudsey has a movie??
Originally Posted by Orangemaid:
“the guy was French, so i expect he does it in his country for any guests or holiday makers
he probably goes on his tv and does the same thing in front of millions of viewers”
“the guy was French, so i expect he does it in his country for any guests or holiday makers
he probably goes on his tv and does the same thing in front of millions of viewers”
I suspect he's just a normal ventriloquist, who has a connection at Syco, who called him up, sent him a recording of Todd Oliver and his talking dog from America's Got Talent, and then asked him "can you get a dog and do this on BGT?"
He's French for the same reason that most of the ringer acts have been foreign. When Syco wants to dummy up an act like this based on AGT, they don't want to fish in their normal pool of British talent, because it's easier to claim it's some exotic foreign act that showed up at BGT's doorstep if they haven't been performing a totally different act locally that can be more easily checked on.
Originally Posted by Taintedmeat:
“That poor dog was clearly petrified o have a feeling the owner hits him.
What a disgusting man”
“That poor dog was clearly petrified o have a feeling the owner hits him.
What a disgusting man”
Come off it. The dog didn't look petrified at all.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Come off it. The dog didn't look petrified at all.”
“Come off it. The dog didn't look petrified at all.”
She was shaking like a leaf and eyes were bulging out
They explained this on This Morning today, it is a mask. Ashley (of Pudsey fame) was there for the BGT discussion item and didn't seem too happy about the dog's welfare despite Holden insisting that they take great care of animals on the show.
Originally Posted by Hitstastic:
“That dog is really well trained to be able to just sit there and not bark once, whilst having some device covering its mouth.
Would be funny if they were on the live semi finals and either the device broke, or the dog had a sudden case of stage fright and starting barking rendering the whole act null and void.
To hear Simon say "i don't know how you made that dog talk" is one of the most embarrassing things I've seen recently. Either Simon is seriously thick, or he knows just how thick the public are and would genuinely believe the dog was talking.
Sadly I fear the latter is more accurate.
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“That dog is really well trained to be able to just sit there and not bark once, whilst having some device covering its mouth.
Would be funny if they were on the live semi finals and either the device broke, or the dog had a sudden case of stage fright and starting barking rendering the whole act null and void.
To hear Simon say "i don't know how you made that dog talk" is one of the most embarrassing things I've seen recently. Either Simon is seriously thick, or he knows just how thick the public are and would genuinely believe the dog was talking.
Sadly I fear the latter is more accurate.
”
I didn't see the show but my friend did, and she told me about a brilliant talking dog. So she must have thought it was genuine
Originally Posted by Taintedmeat:
“She was shaking like a leaf and eyes were bulging out”
“She was shaking like a leaf and eyes were bulging out”
What?
I watched the show on Saturday and she wasn't shaking or bulging at all. And yes, I was definitely watching in HD.
I thought it was a rubbish act. A lot of people here seem to think it was cruel...I don't really think it was neccessarily cruel. I just thought it was rubbish and unfunny. It was so obvious that there was some sort of mouth piece over the dogs mouth. It wasn't done very well at all. How on earth can people seriously believe that the dog was talking/opening his mouth like that? Seriously?! Also, as other people here have already mentioned, Simon is an absolute liar as the same act has appeared on America's Got Talent...which he produces.
Originally Posted by AoibheannRose:
“They explained this on This Morning today, it is a mask. Ashley (of Pudsey fame) was there for the BGT discussion item and didn't seem too happy about the dog's welfare despite Holden insisting that they take great care of animals on the show.”
“They explained this on This Morning today, it is a mask. Ashley (of Pudsey fame) was there for the BGT discussion item and didn't seem too happy about the dog's welfare despite Holden insisting that they take great care of animals on the show.”
There wasn't much she could say as I don't doubt that Simon is a powerful influence on her success. But like myself, she was unsure about the ethics of this act. We all have our opinions based on what we saw, but we don't know for sure whether or not Wendy is uncomfortable wearing this prosthesis.
Originally Posted by Patti-Ann:
“I didn't see the show but my friend did, and she told me about a brilliant talking dog. So she must have thought it was genuine”
“I didn't see the show but my friend did, and she told me about a brilliant talking dog. So she must have thought it was genuine
”
Initially I was very amused by it and tried to work out how it was done, but my pleasure was spoilt by discovering that the dog was wearing a prostheis. Now the 'secret' is out, is there any point to this act?
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“What?
I watched the show on Saturday and she wasn't shaking or bulging at all. And yes, I was definitely watching in HD.”
“What?
I watched the show on Saturday and she wasn't shaking or bulging at all. And yes, I was definitely watching in HD.”
In view of all of this poster's responses Dalekbuster is clearly in denial. <rolls eyes>
The close up of Wendy further up thread clearly shows the prosthesis, those plastic teeth are a really poor fake on close inspection, although from a distance, they looked pretty good. It was an amusing act untill we heard about the prosthesis.
I don't think the dog was shaking, but i wasn't happy about the position of the tail, it looked really odd, and it wasn't wagging. Most performing dogs who enjoy what they are doing wag their tails continuously - watch the little dog that kept chasing Ant.
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“How on earth can people seriously believe that the dog was talking/opening his mouth like that? Seriously?! .”
“How on earth can people seriously believe that the dog was talking/opening his mouth like that? Seriously?! .”
Given how dogs can be trained to dance, it's not much of a stretch of logic to assume they can be trained to open and close their mouths at the right points.
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“Also, as other people here have already mentioned, Simon is an absolute liar as the same act has appeared on America's Got Talent...which he produces”
“Also, as other people here have already mentioned, Simon is an absolute liar as the same act has appeared on America's Got Talent...which he produces”
I doubt he watches every act. Just because he's a producer on the show doesn't mean he watches the entire thing.
Originally Posted by daisydee:
“The close up of Wendy further up thread clearly shows the prosthesis, those plastic teeth are a really poor fake on close inspection”
“The close up of Wendy further up thread clearly shows the prosthesis, those plastic teeth are a really poor fake on close inspection”
The teeth don't look plastic at all to me. The dog's mouth looks just as real as mine (which is real).
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“Given how dogs can be trained to dance, it's not much of a stretch of logic to assume they can be trained to open and close their mouths at the right points.”
“Given how dogs can be trained to dance, it's not much of a stretch of logic to assume they can be trained to open and close their mouths at the right points.”
Really? I think it's a huge stretch of logic. There are many dancing dogs but I can't think of a single talking dog who can open and close his mouth at the exact time its owner speaks and there's online videos showing any dog doing it either. It's absolutely ridiculous to think it could happen and I do wonder about the sanity of the viewers who watched it and actually believed it was real/believe a sog could be traiend to do it.
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“I doubt he watches every act. Just because he's a producer on the show doesn't mean he watches the entire thing.”
“I doubt he watches every act. Just because he's a producer on the show doesn't mean he watches the entire thing.”
He may not have watched the whole thing, no. But he's a producer of she show...he would have watched each act and would have known who was appearing on it.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“What?
I watched the show on Saturday and she wasn't shaking or bulging at all. And yes, I was definitely watching in HD.”
“What?
I watched the show on Saturday and she wasn't shaking or bulging at all. And yes, I was definitely watching in HD.”
And yet you couldn't see (and still deny) that the dog was clearly wearing a false nose/mouth.
Originally Posted by Dalekbuster523:
“The teeth don't look plastic at all to me. The dog's mouth looks just as real as mine (which is real).”
“The teeth don't look plastic at all to me. The dog's mouth looks just as real as mine (which is real).”
Get yourself off to Specsavers pronto - hope you don't drive
Originally Posted by Master Ozzy:
“Really? I think it's a huge stretch of logic. There are many dancing dogs but I can't think of a single talking dog who can open and close his mouth at the exact time its owner speaks and there's online videos showing any dog doing it either. It's absolutely ridiculous to think it could happen and I do wonder about the sanity of the viewers who watched it and actually believed it was real/believe a sog could be traiend to do it.
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“Really? I think it's a huge stretch of logic. There are many dancing dogs but I can't think of a single talking dog who can open and close his mouth at the exact time its owner speaks and there's online videos showing any dog doing it either. It's absolutely ridiculous to think it could happen and I do wonder about the sanity of the viewers who watched it and actually believed it was real/believe a sog could be traiend to do it.
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Considering dancing requires dogs to stand up on their back legs, I would have thought it would be harder for a dog to dance.
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“He may not have watched the whole thing, no. But he's a producer of she show...he would have watched each act and would have known who was appearing on it”
“He may not have watched the whole thing, no. But he's a producer of she show...he would have watched each act and would have known who was appearing on it”
I very much doubt it. He's a very busy man, who (let's not forget) is a father now.
Originally Posted by danielleh:
“And yet you couldn't see (and still deny) that the dog was clearly wearing a false nose/mouth.”
“And yet you couldn't see (and still deny) that the dog was clearly wearing a false nose/mouth.”
As I said: seeing is believing.
Originally Posted by daisydee:
“Get yourself off to Specsavers pronto - hope you don't drive”
“Get yourself off to Specsavers pronto - hope you don't drive
”
Specsavers is rubbish. I'm more of a Pagan & McQuades guy.
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