Do you think Netflix should try to pick up Torchwood for more seasons, i think they could do a much better job that Starz did

I would guess by now the moment for that sort of thing has well and truly passed. Had it just finished on tv in the last couple of years maybe, but very doubtful now. Not impossible, just unlikely.

Although I don't think it will happen, I'd be all for any return of Torchwood as long as it was done right, which to me, is jack and gwen, back in wales in a new hub (with possible new recruits but without the american guy from miracle day) , in a series written by British writers and absolutely no american involvement. Basically I'd just wan't them to carry on as they did with series 1-3 and not acknowledge miracle day at all.

Same here

I think 8 episodes be enough as there were so much filler in MD.

What a great idea, not sure if the rights are with the BBC or RTD. but netflix would be perfect.

That's what i was thinking too after seeing what they've done with Daredevil i think they should at least give it a shot

I think the ship has sailed for Torchwood on telly - but a Netflix sort of series would be good, if possible. RTD has said before that he has one final Torchwood story to tell, focusing on Gwen. I'd be interested to see what said story is.

I'm very negative about Torchwood creatively so, for me, I'd say don't bother bringing it back in any medium. Whether Netflix should pick it up for the fans I don't feel qualified to comment other than saying something sarcastic about it not possibly being worse than Series 1.

Sadly, they made too much of a mess of the show to be able to pick it back up again, by discontinuing the S1 & S2 format, blowing up the Torchwood Hub and moving to America. To me, that translates as "f**k the system".

They could always just pick up after CoE and pretend the whole MD mess never happened

Torchwood was mediocre as mediocre can be for two seasons. Then amazingly it hit such an incredible peak with COE that it for a wonderful moment it was the best thing on television. Then it sank lower than ever before with the risible Miracle Day. Beyond the rather bizarre cult following it still inspires on the convention circuit I can't see any need for it to return. The TV landscape has changed even in the years it's been offscreen. Netflix is making shows like Daredevil and Better Call Saul. Torchwood suddenly seems very small scale and quaint in such company. And honestly take COE out of the equation and it would have been long forgotten. And even that was less to do with the concept and more to do with the fact RTD on a good day is one of the finest writers on earth and Captain Jack is just a splendid character. The rest was and is rubbish.

It's had it's day. Leave it be, I can only see more series tarnishing it further.

So, Gwen wakes up from a nightmare to find Jack and Ianto coming out of the shower...

no because Ianto died in series 3, he only said ignore Miracle Day

I've started watching DW recently. I don't know why Netflix only have half of series 7 though. I want to see the other half.

I have recently finished a rewatch of the complete run. Enjoyed season 1 to 2 but killing off owen and tosh in the last episode of s2 and then lanto in children of earth killed the series for me. Not sure why rtd did it. A question.
Were ricky and martha down to replace owen and tosh in s3 but when it was reduced to just 5 episodes decided they were not needed? As it was children of earth felt a natural conclusion to the series. Miracle day was a mess though, a completely different show to when it was at its peak in s2.

To my knowledge it was meant to send a shockwave through the show and remind you that nobody was safe. This wasn't Doctor Who or The Sarah Jane Adventures where a character death is actually a 'stranded on a parallel world' scenario or a 'memory wipe'. Death is death, and after two years they killed off both Owen and Toshiko in quick succession. To be fair though, Owen had died half a series earlier and was on borrowed time anyway. It was simply through competent writing that they made it just as impactful if not more so the second time around.

With Ianto, again it makes logical sense. The threat faced in Children of Earth was meant to be the biggest ever for Torchwood - it was an international event spanning five days which is arguably more ambitious than any of the invasions that RTD wrote for Doctor Who without resorting to some kind of reset button. As such, there has to be consequences for the good guys as well - and killing off one of your leading trio is a great way of showing that. The fact that people get angry and upset simply tells the writer that they've done their job well... they've evoked a reaction from you that proves you care about the characters they create


They were indeed intended to join Torchwood, with Journey's End setting that up at the end of Doctor Who: Series 4. But neither actor was available for filming at the time, so RTD had to drastically rewrite certain elements he'd had in mind. To my knowledge Martha's role ultimately went to the character that was Lois Habiba. As much as I like Martha (and I'll admit I cannot stand Mickey) I'm kind of glad she didn't come back to Torchwood for Children of Earth. I feel the characters created for it are very distinct and fleshed out, and that part of the strength and success of Children of Earth was down to its own merits, rather than having to borrow from Doctor Who very much. It was an outcome that I personally feel paid off.


In many ways I feel you could class Miracle Day as a spin-off of Torchwood (I know, a spin-off of a spin-off). It only heavily features Jack and Gwen who both survive the series (and the former has excruciatingly little to do throughout) and was so seperate in tone and approach that it barely registers as Torchwood. The series 'borrows' a little from filming in Wales but is predominantly a US creation that inherited a few characters and references to the show.
On top of that, Miracle Day had a couple of instances where it broke the continuity with Doctor Who (whereas previously the issue of continuity had been handled fantastically), it basically rewrote Jack's lazarus capabilities, it didn't actually feature the Torchwood Institute at all but merely some characters who had been involved in it, and in turn hasn't at all been referenced by Doctor Who (even Children of Earth resulted in a glum looking Jack at the end of The End of Time: Part Two).

You could really pass off Miracle Day as a non-canon spin-off if you wanted, or failing that simply a canon spin-off that the vast majority of people are more than happy to disregard entirely. It was a complete and utter misstep that killed Torchwood just like that.

With all of that being said though, unless you got RTD back on board for it which in itself would generate a lot of interest from fans, I think the proverbial ship has sailed and Torchwood is best remembered for its first three series. Both it and The Sarah Jane Adventures are very much (successful) products of the RTD Era. I don't feel that the Moffat Era will have or has warranted a spin-off as none of its characters or themes are distinctive enough (Paternosters included), except perhaps UNIT which could perhaps work in an Agents of SHIELD kind of way, but might not have the mass appeal. Far from being sceptical though, I think the time will be right to have another spin-off some time in the future again. I guess it all depends on what subsequent show runners bring to the table.

I think Torchwood is probably best forgotten by all...seriously.

I've mentioned this a few times and think it would be a GREAT idea! Torchwood can exist in different formats, no problem. I would love to see it back for a run as a Netflix co-production.